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PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
But it is very plausible that KVA being a Grad Asst at MSU has zero to do with Stitt or how he feels about Stitt, which is how fanofzoo is portraying it. It could be 100% about his relationship with TG. I think the point is, fanofzoo automatically puts everything on the shoulders of Stitt whether it is actually factual or not, and on this subject, he has really provided nothing that would suggest this move by KVA is a Stitt issue.

I agree with you. However, I know more about the subject than I will post. Don't think you should conclude that the original poster doesn't know more too. He may, or may not.

PR, not trying to argue what people do or don't know. But why make a post like the OP without providing anything substantive? Provide a little more than "because of our "coach" and how he works".

Don't know. Maybe it's just his view or assumption. Maybe he's speculating. Maybe he knows more than what he said, but doesn't want to say it. Maybe he talked to KVA when he was in town, Orto someone who had talked directly to KVA. While it's fine to ask questions or why he thinks or said what he did, but, if one doesn't know, I don't think it's right to tell the OP that he's wrong. I'm not saying you did this. I didn't re-read the posts. My comment is more of a general comment, i.e. that I see posters who appear not to know what they are talking about, challenging posters who either know or may know what they are talking about.
Well until said poster can prove they know what they're talking about I'll fee free to challenge away. Because until then it's pure conjecture and fear mongering.


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AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
I agree with you. However, I know more about the subject than I will post. Don't think you should conclude that the original poster doesn't know more too. He may, or may not.

PR, not trying to argue what people do or don't know. But why make a post like the OP without providing anything substantive? Provide a little more than "because of our "coach" and how he works".

Don't know. Maybe it's just his view or assumption. Maybe he's speculating. Maybe he knows more than what he said, but doesn't want to say it. Maybe he talked to KVA when he was in town, Orto someone who had talked directly to KVA. While it's fine to ask questions or why he thinks or said what he did, but, if one doesn't know, I don't think it's right to tell the OP that he's wrong. I'm not saying you did this. I didn't re-read the posts. My comment is more of a general comment, i.e. that I see posters who appear not to know what they are talking about, challenging posters who either know or may know what they are talking about.
Well until said poster can prove they know what they're talking about I'll fee free to challenge away. Because until then it's pure conjecture and fear mongering.


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I was leaning more towards bias by the OP. But I am open to hear his substantiated argument...if he wants to provide one.
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
I agree with you. However, I know more about the subject than I will post. Don't think you should conclude that the original poster doesn't know more too. He may, or may not.

PR, not trying to argue what people do or don't know. But why make a post like the OP without providing anything substantive? Provide a little more than "because of our "coach" and how he works".

Don't know. Maybe it's just his view or assumption. Maybe he's speculating. Maybe he knows more than what he said, but doesn't want to say it. Maybe he talked to KVA when he was in town, Orto someone who had talked directly to KVA. While it's fine to ask questions or why he thinks or said what he did, but, if one doesn't know, I don't think it's right to tell the OP that he's wrong. I'm not saying you did this. I didn't re-read the posts. My comment is more of a general comment, i.e. that I see posters who appear not to know what they are talking about, challenging posters who either know or may know what they are talking about.
Well until said poster can prove they know what they're talking about I'll fee free to challenge away. Because until then it's pure conjecture and fear mongering.


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The OP doesn't have to prove anything, just like you don't have to "prove" you know he's wrong to challenge him. Challenging him is one thing. Saying he's wrong is another thing, because I can't imagine you could know he's wrong. And, as is sometimes the case, I have some additional info on this one.
 
I saw one of your top LB's eating lunch in Bozeman this weekend...He was wearing all griz stuff, but you could tell by the way he was drinking his Ice Tea, that he REALLY hated Stitt...
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PR, not trying to argue what people do or don't know. But why make a post like the OP without providing anything substantive? Provide a little more than "because of our "coach" and how he works".

