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[SoldierGriz]

Can you point to where I defended the defense? Find what?

What sounds like a mess is the weird coaching tree going on at UM. You need to figure that lethargic offense out if you don’t wanna place towards the middle of the pack again.

Enjoy starting out 5-0 though. Hopefully the pollsters take the bait again before October.

You're actually comparing us promoting Bradford to DC and Pease to OC to three of your coaches being arrested, one for his third DUI? Help me understand this. Most fans I know are excited about our promotions. Are you suggesting bobcat nation is actually excited about your coaches legal woes?

Minus a few, cat fans are ambivalent to their coaching situation - including several who bring their stench to this board.

 

[CatsRback]

Oh I’m sure. Lemme guess, this is the best culmination of talent BH has put together. You’ve got your QB and won’t make the same mistakes as last year.

I didn't say best culmination of talent. Just best balanced since Covid. We are deep on offense, and we will have the most continuity on the line we have had in years. We are also crazy deep at both RB and WR.

But you didn't answer my question. What is weird about our coaching tree?

Where are you deep on offense? Is this the same offense that will crumple under a lack luster QB? You aren’t deep anywhere. Stop.

 

[ElrodGrizzly]

I didn't say best culmination of talent. Just best balanced since Covid. We are deep on offense, and we will have the most continuity on the line we have had in years. We are also crazy deep at both RB and WR.

But you didn't answer my question. What is weird about our coaching tree?

Where are you deep on offense? Is this the same offense that will crumple under a lack luster QB? You aren’t deep anywhere. Stop.

I listed two specific positions.... they ain't teechin' that gud reedin' over yonder, eh? (I figured phonetic spelling might help)

 

[mcg]

So do I understand correctly that Mr. Garza was hired as bozeman DC with a resume that featured 2 DUI convictions and some sort of major recruiting violation? Seems like the root cause here is whoever decided that looks like the profile of a successful college football coach.

 

[HookedonGriz]

I didn't say best culmination of talent. Just best balanced since Covid. We are deep on offense, and we will have the most continuity on the line we have had in years. We are also crazy deep at both RB and WR.

But you didn't answer my question. What is weird about our coaching tree?

Where are you deep on offense? Is this the same offense that will crumple under a lack luster QB? You aren’t deep anywhere. Stop.

Your momma would beg to differ…..

 

[mthoopsfan]

I didn't say best culmination of talent. Just best balanced since Covid. We are deep on offense, and we will have the most continuity on the line we have had in years. We are also crazy deep at both RB and WR.

But you didn't answer my question. What is weird about our coaching tree?

Where are you deep on offense? Is this the same offense that will crumple under a lack luster QB? You aren’t deep anywhere. Stop.

Deep everywhere on offense. Only question is how good will the top QB’s be.

 

[CatsRback]

Where are you deep on offense? Is this the same offense that will crumple under a lack luster QB? You aren’t deep anywhere. Stop.

I listed two specific positions.... they ain't teechin' that gud reedin' over yonder, eh? (I figured phonetic spelling might help)

You can list whatever you want. Doesn’t make them “deep”. You’ve got one hand me down player who you’re obsessed with in #5. But I don’t see the stats to prove it. Your OL was middle of the pack at best last year but somehow is going to be great and deep? Where’s the depth past the starting 5? For example MSU lost its whole side of the line and still had the #2 rushing offense with a 5th string RB. That’s depth.

 

[CatsRback]

Where are you deep on offense? Is this the same offense that will crumple under a lack luster QB? You aren’t deep anywhere. Stop.

Deep everywhere on offense. Only question is how good will the top QB’s be.

Where’s the depth? Also, you find SDSU on a map yet?

All you complain about is being “1 QB away” that’s not depth. What if he gets “hurt” again?

 

[ElrodGrizzly]

I listed two specific positions.... they ain't teechin' that gud reedin' over yonder, eh? (I figured phonetic spelling might help)

You can list whatever you want. Doesn’t make them “deep”. You’ve got one hand me down player who you’re obsessed with in #5. But I don’t see the stats to prove it. Your OL was middle of the pack at best last year but somehow is going to be great and deep? Where’s the depth past the starting 5? For example MSU lost its whole side of the line and still had the #2 rushing offense with a 5th string RB. That’s depth.

The point was that I listed where we were deep, and you responded with "where are you deep?" You can disagree about our depth, sure, but that doesn't change your reading comprehension.

To your points, I don't know why you think I'm obsessed with #5? Bergen? And how is he a hand me down? Sorry he didn't like your coaching staff and changed his mind about coming to your school.... Again, I think you have some cognitive issues leaving you confused or some reading comprehension issues.

As for the rest, kind of pointless when your response will just be "nuh-uh, Grizzlies sucks." We'll see you in November.

