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Sarkisian Sues USC

IdaGriz01 said:
PlayerRep said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
First if all he's a pussy for using a disability to extort money from a state institution. Second I am sure he never disclosed this to the University before he was hired so how can they (they shouldn't have to) "accommodate him".
Third, yes anyone using addiction as a crutch is BS

Sarkisian needs his ass kicked for being a litigious douchebag.
Employees don't have to discuss disabilities to employees prior to employment.
If I'm not mistaken, the employment form for many companies asks the applicant to voluntarily reveal any disabilities they might have. But, so far as I know, there are no legal consequences if the applicant chooses to voluntarily not say they are addicted to chocolate, or pedophilia, or whatever.

Beyond that, I'm pretty sure that employers that deal mainly with the Federal government, or have Federal obligations, are discouraged from asking questions about specific disabilities. (Long story, with nothing to do about football.)

An employer cannot ask if someone has a disability or even fish around with indirect questions prior to making an offer. From the EEOC website:

"Discussing Disability with the Potential Employer

The ADA prohibits employers from asking questions that are likely to reveal the existence of a disability before making a job offer (i.e., the pre-offer period). This prohibition covers written questionnaires and inquiries made during interviews, as well as medical examinations. However, such questions and medical examinations are permitted after extending a job offer but before the individual begins work (i.e., the post-offer period).

9. What are examples of questions that an employer cannot ask on an application or during an interview?

Examples of prohibited questions during the pre-offer period include:

Do you have a heart condition? Do you have asthma or any other difficulties breathing?
Do you have a disability which would interfere with your ability to perform the job?
How many days were you sick last year?
Have you ever filed for workers' compensation? Have you ever been injured on the job?
Have you ever been treated for mental health problems?
What prescription drugs are you currently taking?
10. May the employer ask me these questions after making a job offer?

Yes. An employer can ask all of the questions listed in Question 9, and others that are likely to reveal the existence of a disability, after it extends you a job offer as long as it asks the same questions of other applicants offered the same type of job. In other words, an employer cannot ask such questions only of those who have obvious disabilities. Similarly, an employer may require a medical examination after making a job offer as long as it requires the same medical examination of other applicants offered the same type of job."
 
MrTitleist said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
First if all he's a pussy for using a disability to extort money from a state institution. Second I am sure he never disclosed this to the University before he was hired so how can they (they shouldn't have to) "accommodate him".
Third, yes anyone using addiction as a crutch is BS

Sarkisian needs his ass kicked for being a litigious douchebag.

USC is private, lol.

At least, Alpha is keeping up his streak for being wrong. Thinks USC is a public school. Doesn't know what qualifies as a disability.
 
If USC has to pay out, they should turn around and sue UW for knowingly passing on this guy to some one else, knowing he was a substance abuser. Personally, I feel USC gave him a chance. He hit a bottom, and now should simply turn to AA and begin the First Step...he seems to have amends to make before he can fully recover. He is in a position to become a force for something greater than football. I have a feeling there are many football and basketball coaches out there with the same "hidden" illness.
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
BWahlberg said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Third, yes anyone using addiction as a crutch is BS

Then you don't understand addictions. It's not BS and it's not controllable.
Don't drink, don't shoot up, don't gamble.

Period

It is a choice to take those actions

Not with addictions it isn't. Shows a lack of understanding of a serious issue

BTW I'm not saying Sark is right or wrong in this lawsuit, but calling an issue with addiction "BS" is near an insult to people that battle with addictions
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Being drunk is not a disability.

But being an alcoholic is. From the ada.gov website:

"Q. Are alcoholics covered by the ADA?

A. Yes. While a current illegal user of drugs is not protected by the ADA if an employer acts on the basis of such use, a person who currently uses alcohol is not automatically denied protection. An alcoholic is a person with a disability and is protected by the ADA if s/he is qualified to perform the essential functions of the job. An employer may be required to provide an accommodation to an alcoholic. However, an employer can discipline, discharge or deny employment to an alcoholic whose use of alcohol adversely affects job performance or conduct. An employer also may prohibit the use of alcohol in the workplace and can require that employees not be under the influence of alcohol."
 
BWahlberg said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Third, yes anyone using addiction as a crutch is BS
Then you don't understand addictions. It's not BS and it's not controllable.
My neurosurgeon explained to me that there are "non-addictive" personalities at one end, "addictive" personalities at the other end who are at a very high risk, and most are somewhere on a bell-shaped curve in the middle. Omar Sharief recently died, stone cold broke from a life-long gambling addiction.
 
BWahlberg said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
BWahlberg said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Third, yes anyone using addiction as a crutch is BS

Then you don't understand addictions. It's not BS and it's not controllable.
Don't drink, don't shoot up, don't gamble.

Period

It is a choice to take those actions

Not with addictions it isn't. Shows a lack of understanding of a serious issue

BTW I'm not saying Sark is right or wrong in this lawsuit, but calling an issue with addiction "BS" is near an insult to people that battle with addictions

That's the mantra of people after they fail treatment. Every alcoholic I know who is sober says sobriety is a choice. Difficult, but a choice.

The biggest problem with addicts, after the carnage they cause to others while under the influence, is they are deniers, liars and cheats. If today's reports are true, USC may have a better defense than I originally thought.
 
Agreed, it's as simple as never doing it again.

Like falling off a cliff or staying under water for a half hour. If you don't do it you are better off.

Anything else is an excuse, crutch or sham and the lawyers and the left need victims to be relevant.
 
PlayerRep said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Being drunk is not a disability.

But being an alcoholic is. From the ada.gov website:

"Q. Are alcoholics covered by the ADA?

A. Yes. While a current illegal user of drugs is not protected by the ADA if an employer acts on the basis of such use, a person who currently uses alcohol is not automatically denied protection. An alcoholic is a person with a disability and is protected by the ADA if s/he is qualified to perform the essential functions of the job. An employer may be required to provide an accommodation to an alcoholic. However, an employer can discipline, discharge or deny employment to an alcoholic whose use of alcohol adversely affects job performance or conduct. An employer also may prohibit the use of alcohol in the workplace and can require that employees not be under the influence of alcohol."

Yup. Agreed.
 
BWahlberg said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Agreed, it's as simple as never doing it again.
.

So far from the truth...

Only for weak people who never developed fortitude or resolve, who always had someone else there to save them or pick pieces up when they got in a jam, and who pretty much refused to accept reality at any time in their lives. Families firmly entrenched in the "excuser" crowd, its a "disease" crowd, we have to be "supportive" crowd, end up with children, spouses, brothers and sisters dead before they turn 50, that fail at rehab half a dozen times, because the abuser is never held accountable for their own failings by those who "care." Compare the failure rate of rehab to weather reporting. You'll have a new found respect for your local weather-casters.
 
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