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hubcap said:
We could bring in Patrick Mahomes and not win the conference next year. We are so far away in personnel it’s insane. Both OL and DL are average at best. On defense we don’t have much for speed. Some good hard hitters but they don’t have the ability to chase the sidelines.

So how many years does Bobby need to get his guys here? Will it take another 5? He is an absolute failure so far. One helluva salesman though. Look how convinced he has Hoops.

It's all of those visits to the lake house. Hoops slams Britt because Danny refused the invitation
 
WaGriz4life said:
ilovethecats said:
Without knowing anything about griz guys I agree with this 100%. Portal has never made it easier to go wherever you’re happy. If you don’t like it move on.

I guess it would only be an issue is if all these unhappy guys kept leaving year after year. That doesn’t seem to be happening.

Same reason I liked Primes opening press conference at Colorado. What he said was 100% fact.
100%. Hauck said this publicly at his press conference end of this year and last year. We do not recruit our current players to stay. If you are unhappy and don’t want to be here please leave. It’s better for you and our program. You are easily replaceable.

Also, I know for a fact this was happening at MSU with Choate. No reason to believe it is not happening with Vigen now.

Are they though? :?
 
WaGriz4life said:
hubcap said:
Oh Hoops, how wrong you are. Have you talked to players on the team? They can’t stand the man. Almost down to every player. And he isn’t the only one. Germer might even be worse. Do they say it in public, hell no. Because like you mentioned earlier, they want his recommendation for their futures. But I can promise you that they don’t like him.

I’ll go one step further. They even tell the recruits how awful this staff is. Not joking at all. They tell them what assholes they are during their time here. Now you know why we don’t score some of these kids. The older players don’t care and don’t want to see Hauck succeed later. Believe me or not, it is happening.

Sorry to burst your Hauck bubble.

Those players are soft and should do us all a favor and LEAVE. Why aren’t they leaving?

Ask a few....they stay because they want to play for the University of Montana and Griz nation, and that is enough to tolerate a has been narcissist and his foul mouthed assistants that get to stay because the narcissist can't admit he is wrong and make upgrades despite their performance. Kiss the ring and you stay, kiss the ring and you get some good ol'boy love at booster functions that some fans live for.....Sad that these fans/boosters compromise their manhood, football knowledge and desire for a true championship caliber team for his belly rubs. If Haslam could run a computer he would see all over the various social media platforms (or even in comments to news articles) the critical mass of Griz nation is not happy and want a change. Not sure how Bobby and coaches can want to continue knowing everywhere they go the majority wants changes. When was the last time you heard a Griz team booed at home (and they were NOT directed at players that was evident)....grab a damn clue.
 
Ursus1 said:
WaGriz4life said:
Those players are soft and should do us all a favor and LEAVE. Why aren’t they leaving?

Ask a few....they stay because they want to play for the University of Montana and Griz nation, and that is enough to tolerate a has been narcissist and his foul mouthed assistants that get to stay because the narcissist can't admit he is wrong and make upgrades despite their performance. Kiss the ring and you stay, kiss the ring and you get some good ol'boy love at booster functions that some fans live for.....Sad that these fans/boosters compromise their manhood, football knowledge and desire for a true championship caliber team for his belly rubs. If Haslam could run a computer he would see all over the various social media platforms (or even in comments to news articles) the critical mass of Griz nation is not happy and want a change. Not sure how Bobby and coaches can want to continue knowing everywhere they go the majority wants changes. When was the last time you heard a Griz team booed at home (and they were NOT directed at players that was evident)....grab a damn clue.