Don't know. Maybe it's just his view or assumption. Maybe he's speculating. Maybe he knows more than what he said, but doesn't want to say it. Maybe he talked to KVA when he was in town, Orto someone who had talked directly to KVA. While it's fine to ask questions or why he thinks or said what he did, but, if one doesn't know, I don't think it's right to tell the OP that he's wrong. I'm not saying you did this. I didn't re-read the posts. My comment is more of a general comment, i.e. that I see posters who appear not to know what they are talking about, challenging posters who either know or may know what they are talking about.
Well until said poster can prove they know what they're talking about I'll fee free to challenge away. Because until then it's pure conjecture and fear mongering.


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I was leaning more towards bias by the OP. But I am open to hear his substantiated argument...if he wants to provide one.

AZ apparently thinks you need to prove the bias.
 
SACCAT66 said:
I saw one of your top LB's eating lunch in Bozeman this weekend...He was wearing all griz stuff, but you could tell by the way he was drinking his Ice Tea, that he REALLY hated Stitt...

I noticed the same thing in Missoula, but it was a group of Griz fans drinking beer.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
There are 2 separate but possibly related questions. Is KVA going to be a grad asst at MSU? Answer, yes. Does KVA like Stitt, or think Stitt is a good coach? That is a different question.

But it is very plausible that KVA being a Grad Asst at MSU has zero to do with Stitt or how he feels about Stitt, which is how fanofzoo is portraying it. It could be 100% about his relationship with TG. I think the point is, fanofzoo automatically puts everything on the shoulders of Stitt whether it is actually factual or not, and on this subject, he has really provided nothing that would suggest this move by KVA is a Stitt issue.

I agree with you. However, I know more about the subject than I will post. Don't think you should conclude that the original poster doesn't know more too. He may, or may not.

PR, not trying to argue what people do or don't know. But why make a post like the OP without providing anything substantive? Provide a little more than "because of our "coach" and how he works".

Wow. My original statement was to lament the fact that another GRIZ is being used by the kitties, anywhere else would be fine but there! Come on it's the f#cking cats ! How this all happened is the theory of cause and effect. Sorry but does the buck stop with Stitt or does he need more time.

I hope that I am really wrong on this.
 
fanofzoo said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
But it is very plausible that KVA being a Grad Asst at MSU has zero to do with Stitt or how he feels about Stitt, which is how fanofzoo is portraying it. It could be 100% about his relationship with TG. I think the point is, fanofzoo automatically puts everything on the shoulders of Stitt whether it is actually factual or not, and on this subject, he has really provided nothing that would suggest this move by KVA is a Stitt issue.

I agree with you. However, I know more about the subject than I will post. Don't think you should conclude that the original poster doesn't know more too. He may, or may not.

PR, not trying to argue what people do or don't know. But why make a post like the OP without providing anything substantive? Provide a little more than "because of our "coach" and how he works".

Wow. My original statement was to lament the fact that another GRIZ is being used by the kitties, anywhere else would be fine but there! Come on it's the f#cking cats ! How this all happened is the theory of cause and effect. Sorry but does the buck stop with Stitt or does he need more time.

I hope that I am really wrong on this.

And I still think your initial argument is overblown and much of your post is based on bias. I also say "so what" to KVA joining the Cats coaching staff as a GA. I don't see the issue with a guy getting a chance from a former coach to further his resume...even if it is the Cats. Does KVA like or dislike Stitt? My opinion in this case, I don't think it really matters because I don't think it would necessarily have had much impact on his final decision. I believe his feelings about TG is what mattered. I also don't know the answer to this, but was KVA offered a GA opportunity with the Griz that he turned down?
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
fanofzoo said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
I agree with you. However, I know more about the subject than I will post. Don't think you should conclude that the original poster doesn't know more too. He may, or may not.

PR, not trying to argue what people do or don't know. But why make a post like the OP without providing anything substantive? Provide a little more than "because of our "coach" and how he works".

