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Ronnie Bradford out to Miami

mtgrizrule said:
I'm happy for Bradford. The timing is terrible.
This is a huge loss.
Let's hope the defense loses nothing on the field.
Is Cooper ready, if Tim doesn't want it?
I'm hoping, Tim will be DC. The GRIZ hire another analyst that can transition and prepare to be DC in a year or 2.

Does this open up a safeties coach spot for Robbie?
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I would assume if Tim gets elevated to any coaching position, he’ll be taking over safeties, whether it’s as DC or as a safeties coach if Cooper gets the DC nod.
 
"He was an awesome coach. Very demanding, very smart, relatable to players since he played for so long, and was never satisfied. Great coach."
 
mthoopsfan said:
"He was an awesome coach. Very demanding, very smart, relatable to players since he played for so long, and was never satisfied. Great coach."
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Agreed, 1 of the best coaches for the GRIZ.
 
Look at it this way. Bobby could always recruit talented kids. Many ended up in the league. It produced a flood of wealth with recruits. If this coaching staff can now say hey, we get coaches in the NFL too from here. Seems like a strong recruiting tool...
I like Bradford and he did amazing. I have to think the moves are way ahead of the tea leaves we are reading tonight.
If we can keep the talent (which was proven through lack of portal entries), I also feel very comfortable tonight that a great coach will step in with a full cupboard
 
Tough timing for sure, but happy for Ronnie. We’ve got some options. Will be interesting to see if it’s an internal promotion or an outside hire.
 
dirtysoup said:
It sucks to lose him, but losing good coaches to better jobs is the price for winning.

I think they'll probably promote within, but an interesting name to keep in mind is Zach Arnett. He was high on the list for D coordinator when Hauck came back before he went to Mississippi State. He was fired after last season and I don't think he's landed another job. It would be a big step down for him, but he's only 37 and a job like this could rebound his career.
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This is a very interesting name. Coached at San Diego State for several years with Hauck and under Rocky Long with that 3-3-5 defense, which then was also implemented at Mississippi State. The possibility of having a strongish connection with Hauck would lead you to wonder if he at least is worth a phone call.
 
Bradford did an amazing job in his first year as DC. It sure felt like he had a lot more success with less talent than the previous year.

I assume brother Tim will move into the dc job if he wants it.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Honestly I'd rather have Arnett for 3-4 than Tim for 1.
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I think it would be more likely the other way, in terms of years. Tim likes MT and UM. Arnett would just get back on his feet and move on. I think he'd be terrific, tho. I don't think Tim loves the 3-3-5.
 
"Arnett signed a four-year contract with an annual salary of $3 million. With the termination of his appointment, the 37-year-old coach will not be leaving empty-handed. This is because his contract included a buy-out that will amount to 50% of the remaining amount. With over three years remaining on his contract, Mississippi State will have to pay Arnett no less than $4 million.


There's an added clause, however. In the case that Arnett gets another coaching job, the salary he gets from the job will deduct from what Mississippi State owes him."

https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-football/news-zach-arnett-fired-contract-buyout-details-mississippi-state-s-hc-explored
 
mthoopsfan said:
AZGrizFan said:
Honestly I'd rather have Arnett for 3-4 than Tim for 1.
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I think it would be more likely the other way, in terms of years. Tim likes MT and UM. Arnett would just get back on his feet and move on. I think he'd be terrific, tho. I don't think Tim loves the 3-4.
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Oh. Well I was basing that on the fact that it's been said on here Tim doesn't want the job, so he wouldn't even be a mid-term solution...if that's not correct, and Tim would stay 3-4 years (not the 3-4 D, lol), then hell yeah, I'd love him to be the DC.
 
Tim Hauck is the ONE person who could talk with Bobby and have a frank discussion about the 3-4 defense and it's pro's and con's. I think they've probably had this discussion, probably more than once.
A couple weeks after signing day is not a good omen if there is any hope of change coming.
 
AZGrizFan said:
mthoopsfan said:
I think it would be more likely the other way, in terms of years. Tim likes MT and UM. Arnett would just get back on his feet and move on. I think he'd be terrific, tho. I don't think Tim loves the 3-4.
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Oh. Well I was basing that on the fact that it's been said on here Tim doesn't want the job, so he wouldn't even be a mid-term solution...if that's not correct, and Tim would stay 3-4 years (not the 3-4 D, lol), then hell yeah, I'd love him to be the DC.
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The chatter I heard was that Tim didn't want the DC job last year. Now, he has had the defensive analyst for a year, been around the team, and been to Frisco. I assume he's interested in staying around, in some capacity and maybe DC. In any event, I hope he stays with the team.
 
Mick Belker said:
Tim Hauck is the ONE person who could talk with Bobby and have a frank discussion about the 3-4 defense and it's pro's and con's. I think they've probably had this discussion, probably more than once.
A couple weeks after signing day is not a good omen if there is any hope of change coming.
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We don't run a 3-4. We run a 3-3-5. I'm not trying to be pedantic or nitpick you, but there is a genuine difference there that matters. The "3-4" being mentioned about was "three or four years," not using a 3-4 base defensive scheme.

Why would someone need to have a frank discussion about that? We heard that the defense doesn't work and will never have success. Then for year over year, the Griz have had one of the best defenses in the FCS. People said it couldn't stop running teams like MSU and NDSU, then our 3-3-5 stopped MSU stone cold and beat NDSU. TCS went to the FBS championship game with it last year. We went this year. The 3-3-5 is a perfectly good defense for the modern college spread game, one that our senior laden crew is familiar with, and it is the one that Bobby fully believes in. He was very clear after Baer left that it wasn't Baer's 3-3-5 being brought in, but it was Bobby's 3-3-5 and Baer was running it.

