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Returning UM football to dominance

Raider said:
PlayerRep said:
Raider said:
PlayerRep said:
Delaney had a seeded team in the playoffs the only year he had his star qb (and only year he had a qb on the roster who had completed a pass in college as of the start of the season). The star qb will be playing again this fall.

....and we were one and done in a playoffs.

Sorry, not a strong argument on your part.

UM has been one and done in the playoffs multiple times previously. Sorry, your argument is neither strong nor particularly relevant.

UM lost to a very good CC team in the playoffs. CC played its best game of the season against UM. UM didn't bring its A game, especially late in the 2d quarter, when it gave 21 points in just over 6 minutes, resulting a 1 TD loss. Unfortunate, but 10-3 with a playoff seed still a very good season--especially in light of the rebound from the prior year's losing season.

Jes-s man, how is my argument not relevant?

You state that Mick took the Griz to a "seed" in the playoffs in the one and only year he had his star QB. I simply pointed out we were one and done in the same year, which kind of validates the comment that Boscoe made above. You then go on to make rationalizations of how/why we lost that game. Not sure if you are debating or agreeing……………..

In my first post, I made a statement, without any argument. The statement was absolutely true. Then you can back with a statement (one and done) and said my "statement" was a strong "argument". Well, my statement wasn't an argument. It was just a fact. Thus, your statement and post wasn't particularly relevant, in my view. You do understand the difference between a statement and an argument, I hope.
 
I should have known better than to initiate dialogue with the spinmaster. Stupid me.

Nevermind, carry on.
 
PlayerRep said:
UM didn't bring its A game [vs CC]
If you are attempting to defend the coaching, this might be the worst example you could possibly mention. Of all the incredibly embarrasing coaching debacles during MickyD's tenure, this might be the worst.
 
garizzalies said:
PlayerRep said:
UM didn't bring its A game [vs CC]
If you are attempting to defend the coaching, this might be the worst example you could possibly mention. Of all the incredibly embarrasing coaching debacles during MickyD's tenure, this might be the worst.

Why is it that some many posters on egriz don't seem to know how to read or comprehend? Saying UM didn't bring its A game is defending the coaches? Huh? Do you think UM brought its A game in the CC game?

Shifting gears slightly, do you think the coaches, or defensive coaches, coached well, or fairly well, for 1.5 quarters of the first half (2 TD's given up, including 86 yd pass), and all of the second half (7 points given up), but just coached poorly for just over say half of the 2d quarter (when UM gave up 21 points). If so, what do you think the coaches changed, or did wrong, in that half quarter?
 
Boscoe made a (very astute) comment about the coaching and you went on a tirade to defend the coaches, and in doing so, for some dumb reason, you mentioned how the team did not bring its A game to play CC. You shot yourself in the foot there because not preparing the team (i.e., not bringing their A game) falls on the coaches.

I don't belive you can coach "poorly" for one part of the the game and "well" for the rest. Despite your efforts to explain "almost wins", there's no partial credit in football. The coaches did nothing "well" in that game. It went from bad to worse, even though CC let us creep back into it late. And the coaches did not seem to "change" anything (adjutment-wise), that's kinda the point.
 
garizzalies said:
Boscoe made a (very astute) comment about the coaching and you went on a tirade to defend the coaches, and in doing so, for some dumb reason, you mentioned how the team did not bring its A game to play CC. You shot yourself in the foot there because not preparing the team (i.e., not bringing their A game) falls on the coaches.

I don't belive you can coach "poorly" for one part of the the game and "well" for the rest. Despite your efforts to explain "almost wins", there's no partial credit in football. The coaches did nothing "well" in that game. It went from bad to worse, even though CC let us creep back into it late. And the coaches did not seem to "change" anything (adjutment-wise), that's kinda the point.


Accurate post. Don't try to reason with the sugar master. He has no credibility with anyone on this board who knows jack about the game of football. His agenda is well know, to be able to accurately count the number of pubes on each coach's crotch.
 
getgrizzy said:
Raider said:
PlayerRep said:
Boscoe said:
Mick Delaney is 0-7 versus teams that have made the playoffs during the year we played them. He only beats the weak teams. Keep kidding yourselfs, Griz fans!

Delaney had a seeded team in the playoffs the only year he had his star qb (and only year he had a qb on the roster who had completed a pass in college as of the start of the season). The star qb will be playing again this fall.

....and we were one and done in a playoffs.

Sorry, not a strong argument on your part.
delaney has a lot more to deal with yet he still got us to 10-2. granted there a couple miracle wins, but he did that while dealing with all kinds of off field issues and resurrecting our a.p.r. we have a much tougher schedule this year and the scholarship reductions look like they had an affect on recruiting transfers for the quick fix. if he gets us to 8-4 that would be some good coaching.


You have bought into the "many off the field issues" talking points, hook...line... and sinker! Please. Those kids on the football team do no allow the drama that went on effect their play. Do you really think that they give a rip about the things fans worry about? They are ballers, who love to play the game. To give Delaney a get-out-of-jail-free card as an excuse for why he continually got schooled in football games by the opposing coach is wrong.
 