Wow. My original statement was to lament the fact that another GRIZ is being used by the kitties, anywhere else would be fine but there! Come on it's the f#cking cats ! How this all happened is the theory of cause and effect. Sorry but does the buck stop with Stitt or does he need more time.

I hope that I am really wrong on this.

And I still think your initial argument is overblown and much of your post is based on bias. I also say "so what" to KVA joining the Cats coaching staff as a GA. I don't see the issue with a guy getting a chance from a former coach to further his resume...even if it is the Cats. Does KVA like or dislike Stitt? My opinion in this case, I don't think it really matters because I don't think it would necessarily have had much impact on his final decision. I believe his feelings about TG is what mattered. I also don't know the answer to this, but was KVA offered a GA opportunity with the Griz that he turned down?

This x 1,000.

It sucks to see him go be a bobcat, but good for him for getting a chance to further his coaching career.

The point was, even if he absolutely hated Stitt and spat in his face if he was offered a grad position here, choosing to be a bobcat rather than work for Stitt, what would that have to do with this year's team?

The answer is nothing.
 
Ripples are now rippling through Big Sky country due to an appalling lack of fealty amongst former football players. It is said by those desperately hoping it is not so that former players from one Big Sky school sometimes end up being employed by other Big Sky schools. The erstwhile coaches of any and all of those fickle renegades are now under the microscope and in danger of losing their jobs … as well they should be.

As for me, newly mellowed in my dotage, I would run around a wall for Bob Stitt, or any BS coach … or even go under or over a wall if an adequate tunnel or stairway were built with a gently sloping incline on both sides.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
fanofzoo said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
I agree with you. However, I know more about the subject than I will post. Don't think you should conclude that the original poster doesn't know more too. He may, or may not.

PR, not trying to argue what people do or don't know. But why make a post like the OP without providing anything substantive? Provide a little more than "because of our "coach" and how he works".

Wow. My original statement was to lament the fact that another GRIZ is being used by the kitties, anywhere else would be fine but there! Come on it's the f#cking cats ! How this all happened is the theory of cause and effect. Sorry but does the buck stop with Stitt or does he need more time.

I hope that I am really wrong on this.

And I still think your initial argument is overblown and much of your post is based on bias. I also say "so what" to KVA joining the Cats coaching staff as a GA. I don't see the issue with a guy getting a chance from a former coach to further his resume...even if it is the Cats. Does KVA like or dislike Stitt? My opinion in this case, I don't think it really matters because I don't think it would necessarily have had much impact on his final decision. I believe his feelings about TG is what mattered. I also don't know the answer to this, but was KVA offered a GA opportunity with the Griz that he turned down?

Of course it is, that's why we post here. Hell if I was as smart as everyone else I wouldn't be here.
 
fanofzoo said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
fanofzoo said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PR, not trying to argue what people do or don't know. But why make a post like the OP without providing anything substantive? Provide a little more than "because of our "coach" and how he works".

Wow. My original statement was to lament the fact that another GRIZ is being used by the kitties, anywhere else would be fine but there! Come on it's the f#cking cats ! How this all happened is the theory of cause and effect. Sorry but does the buck stop with Stitt or does he need more time.

I hope that I am really wrong on this.

And I still think your initial argument is overblown and much of your post is based on bias. I also say "so what" to KVA joining the Cats coaching staff as a GA. I don't see the issue with a guy getting a chance from a former coach to further his resume...even if it is the Cats. Does KVA like or dislike Stitt? My opinion in this case, I don't think it really matters because I don't think it would necessarily have had much impact on his final decision. I believe his feelings about TG is what mattered. I also don't know the answer to this, but was KVA offered a GA opportunity with the Griz that he turned down?

Of course it is, that's why we post here. Hell if I was as smart as everyone else I wouldn't be here.

So it would seem you are past denial, maybe even past anger...on to bargaining I guess.
 
reinell30 said:
kemajic said:
reinell30 said:
I think with Gregorak as the defensive coordinator, KVA no threat....
I'm wondering where you were on 11/19 last year.