While your post is hilarious, it also accurately describes my feelings, and the feelings of most of my friends about the current coaching staff, and the desire for a new direction. I think egriz tends to provide a false snap-shot of what the larger Griz Nation feels about our current program. The usual jock-sniffers who follow Hauck around town to feel important tend to post here to offer support, because they know that the discontent among the larger fan base is real. It is what it is. I have never heard our home crowd booing our team before....EVER! That should be proof that the discontent is real.
 
hubcap said:
mthoopsfan said:
Almost everything you said is wrong, but go for it. Hauck and the coaches don't use old school negative reinforcement. The program has climbed significantly since Hauck returned. More wins. Two top 8 rankings, and probably a top 10/12 this year. Playoffs and playoff wins. What has to change is that the Griz need a very good qb who is healthy and available for the whole season, or a backup who can step in and win games. That's mostly it. The recipe is clearly working. It started working almost immediately.

Oh Hoops, how wrong you are. Have you talked to players on the team? They can’t stand the man. Almost down to every player. And he isn’t the only one. Germer might even be worse. Do they say it in public, hell no. Because like you mentioned earlier, they want his recommendation for their futures. But I can promise you that they don’t like him.

I’ll go one step further. They even tell the recruits how awful this staff is. Not joking at all. They tell them what assholes they are during their time here. Now you know why we don’t score some of these kids. The older players don’t care and don’t want to see Hauck succeed later. Believe me or not, it is happening.

Sorry to burst your Hauck bubble.

Yes, I know players on the team and their parents.

Players often don’t like their head coaches in college. The role or goal of the head coach is NOT to make the players like him. I didn’t like mine. So, no surprise. When Hauck first came, most hated him. Now, some of those guys have different view.

Players that say negative things to recruits, other than their little brothers, should leave the team.

When do you expect the Portal get full of Griz players leaving?
 
RoseyMustGo said:
Ursus1 said:
Ask a few....they stay because they want to play for the University of Montana and Griz nation, and that is enough to tolerate a has been narcissist and his foul mouthed assistants that get to stay because the narcissist can't admit he is wrong and make upgrades despite their performance. Kiss the ring and you stay, kiss the ring and you get some good ol'boy love at booster functions that some fans live for.....Sad that these fans/boosters compromise their manhood, football knowledge and desire for a true championship caliber team for his belly rubs. If Haslam could run a computer he would see all over the various social media platforms (or even in comments to news articles) the critical mass of Griz nation is not happy and want a change. Not sure how Bobby and coaches can want to continue knowing everywhere they go the majority wants changes. When was the last time you heard a Griz team booed at home (and they were NOT directed at players that was evident)....grab a damn clue.

While your post is hilarious, it also accurately describes my feelings, and the feelings of most of my friends about the current coaching staff, and the desire for a new direction. I think egriz tends to provide a false snap-shot of what the larger Griz Nation feels about our current program. The usual jock-sniffers who follow Hauck around town to feel important tend to post here to offer support, because they know that the discontent among the larger fan base is real. It is what it is. I have never heard our home crowd booing our team before....EVER! That should be proof that the discontent is real.

The bulk of Griz Nation likes Bobby. Almost all of the top supporters and boosters support Bobby. QB Club just raised a nice chunk of money in recent weeks. Large growth of members in recent years including this year.

You are too out of the loop and probably young to know any of this. Get back to us when you are donating at least $10,000 to UM annually.
 
I’m in the middle. I’m a 25+ year season ticket holder and and a couple years ago started giving a modest QBC contribution. There are things I’d really like to see change, but I won’t stop supporting the kids just because I don’t like some of the things the staff does.
 
mthoopsfan said:
RoseyMustGo said:
While your post is hilarious, it also accurately describes my feelings, and the feelings of most of my friends about the current coaching staff, and the desire for a new direction. I think egriz tends to provide a false snap-shot of what the larger Griz Nation feels about our current program. The usual jock-sniffers who follow Hauck around town to feel important tend to post here to offer support, because they know that the discontent among the larger fan base is real. It is what it is. I have never heard our home crowd booing our team before....EVER! That should be proof that the discontent is real.

The bulk of Griz Nation likes Bobby. Almost all of the top supporters and boosters support Bobby. QB Club just raised a nice chunk of money in recent weeks. Large growth of members in recent years including this year.