 

[CatsRback]

You can list whatever you want. Doesn’t make them “deep”. You’ve got one hand me down player who you’re obsessed with in #5. But I don’t see the stats to prove it. Your OL was middle of the pack at best last year but somehow is going to be great and deep? Where’s the depth past the starting 5? For example MSU lost its whole side of the line and still had the #2 rushing offense with a 5th string RB. That’s depth.

The point was that I listed where we were deep, and you responded with "where are you deep?" You can disagree about our depth, sure, but that doesn't change your reading comprehension.

To your points, I don't know why you think I'm obsessed with #5? Bergen? And how is he a hand me down? Sorry he didn't like your coaching staff and changed his mind about coming to your school.... Again, I think you have some cognitive issues leaving you confused or some reading comprehension issues.

As for the rest, kind of pointless when your response will just be "nuh-uh, Grizzlies sucks." We'll see you in November.

Some kids dont like being told they won’t be a starter. You listed you have “depth” to which I replied that you do not have depth. Which if you want to look at it comparatively, um doesn’t. You return a mediocre O-line based on last years production (6th in total offense, 7th in YPC and total rush yards). You return slightly above average RB’s but you don’t return a top 10 yard getter, we return 3. (not sure how rest of BSC looks). You don’t have a returning starting QB. Your WR core is average at best based again on production. Your honorable mention TE might be out for the year. You have a new OC. Sure, an easier schedule might lead to inflated numbers to start the year. But to say you have “depth” isn’t an accurate statement. Who do you have past what I listed? A good stadium?

 

[#15 Fan]

I listed two specific positions.... they ain't teechin' that gud reedin' over yonder, eh? (I figured phonetic spelling might help)

You can list whatever you want. Doesn’t make them “deep”. You’ve got one hand me down player who you’re obsessed with in #5. But I don’t see the stats to prove it. Your OL was middle of the pack at best last year but somehow is going to be great and deep? Where’s the depth past the starting 5? For example MSU lost its whole side of the line and still had the #2 rushing offense with a 5th string RB. That’s depth.

Yet you guys ranked 87th in passing offense in yds/game....HORRIBLE offensive line if you ask me. See, I can cherry-pick stats too....saying your line is deep cuz you ran the ball 50+ times a game to get the yards you did doesn't prove much. Yea, you guys had a helluva rushing offense, but that's like saying Army or Air Force has the best OL cuz they also ranked high in rushing offense :roll:

 

[CatsRback]

You can list whatever you want. Doesn’t make them “deep”. You’ve got one hand me down player who you’re obsessed with in #5. But I don’t see the stats to prove it. Your OL was middle of the pack at best last year but somehow is going to be great and deep? Where’s the depth past the starting 5? For example MSU lost its whole side of the line and still had the #2 rushing offense with a 5th string RB. That’s depth.

Yet you guys ranked 87th in passing offense in yds/game....HORRIBLE offensive line if you ask me. See, I can cherry-pick stats too....saying your line is deep cuz you ran the ball 50+ times a game to get the yards you did doesn't prove much. Yea, you guys had a helluva rushing offense, but that's like saying Army or Air Force has the best OL cuz they also ranked high in rushing offense :roll:

Why pass when you can average 6.5 YPC on the ground? Teams knew we would run (including BH, you saw the post game). And we still averaged a First down every two plays. We also passed the ball for an 8.4 average (#2 in the BSC). MSU averaged 7.1 yards per play (#1) to UM 5.0 (#9). MSU also generated the most yards on offense last year. Shall we continue?

 

[uofmman1122]

Yet you guys ranked 87th in passing offense in yds/game....HORRIBLE offensive line if you ask me. See, I can cherry-pick stats too....saying your line is deep cuz you ran the ball 50+ times a game to get the yards you did doesn't prove much. Yea, you guys had a helluva rushing offense, but that's like saying Army or Air Force has the best OL cuz they also ranked high in rushing offense :roll:

Why pass when you can average 6.5 YPC on the ground? Teams knew we would run (including BH, you saw the post game). And we still averaged a First down every two plays. We also passed the ball for an 8.4 average (#2 in the BSC). MSU averaged 7.1 yards per play (#1) to UM 5.0 (#9). MSU also generated the most yards on offense last year. Shall we continue?

Despite such an amazing rushing offense and running QBs, you gave up more sacks per attempt than we did by a good margin. You guys were pretty damn good at running the ball, but our OL was better at pass protection. IMO, the biggest factor in your running success was Mellot and Chambers, not your OL. They both run that offense incredibly well.

 

[EverettGriz]

catsRdrunk is about as sharp as a marble.

 

[3-7-77]

Great analogy! :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[CatsRback]

Why pass when you can average 6.5 YPC on the ground? Teams knew we would run (including BH, you saw the post game). And we still averaged a First down every two plays. We also passed the ball for an 8.4 average (#2 in the BSC). MSU averaged 7.1 yards per play (#1) to UM 5.0 (#9). MSU also generated the most yards on offense last year. Shall we continue?