I was sitting in Griz stadium watching the Griz lose to the Cats and Ty Gregorac. Ty played Stitt like a book.
How does one "play a book"?


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fanofzoo said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
But it is very plausible that KVA being a Grad Asst at MSU has zero to do with Stitt or how he feels about Stitt, which is how fanofzoo is portraying it. It could be 100% about his relationship with TG. I think the point is, fanofzoo automatically puts everything on the shoulders of Stitt whether it is actually factual or not, and on this subject, he has really provided nothing that would suggest this move by KVA is a Stitt issue.

I agree with you. However, I know more about the subject than I will post. Don't think you should conclude that the original poster doesn't know more too. He may, or may not.

PR, not trying to argue what people do or don't know. But why make a post like the OP without providing anything substantive? Provide a little more than "because of our "coach" and how he works".

Wow. My original statement was to lament the fact that another GRIZ is being used by the kitties, anywhere else would be fine but there! Come on it's the f#cking cats ! How this all happened is the theory of cause and effect. Sorry but does the buck stop with Stitt or does he need more time.

I hope that I am really wrong on this.

So, the way I'm reading this is, the Stitt should be fired because KVA got a grad assistant job at MSU??? That is really a valid reason to fire a football coach??? I guess Bobby should have been fired then for bringing a former Bobcat coach to his staff??? It's unacceptable right? Or since that former Cat coach came to BH's staff should MSU have dropped football. Because it's obviously a sign that MSU must have had a huge problem for one of their former assistants to one day be the head coach of the Grizzlies.

In all seriousness though, I have interviewed KVA a couple of times. He doesn't seem like the type of person who would take a job "out of spite". Even if he hates Stitt, which obviously some people are at the very least, alluding too, I'm going to believe KVA is a really mature, level-headed guy, like he seemed when I met him, and he didn't just hope that Ty would have a job for him so he could throw it in UM's face. I guess, if I'm proven wrong by that, and one day, KVA comes out and says "I could have been a grad asst. anywhere I wanted but I specifically chose MSU because I absolutely despised Bob Stitt, and I turned down an Alabama grad asst. job in order to stick it to Stitt", well then, I honestly still won't blame Stitt. Instead, I'll be disappointed that KVA isn't the mature young man and leader that I thought he was. Because that would be a really immature reason to take a job. But until he tells us that's why he's at MSU, I'll go on believing KVA took a grad asst. job at MSU because Ty had one for him, and because the guy wants to start his coaching career.
 
The_Real_Chief said:
PlayerRep said:
KVA to be grad asst at MSU. He was in Missoula recently.

Do we know his exact where abouts now? Somewhere between Missoula and Bozeman? My source Harold at the townpump in Drummond saw him 30 minutes ago

Harold must be lost, as there is no Town Pump in Drummond. :lol:
 
Holy shit, what a game of telephone.

What I tried to say was it's a shame when a GRIZ works for the cats (FTC), any other school fine. Do I want KVA to have a brilliant career, hell yes (owes me 20). Just wish it could have any other team.
Now second part. Yes, you can see my displeasure with Stitt but that's just me and my opinion, kind of like BH not staying in kitty town.
Do I think KVA hates Stitt...I have no fuckin' idea.
 
brewskis said:
reinell30 said:
kemajic said:
reinell30 said:
I think with Gregorak as the defensive coordinator, KVA no threat....
I'm wondering where you were on 11/19 last year.


I was sitting in Griz stadium watching the Griz lose to the Cats and Ty Gregorac. Ty played Stitt like a book.
How does one "play a book"?


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Insert any word you would like for "book."
 
reinell30 said:
brewskis said:
reinell30 said:
kemajic said:
I'm wondering where you were on 11/19 last year.


I was sitting in Griz stadium watching the Griz lose to the Cats and Ty Gregorac. Ty played Stitt like a book.
How does one "play a book"?


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Insert any word you would like for "book."
I choose book.


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