You are too out of the loop and probably young to know any of this. Get back to us when you are donating at least $10,000 to UM annually.

Love how when it doesn't fit your agenda or you might have to crawl out from under Bobby's desk if he is let go that everyone else is wrong you are the all powerful and knowing everything....F that and the old school QB Club who Bobby has under his trance. BH is all smoke and mirrors. If you don't like it leave, when you get old enough come back...how dare you disrespect and disagree with the almighty OZ :) He is a douch and he is too arrogant to change up his staff....his system is not working, we got boat raced by teams he wants to compete with.....The bulk of Griz Nation does not like BH, I have been around for plenty of time and raised and donated plenty...I have also had family recruited by and visit the UM and the smoke and mirror show is real,.recruits them great I will give him that but once he gets them in the door his tune changes. I think if Bobby stays he has to man up and make some changes, OC, DC, Oline coach who hasn't done shit in years, hell his own kid went to Bozo...yes for basketball but still. You are not all knowing and correct and neither am I but changes need to be made...he got hired and said its a 3 to 4 year process to get back to where we were.....5 years and counting and not looking any better. Back in the day Griz were dominant and the recruiting was a lot easier than now...now the cats are dominating and Weber and Sac and NDSU...a lot more competition.....and unfortunately the "old school" way of doing things doesn't seem to work with this new generation......It also wouldn't hurt to get the kids on a nutrition and better strength and conditioning program....we drop like flies and the next man up is also hurt....lots of work to do and if this staff stays the same they need to check egos at the door just like they expect their players to do....admitting being wrong is the first step but he won't do that, he is there for record books...he wants to set the Big Sky wins record at the cost of not improving a program just maintaining it long enough to stroke his ego and retire.

GO GRIZ..........FTC......FtC.....FTc.....fTC....ftc
 
MTGRIZ12 said:
mthoopsfan said:
The bulk of Griz Nation likes Bobby. Almost all of the top supporters and boosters support Bobby. QB Club just raised a nice chunk of money in recent weeks. Large growth of members in recent years including this year.

You are too out of the loop and probably young to know any of this. Get back to us when you are donating at least $10,000 to UM annually.

Love how when it doesn't fit your agenda or you might have to crawl out from under Bobby's desk if he is let go that everyone else is wrong you are the all powerful and knowing everything....F that and the old school QB Club who Bobby has under his trance. BH is all smoke and mirrors. If you don't like it leave, when you get old enough come back...how dare you disrespect and disagree with the almighty OZ :) He is a douch and he is too arrogant to change up his staff....his system is not working, we got boat raced by teams he wants to compete with.....The bulk of Griz Nation does not like BH, I have been around for plenty of time and raised and donated plenty...I have also had family recruited by and visit the UM and the smoke and mirror show is real,.recruits them great I will give him that but once he gets them in the door his tune changes. I think if Bobby stays he has to man up and make some changes, OC, DC, Oline coach who hasn't done shit in years, hell his own kid went to Bozo...yes for basketball but still. You are not all knowing and correct and neither am I but changes need to be made...he got hired and said its a 3 to 4 year process to get back to where we were.....5 years and counting and not looking any better. Back in the day Griz were dominant and the recruiting was a lot easier than now...now the cats are dominating and Weber and Sac and NDSU...a lot more competition.....and unfortunately the "old school" way of doing things doesn't seem to work with this new generation......It also wouldn't hurt to get the kids on a nutrition and better strength and conditioning program....we drop like flies and the next man up is also hurt....lots of work to do and if this staff stays the same they need to check egos at the door just like they expect their players to do....admitting being wrong is the first step but he won't do that, he is there for record books...he wants to set the Big Sky wins record at the cost of not improving a program just maintaining it long enough to stroke his ego and retire.

GO GRIZ..........FTC......FtC.....FTc.....fTC....ftc

You don’t know what you are talking about. UM has had huge positive progress since Bobby returned. Averaging about top 10, with multiple playoffs and playoff wins, up from not in top 30 when Stitt left. Cats have won more playoff games in last 3 years. Who else?

