San Diego State to PAC-12!

[argh!]

Good post. Want to win the conference, then beat every team on the schedule no matter who or where. We used to be a fan base that didn't make excuses. Now...it's a new one every friggin week.

People tend to forget we had the easy schedule with Stitt and struggled to tie our shoelaces.

which teams did the griz play that were bad? what about the other teams? any of them good/credible? you seem to have a handle on the specifics regarding stitt's schedule, and all the opponents' capabilities, so i trust you will be able to do a year by year analysis. thanks.

 

[Hoops watcher]

Remember back in the good ol’ days when conferences had 9, so they could play an 8-game conference schedule and 3 OOC games ever year and have played everyone in the conference?

Yeah….those were the days.

Wow! Someone older than me. Hasn't been the Big 9 (now called and famous as the Big 10) since 1949

The Pac-12 was the Pac-8 and Pac-10 but never the Pac-9 as far as I remember

Used to be the Big 8 and the Texas schools were in the Southwest with Arkansas. Fun fact I never knew: Drake, Washington U in St. Louis and freaking Grinnell were in the Big 8 early on in the last century.

 

[dupuyer griz]

People tend to forget we had the easy schedule with Stitt and struggled to tie our shoelaces.

which teams did the griz play that were bad? what about the other teams? any of them good/credible? you seem to have a handle on the specifics regarding stitt's schedule, and all the opponents' capabilities, so i trust you will be able to do a year by year analysis. thanks.

2016
Saint Francis W
Northern Iowa W
Cal Poly L 7-5
Southern Utah W 6-5
Mississippi Valley W
Sac state W 2-9
NAU L 5-6
EWU L 12-2
ISU W 2-9
No Colorado L 6-5
Msu L 4-7

The only good team we played that year was Eastern Washington. We absolutely shit down our leg with the opportunity to walk to 10-1/11-0. We didn’t play North Dakota and we didn’t play Weber, 2 of the 3 best teams in the conference. Cal Poly who we absolutely gave it away against was 7-4 and lost first round. I remember not having playoff football quite clearly because of Stitts horseshit. You don’t have to like it but the facts exist. As the only proof I need, I would like to submit that we lost to Northern Colorado.

 

[argh!]

which teams did the griz play that were bad? what about the other teams? any of them good/credible? you seem to have a handle on the specifics regarding stitt's schedule, and all the opponents' capabilities, so i trust you will be able to do a year by year analysis. thanks.

2016
Saint Francis W
Northern Iowa W
Cal Poly L 7-5
Southern Utah W 6-5
Mississippi Valley W
Sac state W 2-9
NAU L 5-6
EWU L 12-2
ISU W 2-9
No Colorado L 6-5
Msu L 4-7

The only good team we played that year was Eastern Washington. We absolutely shit down our leg with the opportunity to walk to 10-1/11-0. We didn’t play North Dakota and we didn’t play Weber, 2 of the 3 best teams in the conference. Cal Poly who we absolutely gave it away against was 7-4 and lost first round. I remember not having playoff football quite clearly because of Stitts horseshit. You don’t have to like it but the facts exist. As the only proof I need, I would like to submit that we lost to Northern Colorado.

that doesn't look like the greatest schedule, for sure. one tidbit you, and pretty much everybody here, has wrong is that i never said stitt was a good coach, or that he shouldn't be fired. i thought the way the whole thing was handled was douche bag-ish, though.

 

[dupuyer griz]

2016
Saint Francis W
Northern Iowa W
Cal Poly L 7-5
Southern Utah W 6-5
Mississippi Valley W
Sac state W 2-9
NAU L 5-6
EWU L 12-2
ISU W 2-9
No Colorado L 6-5
Msu L 4-7

The only good team we played that year was Eastern Washington. We absolutely shit down our leg with the opportunity to walk to 10-1/11-0. We didn’t play North Dakota and we didn’t play Weber, 2 of the 3 best teams in the conference. Cal Poly who we absolutely gave it away against was 7-4 and lost first round. I remember not having playoff football quite clearly because of Stitts horseshit. You don’t have to like it but the facts exist. As the only proof I need, I would like to submit that we lost to Northern Colorado.

that doesn't look like the greatest schedule, for sure. one tidbit you, and pretty much everybody here, has wrong is that i never said stitt was a good coach, or that he shouldn't be fired. i thought the way the whole thing was handled was douche bag-ish, though.

I think you’re confusing me agreeing with your statement with me disagreeing. I had to go back and check what was written. I absolutely was agreeing with your initial statement, not cornering you on it.

 

[AZGrizFan]

which teams did the griz play that were bad? what about the other teams? any of them good/credible? you seem to have a handle on the specifics regarding stitt's schedule, and all the opponents' capabilities, so i trust you will be able to do a year by year analysis. thanks.

2016
Saint Francis W
Northern Iowa W
Cal Poly L 7-5
Southern Utah W 6-5
Mississippi Valley W
Sac state W 2-9
NAU L 5-6
EWU L 12-2
ISU W 2-9
No Colorado L 6-5
Msu L 4-7

The only good team we played that year was Eastern Washington. We absolutely shit down our leg with the opportunity to walk to 10-1/11-0. We didn’t play North Dakota and we didn’t play Weber, 2 of the 3 best teams in the conference. Cal Poly who we absolutely gave it away against was 7-4 and lost first round. I remember not having playoff football quite clearly because of Stitts horseshit. You don’t have to like it but the facts exist. As the only proof I need, I would like to submit that we lost to Northern Colorado.

those were the days though, huh? 68-7 against Sac? Have we beaten them since?