Sounds to me, from people who know secondary play MUCH better than I do, that Tim Hauck and Bradford worked together to layer in a much more nuanced secondary scheme with a system and rules that fixed up some of the trouble areas in the past year.

You always need to update and improve schemes in all facets of coaching year-to-year, but I don't see a need for anyone to try to get Bobby Hauck to switch horses mid race, including his brother. As long as Bobby is coaching in Missoula, he sounded pretty firm to me that the 3-3-5 would be the defense.
 
Thanks for the correction. My point, not made very well, is that Tim Hauck would have agree with the 3-3-5 if he were named DC. If not, he'd stay as position coach.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
Mick Belker said:
Tim Hauck is the ONE person who could talk with Bobby and have a frank discussion about the 3-4 defense and it's pro's and con's. I think they've probably had this discussion, probably more than once.
A couple weeks after signing day is not a good omen if there is any hope of change coming.
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We don't run a 3-4. We run a 3-3-5. I'm not trying to be pedantic or nitpick you, but there is a genuine difference there that matters. The "3-4" being mentioned about was "three or four years," not using a 3-4 base defensive scheme.

Why would someone need to have a frank discussion about that? We heard that the defense doesn't work and will never have success. Then for year over year, the Griz have had one of the best defenses in the FCS. People said it couldn't stop running teams like MSU and NDSU, then our 3-3-5 stopped MSU stone cold and beat NDSU. TCS went to the FBS championship game with it last year. We went this year. The 3-3-5 is a perfectly good defense for the modern college spread game, one that our senior laden crew is familiar with, and it is the one that Bobby fully believes in. He was very clear after Baer left that it wasn't Baer's 3-3-5 being brought in, but it was Bobby's 3-3-5 and Baer was running it.

Sounds to me, from people who know secondary play MUCH better than I do, that Tim Hauck and Bradford worked together to layer in a much more nuanced secondary scheme with a system and rules that fixed up some of the trouble areas in the past year.

You always need to update and improve schemes in all facets of coaching year-to-year, but I don't see a need for anyone to try to get Bobby Hauck to switch horses mid race, including his brother. As long as Bobby is coaching in Missoula, he sounded pretty firm to me that the 3-3-5 would be the defense.
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Ndsu and sdsu both ran the ball rather well against the u of montana, sdsu did better than ndsu.
 
Livininthebush said:
ElrodGrizzly said:
We don't run a 3-4. We run a 3-3-5. I'm not trying to be pedantic or nitpick you, but there is a genuine difference there that matters. The "3-4" being mentioned about was "three or four years," not using a 3-4 base defensive scheme.

Why would someone need to have a frank discussion about that? We heard that the defense doesn't work and will never have success. Then for year over year, the Griz have had one of the best defenses in the FCS. People said it couldn't stop running teams like MSU and NDSU, then our 3-3-5 stopped MSU stone cold and beat NDSU. TCS went to the FBS championship game with it last year. We went this year. The 3-3-5 is a perfectly good defense for the modern college spread game, one that our senior laden crew is familiar with, and it is the one that Bobby fully believes in. He was very clear after Baer left that it wasn't Baer's 3-3-5 being brought in, but it was Bobby's 3-3-5 and Baer was running it.

Sounds to me, from people who know secondary play MUCH better than I do, that Tim Hauck and Bradford worked together to layer in a much more nuanced secondary scheme with a system and rules that fixed up some of the trouble areas in the past year.

You always need to update and improve schemes in all facets of coaching year-to-year, but I don't see a need for anyone to try to get Bobby Hauck to switch horses mid race, including his brother. As long as Bobby is coaching in Missoula, he sounded pretty firm to me that the 3-3-5 would be the defense.
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Ndsu and sdsu both ran the ball rather well against the u of montana, sdsu did better than ndsu.
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Hate to point the obvious out to someone but I guess you need it pointed out to you…..on several occasions. This one in particular, no body in the FCS was anywhere near sdsu’s talent level. Obviously not UM and ndsu and most definitely not the scats.
 
Livininthebush said:
ElrodGrizzly said:
We don't run a 3-4. We run a 3-3-5. I'm not trying to be pedantic or nitpick you, but there is a genuine difference there that matters. The "3-4" being mentioned about was "three or four years," not using a 3-4 base defensive scheme.

Why would someone need to have a frank discussion about that? We heard that the defense doesn't work and will never have success. Then for year over year, the Griz have had one of the best defenses in the FCS. People said it couldn't stop running teams like MSU and NDSU, then our 3-3-5 stopped MSU stone cold and beat NDSU. TCS went to the FBS championship game with it last year. We went this year. The 3-3-5 is a perfectly good defense for the modern college spread game, one that our senior laden crew is familiar with, and it is the one that Bobby fully believes in. He was very clear after Baer left that it wasn't Baer's 3-3-5 being brought in, but it was Bobby's 3-3-5 and Baer was running it.

Sounds to me, from people who know secondary play MUCH better than I do, that Tim Hauck and Bradford worked together to layer in a much more nuanced secondary scheme with a system and rules that fixed up some of the trouble areas in the past year.

You always need to update and improve schemes in all facets of coaching year-to-year, but I don't see a need for anyone to try to get Bobby Hauck to switch horses mid race, including his brother. As long as Bobby is coaching in Missoula, he sounded pretty firm to me that the 3-3-5 would be the defense.
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Ndsu and sdsu both ran the ball rather well against the u of montana, sdsu did better than ndsu.
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SDSU ran for 188 and averaged 5.5ypc. They averaged 230 a game and 6.36ypc coming in. NDSU ran for 175 and 4.4ypc. They averaged 242 a game 5.9ypc coming in. So yes, technically SDSU did slightly better, but it wasn’t SDSU’s rushing game that beat us. It was their defense.
 
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