Boscoe said:
Mick Delaney is 0-7 versus teams that have made the playoffs during the year we played them. He only beats the weak teams. Keep kidding yourselfs, Griz fans!

Great point, and true to boot!
 
You insensitive prick, you can't call trailers "units" anymore, the PC crowd will lose their fu*king minds. Those border hoppers can take a siesta under a nice fruit tree.
 
Raider said:
PlayerRep said:
Raider said:
PlayerRep said:
Delaney had a seeded team in the playoffs the only year he had his star qb (and only year he had a qb on the roster who had completed a pass in college as of the start of the season). The star qb will be playing again this fall.

....and we were one and done in a playoffs.

Sorry, not a strong argument on your part.

UM has been one and done in the playoffs multiple times previously. Sorry, your argument is neither strong nor particularly relevant.

UM lost to a very good CC team in the playoffs. CC played its best game of the season against UM. UM didn't bring its A game, especially late in the 2d quarter, when it gave 21 points in just over 6 minutes, resulting a 1 TD loss. Unfortunate, but 10-3 with a playoff seed still a very good season--especially in light of the rebound from the prior year's losing season.

Jes-s man, how is my argument not relevant?

You state that Mick took the Griz to a "seed" in the playoffs in the one and only year he had his star QB. I simply pointed out we were one and done in the same year, which kind of validates the comment that Boscoe made above. You then go on to make rationalizations of how/why we lost that game. Not sure if you are debating or agreeing……………..


No, you also said my argument wasn't strong. I had not made any argument. Just stated a fact. Had you just stated your fact, of one and done, I would not have said anything. In later posts, I started addressing other comments.
 
garizzalies said:
Boscoe made a (very astute) comment about the coaching and you went on a tirade to defend the coaches, and in doing so, for some dumb reason, you mentioned how the team did not bring its A game to play CC. You shot yourself in the foot there because not preparing the team (i.e., not bringing their A game) falls on the coaches.

I don't belive you can coach "poorly" for one part of the the game and "well" for the rest. Despite your efforts to explain "almost wins", there's no partial credit in football. The coaches did nothing "well" in that game. It went from bad to worse, even though CC let us creep back into it late. And the coaches did not seem to "change" anything (adjutment-wise), that's kinda the point.

I view coaches as being part of a team. A team is composed of players and coaches.

If you don't believe you can coach poorly in part of a game and well the rest, how do you explain 3 TD's (half of CC's points) in a half quarter? The UM defense gave up 7 points in the second half of the CC game. How can you say the game went from bad to worse. On defense, it went from fine to awful to good. How can you say the D coaches didn't make any adjustments? UM gave up 35 points the first half, and 7 points the second half. I'm starting to thing that you are another of those people who never played the game, and doesn't understand the game.
 
Jeez, you had to repsond to the same post, twice, with two different rebuttals?

Insecure much, Jack?
 
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PlayerRep said:
Raider said:
PlayerRep said:
Raider said:
....and we were one and done in a playoffs.

Sorry, not a strong argument on your part.

UM has been one and done in the playoffs multiple times previously. Sorry, your argument is neither strong nor particularly relevant.

UM lost to a very good CC team in the playoffs. CC played its best game of the season against UM. UM didn't bring its A game, especially late in the 2d quarter, when it gave 21 points in just over 6 minutes, resulting a 1 TD loss. Unfortunate, but 10-3 with a playoff seed still a very good season--especially in light of the rebound from the prior year's losing season.

Jes-s man, how is my argument not relevant?

You state that Mick took the Griz to a "seed" in the playoffs in the one and only year he had his star QB. I simply pointed out we were one and done in the same year, which kind of validates the comment that Boscoe made above. You then go on to make rationalizations of how/why we lost that game. Not sure if you are debating or agreeing……………..


No, you also said my argument wasn't strong. I had not made any argument. Just stated a fact. Had you just stated your fact, of one and done, I would not have said anything. In later posts, I started addressing other comments.


spin
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
You insensitive prick, you can't call trailers "units" anymore, the PC crowd will lose their fu*king minds. Those border hoppers can take a siesta under a nice fruit tree.

In the oil patch we call them skids.
 
I think I will start posting "What he said ??????" for now on when responding to a PR post. I'd rather have him dispute if I agree or disagree with him than dispute what or who is right or wrong. Funny part is, sometimes when someone agrees with him, the lawyer in him still finds something to question, dispute, rebuttal, etc. I think his lawyer traits work over time on egriz (not saying that is good or bad), just is very prevalent often.
 
Raider said:
Jeez, you had to repsond to the same post, twice, with two different rebuttals?

Insecure much, Jack?

You were repeating yourself, so I thought I should respond again in more simple words.

Haha. Insecurity is actually something no one has ever accused me of.
 
PlayerRep said:
Raider said:
Jeez, you had to repsond to the same post, twice, with two different rebuttals?

Insecure much, Jack?

You were repeating yourself, so I thought I should respond again in more simple words.

Haha. Insecurity is actually something no one has ever accused me of.

Thats because its so obvious its not necessary. Its one of the primary symptoms of a jock sniffer. They are constantantly explaining themselves and rationalizing their fetish to build their self image with a false bravado. In their own mind they are always right and everyone eles is wrong.
 
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