 

[dupuyer griz]

2016
Saint Francis W
Northern Iowa W
Cal Poly L 7-5
Southern Utah W 6-5
Mississippi Valley W
Sac state W 2-9
NAU L 5-6
EWU L 12-2
ISU W 2-9
No Colorado L 6-5
Msu L 4-7

The only good team we played that year was Eastern Washington. We absolutely shit down our leg with the opportunity to walk to 10-1/11-0. We didn’t play North Dakota and we didn’t play Weber, 2 of the 3 best teams in the conference. Cal Poly who we absolutely gave it away against was 7-4 and lost first round. I remember not having playoff football quite clearly because of Stitts horseshit. You don’t have to like it but the facts exist. As the only proof I need, I would like to submit that we lost to Northern Colorado.

those were the days though, huh? 68-7 against Sac? Have we beaten them since?

They’re coming back soon, that coach won’t be there long.

 

[EW406]

Wow! Someone older than me. Hasn't been the Big 9 (now called and famous as the Big 10) since 1949

The Pac-12 was the Pac-8 and Pac-10 but never the Pac-9 as far as I remember

Used to be the Big 8 and the Texas schools were in the Southwest with Arkansas. Fun fact I never knew: Drake, Washington U in St. Louis and freaking Grinnell were in the Big 8 early on in the last century.

Grinnell has one of the most exciting basketball offensive systems in the country, but little defense. So exactly like Big 12 Football right now.

 

[mcg]

Here's a good read about the PAC 12 and related financial challenges:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/sports/ncaafootball/ucla-football-game-attendance.html

 

[kemajic]

Here's a good read about the PAC 12 and related financial challenges:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/sports/ncaafootball/ucla-football-game-attendance.html

Paywall. Can you post the article? Thanks.

 

[kemajic]

Here's a good read about the PAC 12 and related financial challenges:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/sports/ncaafootball/ucla-football-game-attendance.html

Paywall. Can you post the article? Thanks.

Got in another way.

https://tinyurl.com/ycxr3uuv

 

[mcg]

Paywall. Can you post the article? Thanks.

Got in another way.

https://tinyurl.com/ycxr3uuv

Thank you.

 

[AZDoc]

Yep, all the market. They haven't been as good this year, but the last handful of years they have been decent. I think they were thinking about riding the current wave, but it hasn't been a great season this year.

What comes to mind when SMU is mentioned? For me, it's DEATH PENALTY.

For you youngsters:
What violations did SMU commit?
The most serious violation was the maintenance of a slush fund used for "under the table" payments to players from the mid-1970s through 1986. This culminated in the NCAA handing down the so-called "death penalty" by canceling SMU's entire 1987 schedule.

Yep…and that’s how it’s done now :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Wolf777]

What comes to mind when SMU is mentioned? For me, it's DEATH PENALTY.

For you youngsters:
What violations did SMU commit?
The most serious violation was the maintenance of a slush fund used for "under the table" payments to players from the mid-1970s through 1986. This culminated in the NCAA handing down the so-called "death penalty" by canceling SMU's entire 1987 schedule.

Yep…and that’s how it’s done now :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lol. It’s how it’s done now, but it’s more about how the NCAA enforces penalties. A mid major school violates a rule and they get nailed to the wall. A brand name university does it and either gets a slap on the wrist or it gets swept under the rug. Hypocrisy at its finest. And now the NCAA is going to die by the system they created.

 

[Grizbeer]

Lol. When they got the death penalty SMU was the brand name in college football. What the didn’t have was a conference that would keep their mouth shut. Same issue that plagued the PCC and still the PAC 12.

When the old SWC broke up and split into the sec they got on thing straight: snitches get stitches. Sure Cam Newton’s dad got a million dollar offer but Cam turned it down for the academic offerings of Auburn. But all Reggie has is a bacon burger? Total bullshit.

 

[Pounder]

The UC Board of Regents meets next week, and might deny UCLA’s move, or at least throw an anchor into the mix.

While UCLA has their debt, Cal-Berkeley retrofitted their stadium 11 years ago. More luxury options, reduced overall capacity (a recurring theme all over CFB, Oregon State took down the old grandstand the start of this year and the replacement will have 7,000 less seats). Cal’s retrofit costs $321 million, their attendance is nothing to write home about. So they’re carrying a serious stadium debt, are struggling to pay it down, and now the conference potentially gets devalued.

It is possible (I can’t say for sure if it’s likely) that the UCLA B1G move actually costs the UC system more than what UCLA would pull in. The compromise talk going around is that the BOR would order some of the B1G revenue would be transferred to cover Cal’s issues.

Meanwhile, there two really big games next weekend in the Pac… that UCLA-USC game and Oregon hosts Utah. The networks requested the “6 day hold” for these games so we won’t know exact times until tomorrow, but what we do know is one will be prime time back east (4 pm Pacific kickoff) and the other will be the After Dark game. Media all over the coast is livid. We wanted a midday slot for one of them. A lot of media (and the rest of us) hate the After Dark games, because most of the East Coast is either drunk or asleep, these should be good games, and those holds make travel nearly impossible to plan (especially for home team fans). This is one factor that might drive the remaining Pac schools to consider an exclusive streaming contract instead of working with networks that were burying the schools anyway.

 

[behappp]

Another possibility is the Big 12

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/big-12-swipe-san-diego-141043108.html