Despite such an amazing rushing offense and running QBs, you gave up more sacks per attempt than we did by a good margin. You guys were pretty damn good at running the ball, but our OL was better at pass protection. IMO, the biggest factor in your running success was Mellot and Chambers, not your OL. They both run that offense incredibly well.

I can’t find that stat so I’m not sure what it all entails. However based on our QB’s always trying to extend the play. I’m guessing that stat could have some truth. It still doesn’t change the fact MSU has more offensive line depth based on last years rotation, production, and returning players.

 

[ElrodGrizzly]

Despite such an amazing rushing offense and running QBs, you gave up more sacks per attempt than we did by a good margin. You guys were pretty damn good at running the ball, but our OL was better at pass protection. IMO, the biggest factor in your running success was Mellot and Chambers, not your OL. They both run that offense incredibly well.

I can’t find that stat so I’m not sure what it all entails. However based on our QB’s always trying to extend the play. I’m guessing that stat could have some truth. It still doesn’t change the fact MSU has more offensive line depth based on last years rotation, production, and returning players.

Nobody has said that you don't have more depth on your offensive line... Nobody has said we have more depth on the offensive line than the Cats. Your ability to post makes me think you can read and write, but the content of your posts then gives me doubt.

 

[uofmman1122]

Despite such an amazing rushing offense and running QBs, you gave up more sacks per attempt than we did by a good margin. You guys were pretty damn good at running the ball, but our OL was better at pass protection. IMO, the biggest factor in your running success was Mellot and Chambers, not your OL. They both run that offense incredibly well.

I can’t find that stat so I’m not sure what it all entails. However based on our QB’s always trying to extend the play. I’m guessing that stat could have some truth. It still doesn’t change the fact MSU has more offensive line depth based on last years rotation, production, and returning players.

Those things have nothing to do with depth. If you're suggesting that the starters last year were good enough to overcome the loss of your players from 2021, that's definitely true. If you're suggesting those stats mean that the players behind your starters last year were better than those on other teams, you can't prove that. That is what Elrod meant when he said depth. We have a really good OL that's a little top heavy, but the 6th and 7th guys on the line proved last year that they could come in and perform.

I know you can't ever admit that the Griz are good at anything, but it's coming off exactly as Elrod suggested several posts ago with your "nu-uh the Griz suck" schtick.

Also, sacks per attempt is easy to find.

We gave up 19 sacks last year on 391 attempts. You gave up 18 sacks on 309 attempts.

 

[CatsRback]

I can’t find that stat so I’m not sure what it all entails. However based on our QB’s always trying to extend the play. I’m guessing that stat could have some truth. It still doesn’t change the fact MSU has more offensive line depth based on last years rotation, production, and returning players.

Nobody has said that you don't have more depth on your offensive line... Nobody has said we have more depth on the offensive line than the Cats. Your ability to post makes me think you can read and write, but the content of your posts then gives me doubt.

You rip on me for content in my posts, yet you can’t defend the “depth” you have on the O-line and at the RB/ WR spots. So I give you examples of depth.

Carry on.

 

[CatsRback]

I can’t find that stat so I’m not sure what it all entails. However based on our QB’s always trying to extend the play. I’m guessing that stat could have some truth. It still doesn’t change the fact MSU has more offensive line depth based on last years rotation, production, and returning players.

Those things have nothing to do with depth. If you're suggesting that the starters last year were good enough to overcome the loss of your players from 2021, that's definitely true. If you're suggesting those stats mean that the players behind your starters last year were better than those on other teams, you can't prove that. That is what Elrod meant when he said depth. We have a really good OL that's a little top heavy, but the 6th and 7th guys on the line proved last year that they could come in and perform.

I know you can't ever admit that the Griz are good at anything, but it's coming off exactly as Elrod suggested several posts ago with your "nu-uh the Griz suck" schtick.

Also, sacks per attempt is easy to find.

We gave up 19 sacks last year on 391 attempts. You gave up 18 sacks on 309 attempts.

Interesting, nice find, saw how you dug that up. Okay well you can have that one I suppose. If that’s the one leg you want to stand on.

While I can’t definitively prove it, Based on production from our OL backups to continue operating the best offense in the FCS, I can suggest that with some merit.

Me disputing Elrod saying the gris have a deep OL and RB or WR room on a whim doesn’t make me a “nu-uh the gris suck” poster.

I think the gris had a stellar defense in 2021. I think the gris special teams has always been stellar. That was a focal point for choate at MSU. Look how bad it hurt us in 2021.

However I won’t sit here and pretend like the gris magically have depth on offense. That’s just not true in the slightest. Now if you want to suggest “top heavy” we can debate that as you return 2 ALL-BSC to our 3. With UM having the only 1st team player, keep in mind the MSU line lost a lot of players to injury. (Depth).