GrizMusician
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I go to Tech... & I gotta say... god forbid they ever become a 0.500 team. It's just getting to be sad! 
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Saints taking on big (Sky) boys
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Brock Landers
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Aren't they already?GrizMusician said:I go to Tech... & I gotta say... god forbid they ever become a 0.500 team. It's just getting to be sad!
GrizMusician
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Brock Landers said:Aren't they already?GrizMusician said:I go to Tech... & I gotta say... god forbid they ever become a 0.500 team. It's just getting to be sad!
2011 season they won 3/11.
Brock Landers
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What I meant is they're 56-57 over the last 10 years
3-8
5-6
7-4
4-7
7-4
6-5
9-4
8-4
3-8
4-7
3-8
5-6
7-4
4-7
7-4
6-5
9-4
8-4
3-8
4-7
formergrizfan
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Tuck Fech - best t-shirts worn by saints fans at tech/carroll games :lol:
guess we'll all wait til Sept 1 and find out who's right....
guess we'll all wait til Sept 1 and find out who's right....
For the most part this entire conversation reminds me of stuff I read last year on the Tennessee Vols blog; with Carroll being The Griz and PSU being UT. I went to both schools and enjoy watching both teams play (Griz and Saints). Smart fans realize its NAIA football; its not a knock its just a differnet level. It will be a fun game to watch and I hope its close.
I always hope my team is in the game; if I didn't have hope (even if its out there) I don't see the fun in watching sports.
I always hope my team is in the game; if I didn't have hope (even if its out there) I don't see the fun in watching sports.
BDizzle said:
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My dad taught there for 25 years. It isn't always easy to be a fan though.
formergrizfan
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For the most part this entire conversation reminds me of stuff I read last year on the Tennessee Vols blog; with Carroll being The Griz and PSU being UT. I went to both schools and enjoy watching both teams play (Griz and Saints). Smart fans realize its NAIA football; its not a knock its just a differnet level. It will be a fun game to watch and I hope its close.
i agree. in all my posts i never said the saints will beat PSU, i just tried to make the case that carroll can make a game of it. several griz fans apparently took issue with that..... there is no debate that FCS athletes are generally bigger, faster and more athletic. MVD and coaching staff enjoy the underdog roll and will play well. i hope the griz fans that dont think it will be close (50-60 point win for PSU) are man enough to come back and admit their mistake - i'll be here eating crow if Carroll gets beat that bad.....
i agree. in all my posts i never said the saints will beat PSU, i just tried to make the case that carroll can make a game of it. several griz fans apparently took issue with that..... there is no debate that FCS athletes are generally bigger, faster and more athletic. MVD and coaching staff enjoy the underdog roll and will play well. i hope the griz fans that dont think it will be close (50-60 point win for PSU) are man enough to come back and admit their mistake - i'll be here eating crow if Carroll gets beat that bad.....
Brock Landers
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I think PSU will win by 21
Splitting the difference as it were
Splitting the difference as it were
WaGriz4life
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I agree. I was at the Tennessee game and thought the Griz O and D line looked bigger and I thought they looked better. It was a pleasant suprise to hear Dooley agree with me in his press conference talking about how UT got "whipped" up front and if it wasn't for the speed advantage on the outside, the game could have been a lot closer.Raider said:
You think there is any chance of this happening in PSU? Some of you probably do.
Didn't mean to infer I was directly comparing the teams; just the comments. UT had no love and in the end even their coach had respect.
Considering this discussion I'm not surprissed you jumped all over its a negative dig and rubbed in the difference (which is pretty obvious if you watch both NAIA and FCS) again.
Considering this discussion I'm not surprissed you jumped all over its a negative dig and rubbed in the difference (which is pretty obvious if you watch both NAIA and FCS) again.
GrizMusician
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Brock Landers said:
It's been pretty downhill over the last few years.
oday4gov said:
don't you know that if you say anything against the Griz you will catch venom on this board? Carroll is an NAIA team - how dare you say they play quality football
....I said this before, Carroll won't win but I am glad to see them step up and play PSU. Just like Griz players were excited to play, albeit an average UT team, they were at the top level of college football - the Carroll players are excited to play an FCS D1 opponent...no difference.GrizRanger
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OldtiredGRiz said:
Carroll has a great program and a tough coach. I expect PSU to be in a competitive game with Carroll, although PSU has to be favored, and should win with their huge advantage in scholarships.
However, many Griz fans do not realize what a quality football program Carroll has, and while they may be shocked if Carroll pulled off an upset. I would not be at all surprised.
WaGriz4life said:
Let me preface this post by saying I have seen MAYBE 3 Carroll College games in my entire life, and I know absolutely NOTHING about their players or their skill levels...
Carroll College Saints:
On offense:
Their center is 6'1", 265 (significantly larger than the sCats center, if I recall)
They have 9 offensive linemen that go 280 lbs or better, and 3 that top 290.
Their senior-most QB is 6'1", 195 lbs
Their starting RB is 6'0", 227 lbs, and they have EIGHT RB's on the roster that top 200 lbs
Their 4 WR's are a tad short, going 6'3", 6'2", 6'2" and 6'1" and all are between 180-205 lbs
Their starting TE is 6'5", 255 lbs.
On defense:
They have 6 DB's that are over 6' and over 200 lbs (their roster doesn't differentiate between CB and S)
Both their starting DE's are bigger than Featerston was last year
Their top 3 D-linemen are all over 6'2" and go 260, 260, 275 (admittedly, a little light here)
Their LB's are all in the 6'2-6'3" range and average over 225 lbs
Portland State:
On Offense;
Their O-Line goes 6'5", 350 lbs, 6'6", 315 lbs, 6'4", 300 lbs, 6'4", 295 and 6'2" 290 lbs
Their only non-senior QB listed is 6'4", 195 lbs
Their RB's are ALL significantly smaller scat-back types in the 5'8" 175 lbs range
Their WR's are all about the same size as Carrolls, just 5-10 lbs heavier (and probably faster)
Their TE is 6'4" 245
On defense:
Their safeties are in the 6'1", 210 lbs range
Their CB's are short, 5'8 and 5'9" 175 lb range
Their starting DE's are 6'4" 240 and 6'3" 245 (not much bigger than Carroll's)
Their top 3 DL go 290, 290, 265
Their LB's all run 6'1" to 6'2" 230-235 lbs
The real size mismatch is in the trenches. PSU's O-Line is huge compared to Carroll's D-linemen, and conversely Carroll's O-linemen and PSU's D-linemen are roughly the same size. That, a likely speed difference and DEPTH are probably going to make it a long day in Portland for the Saints...
GrizMusician said:Brock Landers said:Aren't they already?GrizMusician said:I go to Tech... & I gotta say... god forbid they ever become a 0.500 team. It's just getting to be sad!
2011 season they won 3/11.
Are you completely oblivious to the fact those 3 wins were with a new coach and staff who installed completely new offensive and defensive schemes? And started a soph at QB. You can bag on Coach Morrell and the Diggs all you want but he will have the Digs contending in a couple years.
Carroll will probably-and more than likely-not win, but should be given credit for trying. They're not going to Portland to lose. The Griz didn't go to Iowa, Oregon, or Tennessee to lose. They competed and they lost. They played their asses off-without the depth, the speed, and the size of the athletes. Give them the credit!