F the Bad Fans. F the Bad Fans.
 
Butte5518 said:
mthoopsfan said:
Next year is not a semi-rebuilding year if we have a very good qb who is healthy for the whole season. The Griz would be good next season, if they didn't add one player other than finding a very good qb.

Who is this very good QB that you talk about??... If there is not one, it is the pure definition of a rebuilding year... C'mon Mrs. HAUCK... You are way too far up your husband's ass to have an objective opinion..

Why do you even care, asshole? You’re one of these dumb fucks I’d like to meet in person.
 
AZGrizFan said:
3rd 4th 6th. You have a strange definition of progress.

I judge by making the playoffs, playoff wins, and poll ranking at end of season. No one except you cares about conf rank. Which conference schools have more playoff wins in last 3 years, other than Cats. Just asking. SS has 1.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Replacing a graduating qb is not a rebuilding year. How dumb was that comment.
Curious, What about the other starters like safeties, corners, linebackers, dline, oline? Read it is 10/22 not counting placekicker and that assumes no others decide to leave. What number would it take to be rebuilding?
 
Ursus1 said:
mthoopsfan said:
Replacing a graduating qb is not a rebuilding year. How dumb was that comment.
Curious, What about the other starters like safeties, corners, linebackers, dline, oline? Read it is 10/22 not counting placekicker and that assumes no others decide to leave. What number would it take to be rebuilding?

From top 22, 8 starters from last game not returning, plus Todd. Cats have 7 not returning. I have answered your other question twice elsewhere.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Replacing a graduating qb is not a rebuilding year. How dumb was that comment.

I agree at most programs that alone isn't rebuilding, but with this incompetent staff it absolutely is rebuilding.
 
mthoopsfan said:
hubcap said:
Oh Hoops, how wrong you are. Have you talked to players on the team? They can’t stand the man. Almost down to every player. And he isn’t the only one. Germer might even be worse. Do they say it in public, hell no. Because like you mentioned earlier, they want his recommendation for their futures. But I can promise you that they don’t like him.

I’ll go one step further. They even tell the recruits how awful this staff is. Not joking at all. They tell them what assholes they are during their time here. Now you know why we don’t score some of these kids. The older players don’t care and don’t want to see Hauck succeed later. Believe me or not, it is happening.

Sorry to burst your Hauck bubble.

Yes, I know players on the team and their parents.

Players often don’t like their head coaches in college. The role or goal of the head coach is to make the players like him. I didn’t like mine. So, no surprise. When Hauck first came, most hated him. Now, some of those guys have different view.

Players that say negative things to recruits, other than their little brothers, should leave the team.

When do you expect the Portal get full of Griz players leaving?

I hope this is a typo...if not, I whole heartedly disagree.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Ursus1 said:
Curious, What about the other starters like safeties, corners, linebackers, dline, oline? Read it is 10/22 not counting placekicker and that assumes no others decide to leave. What number would it take to be rebuilding?

From top 22, 8 starters from last game not returning, plus Todd. Cats have 7 not returning. I have answered your other question twice elsewhere.

Cats' subs are better than Griz starters.
 
Mousegriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
From top 22, 8 starters from last game not returning, plus Todd. Cats have 7 not returning. I have answered your other question twice elsewhere.

Cats' subs are better than Griz starters.

Not sure about that...Griz scored at will with Britt in the game.
 
Griz2k said:
mthoopsfan said:
Yes, I know players on the team and their parents.

Players often don’t like their head coaches in college. The role or goal of the head coach is to make the players like him. I didn’t like mine. So, no surprise. When Hauck first came, most hated him. Now, some of those guys have different view.

Players that say negative things to recruits, other than their little brothers, should leave the team.

When do you expect the Portal get full of Griz players leaving?

I hope this is a typo...if not, I whole heartedly disagree.

Yup, typo. Thx.
 
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