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right to privacy argument by Meloy

NorthEndZoneDan

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The daily rag is reporting the latest filing in the krakauer saga. As I understand it, Meloy is arguing that JJ surrendered his right to privacy because of the student athlete code of conduct that says student athletes should expect more scrutiny by the press. I want to hear from the legal beagles here, is this clutching at straws or is Meloy on solid footing? Seems to me, its a real wtf? argument.

http://missoulian.com/news/local/krakauer-brief-former-griz-qb-johnson-s-right-to-privacy/article_b8381c30-99bf-5728-ac11-5f5ad421cba8.html
 
That particular argument is total BS. Won't fly. The athletic code doesn't trump federal and state privacy statutes and law. It's a silly argument, and makes no logical sense. The code, which athletes sign, warns them that as athletes they may be subject to more media scrutiny. Meloy then argues that JJ waived his rights to privacy under federal and state law. As I lawyer, I would be embarrassed to even make an argument like that.

I have felt all along that federal and state privacy laws should and would prevail, and not allow disclosure. My thought has been that the best argument may be that a good deal of the facts, and early university process, is already public, some of which came from brief's filed to stop the university proceeding. However, I don't think there was official public release of anything after the time right before the university proceeding that got released or made public.

I haven't read the briefs, or followed closely. Just from articles like this. Perhaps will do more if I get time. From the article, Meloy's argument that a normal date rape qualifies for an extremely narrow violent crime exception isn't a credible argument.

The Missoulian's continuing statement that JJ was found to have committed sexual assault in multiple university proceedings is not accurate, is damaging to JJ, and I think could be actionable. There was only one "proceeding", to my knowledge, and various appeals up university/higher education chain. MT higher ed and its counsel eventually found that the original proceeding had been grossly unfair and had not followed proper procedures, and that the dean had made multiple mistakes--or something like that, according to the rumor mill. While someone may have looked at the file again, another "proceeding" was not held, again to my knowledge (really the rumor mill's knowledge).
 
So, one would think that the pharmacy student/accuser female would therefore be named?
Good grief, let these people get on with life!
 
Honest question. Does anyone honestly know if Jordan Johnson has or plans to file a civil law suit against the Missoulian and/or Krakwhore? This current event is most definitely crossing the lines of human decency. If I were JJ, I'd be pursuing everything to the full extent of the law, if for anything to get the likes of the Missoulian and JK off my ass!!! Honestly to God, do they not have better things to do than to haunt JJ?
 
Curious to know if Florios (part time I believe) position as a professor at the U of M will be one of the jobs slashed due to the latest budget cuts.

Oh the irony.
 
signedbewildered said:
Curious to know if Florios (part time I believe) position as a professor at the U of M will be one of the jobs slashed due to the latest budget cuts.

Oh the irony.

It would kind of make my day... Fired by the university because of the damage her muckraking did to the university that hired her. The tabloid full circle.
 
granitegriz said:
We can only hope PDX! And mtgrizrule, good point that JJ should go on the offensive! :thumb:
:thumb: :thumb:

Unfortunately, while I agree ... the cost would almost certainly be prohibitive. And, as I recall, the family's finances are already screwed up from what's happened so far. (Hope I'm wrong on that, but that's my recollection.)
 
IdaGriz01 said:
granitegriz said:
We can only hope PDX! And mtgrizrule, good point that JJ should go on the offensive! :thumb:
:thumb: :thumb:

Unfortunately, while I agree ... the cost would almost certainly be prohibitive. And, as I recall, the family's finances are already screwed up from what's happened so far. (Hope I'm wrong on that, but that's my recollection.)

If there was a good or even decent case, a plaintiffs lawyer would take it on a contingency fee basis, i.e. zero cost to JJ or his family.

I don't know and have not heard anything other than speculation, but I too think JJ should go on the offensive.
 
Does show the players are aware that what isn't newsworthy for the typical student is for them and they are held to a higher standard for indiscretions being publicly covered (misdemeanors etc). That being said....not waiving right to privacy. Crackwhore needs to move on with another project.
 
Using the same rationale as libtards do in favor of gun control, given that Krakauer feels that the UM campus is an enclave of rape, shouldn't he step forward to have himself voluntarily castrated?
 
NorthEndZoneDan said:
I would have to think that since JJ hasn't retained a lawyer(s) on a contingency basis, the family and JJ have decided to move on.
It's a case he would win, it's also undoubtedly a case he does not want to relive.
 
Hoof Hearted said:
Using the same rationale as libtards do in favor of gun control, given that Krakauer feels that the UM campus is an enclave of rape, shouldn't he step forward to have himself voluntarily castrated?

Even from an apparent Rethuglican, this is one of the stupidest posts I've seen in a while. And I'm not a Kracker fan. Sounding like D. Trump is not a commendable trait.
 
NorthEndZoneDan said:
The daily rag is reporting the latest filing in the krakauer saga. As I understand it, Meloy is arguing that JJ surrendered his right to privacy because of the student athlete code of conduct that says student athletes should expect more scrutiny by the press. I want to hear from the legal beagles here, is this clutching at straws or is Meloy on solid footing? Seems to me, its a real wtf? argument.

http://missoulian.com/news/local/krakauer-brief-former-griz-qb-johnson-s-right-to-privacy/article_b8381c30-99bf-5728-ac11-5f5ad421cba8.html

I don't think that's the argument, which is more nuanced. The argument is not that he surrendered his right to privacy, but that he knew as a student athlete that his actions may be subject to greater public scrutiny and he knew it based upon the code of conduct. This discussion is at pages 44-45 of the brief, available at:

https://supremecourtdocket.mt.gov/view/DA%2015-0502%20Appellee's%20Response%20--%20Brief?id={C04C3B51-0000-C61B-8C5F-F222B4088261}

JJ's lesser actual (subjective) expectation of privacy ties into the balancing test under the Montana Constitution between the public right to know about actions and activities of public institutions/officials/employees versus the personal right to privacy.

The quote in the second paragraph of the Missoulain article is on page 36 of brief as part of the argument that, once JJ's identity became commonly known with respect to the allegations, he no longer had a reasonable expectation of privacy because the disclosure of his identity could not be "undone". Mike Meloy probably litigates more government record requests than any other lawyer in Montana, he has been doing it a long time, and he knows the law very well. I am not saying Krakauer will prevail, but he hired Meloy for a reason.
 
The link did not copy over correctly. If you go to

https://supremecourtdocket.mt.gov/index.jsp

Select Active Case search, then type in Meloy as the attorney, select the case, and hit the link to Brief - Appellee's Response filed 11/23/2015. You can find the brief that way.
 
Plainsman said:
Hoof Hearted said:
Using the same rationale as libtards do in favor of gun control, given that Krakauer feels that the UM campus is an enclave of rape, shouldn't he step forward to have himself voluntarily castrated?

Even from an apparent Rethuglican, this is one of the stupidest posts I've seen in a while.

It would have to be if you read it.
 
Hoof Hearted said:
Plainsman said:
Hoof Hearted said:
Using the same rationale as libtards do in favor of gun control, given that Krakauer feels that the UM campus is an enclave of rape, shouldn't he step forward to have himself voluntarily castrated?

Even from an apparent Rethuglican, this is one of the stupidest posts I've seen in a while.

It would have to be if you read it.

Extremely weak, just like your intellectual capacity....that is, if you have any at all?????
 
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