Regular Season Predictions...

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Can we please keep politics out of just one thread!!!!!

I hope that was directed at the Canadian that started it.

Go Trump

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No, it was directed at every single poster on this board.

So............the liberal Canadian?

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[Atlanta Griz1]

Sorry I disagree with you greatly. You claimed they were one of the best run defenses in the nation as they ranked at 38th. That is not a good ranking IMO. It's definitely not a ranking where you'd claim it's one of the best in the nation. You got to be top 10 to stake that claim IMO. You also don't think the D can improve much because of some individual player stats for tackles and sacks. I also disagree with that assessment. Some improved D like play, a guy like Davidson being a Takai like run stuffer in the middle, and varied schemes and blitz packages by our new DC could make this defense better.....much better.

You want to see a good defense. Look no further than NDSU. It's why they won 5 in a row and have a very legit shot at 6. They are always top 5 in nation for main defensive stats (scoring, ypg, etc)

38th does indicate that we have an inability to stop the run. 2nd in the league does indicate that either.
Only three teams were over their average in yards per carry against us and two of them did it by 0.1 and 0.2 yards. The only team that we showed an inability to stop the run was PSU, which ran for 6.5 compared against us to 5.0 on the year. So we held 9 of the 12 teams below their season average. I would think it would be the opposite 3 of 12, if we truly had an inability to stop the run.

NDSU averaged 5.0, got 5.1 in first game
Liberty averaged 3.6, got 2.0 vs. UM
Poly averaged 5.5, got 4.3
NAU avg'd 4.0, got 1.7
UC-Davis avg'd 3.5, got 2.7
PSU avg'd 5.0, got 6.5
UND avg'd 5.1, got 5.3
WSU avg'd 4.3, got 4.1
ISU avg'd 3.8, got 3.0
EWU avg'd 3.8, got 2.4
MSU avg'd 5.2, got 5.1
SDSU avg'd 3.7, got 2.9
NDSU avg'd 5.0, got 4.5

If you want to look for improvement, why not look in an area where there's lots of room for improvement? The offense was 8th in scoring, 9th in total offense, 11th in rushing offense, 11th in passing. Defense was 4th, 2nd, 2nd and 3rd. If the offense can move up 3-4 spots in each of those and the defense can stay within 1-2 spots of what it was last year, we get better.

If you you think that being ranked "near" the top of a conference which never plays defense, and ranked only #38 in defense nationally, is gonna give us the ability to win a national championship, then I've got some waterfront property in Iraq to show you, and it is a veritable STEAL, my friend!

National championship? We haven't even won a conference championship due mainly to our lack of offensive production the last six years. Our defense has been just fine during that span, including last year. If you averaged out the last six years our defense would probably be No. 1 or No. 2 and our offense No. 6 or No. 7 in the conference. Starting in 2010 and running to last year the offense was 6th, 6th, 1st (2012 of all years was our best offensive showing the last six years), 3rd, 9th, and 6th. The defense over that same span was 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th, 2nd and 3rd.

Everyone seems to think our offense has been rocking, but it's been inconsistent. Yet there you are worried about the defense when our offense got shut down in all but one game against a good defense and that one game was NDSU, which was playing without its top cornerback against our pass-happy offense that they had no tape on.

Our two league losses were to Weber and PSU. Weber was first in total defense, PSU was second in scoring defense. We were shut down by NDSU, which has the best defense in the nation. Some of you think we would've beat So. Utah, another good defense, but based on how we played that probably would've been a loss. We only scored 23 on NAU, which has one of the worst defenses in the BSC. Eight games under 30 points. The defense only gave up over 30 four times. There's tons more examples.

We were 38th nationally (2nd in the BSC) in average yards per carry out of 125 teams, not yards per game, which isn't as meaningful of a stat as yards per carry. We played NDSU twice and the top five rushing teams in the BSC, which is probably the most high-powered offensive conference in the nation. Had we played in any other conference and not played NDSU twice, we'd easily be in the top 20. Several of the teams ahead of us are from very weak conferences. Our defense wasn't over the top outstanding, but it was more than adequate.

Please stop running with this false narrative that we need to improve on defense, when the facts clearly show that our offense has been our downfall.

Oh, so being "easily ranked in the Top 20 nationally on defense" is gonna get us to the national championship game? Guess again, dude. You just don't get it. In FCS, FBS, and in the NFL, the teams who win the chipper are ranked in the top 5 nationally in defense! The Denver Broncos were ranked #1. NDSU was ranked #1. Alabama was ranked #2. Figure it out!

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

So 10-15 should get it done in the Big Fluffy?

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[AllWeatherFan]

Defense wins championships. Well, that and scoring at least one point.

 

[EverettGriz]

Defense wins championships. Well, that and scoring at least one point.

Obviously you've never played the game.









I mean sure. Scoring a point helps. But ask cat fans about winning games with zero points.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I am going with 9-2 regular season. Struggles and inconsistent play early with new WR's and OL depth. They round into form the 2nd half of the season, and make a playoff run to final 8. Beyond that, depends on matchups. Our run defense will be improved. Our pass D will be inconsistent as well, due to lack of CB depth the 1st 6 games (fewer games depending on JR Nelson's appeal outcome).

The GRIZ running game will be much more consistent this season, and pick up the slack until the new WR's get in sync with the QB's. I hope to see Phillips get some valuable developmental time even with Gustafson healthy. If, WR play and OL depth are better earlier, we could very well be a top 4 seed for the playoffs.

 

[brewskis]

I am going with 9-2 regular season. Struggles and inconsistent play early with new WR's and OL depth. They round into form the 2nd half of the season, and make a playoff run to final 8. Beyond that, depends on matchups. Our run defense will be improved. Our pass D will be inconsistent as well, due to lack of CB depth the 1st 6 games (fewer games depending on JR Nelson's appeal outcome).

The GRIZ running game will be much more consistent this season, and pick up the slack until the new WR's get in sync with the QB's. I hope to see Phillips get some valuable developmental time even with Gustafson healthy. If, WR play and OL depth are better earlier, we could very well be a top 4 seed for the playoffs.

I think this really sums it up well. Our WRs are young, but we have never had this kind of speed and depth at the position. May take a little time to get their nerves about them, but I think we'll love what that group does. I could say the EXACT same thing for the LB position, unbelievable talent there.

We have the cornerbacks to get the job done, but not much room for error. Need everyone to stay healthy.

 

[PlayerRep]

I am going with 9-2 regular season. Struggles and inconsistent play early with new WR's and OL depth. They round into form the 2nd half of the season, and make a playoff run to final 8. Beyond that, depends on matchups. Our run defense will be improved. Our pass D will be inconsistent as well, due to lack of CB depth the 1st 6 games (fewer games depending on JR Nelson's appeal outcome).

The GRIZ running game will be much more consistent this season, and pick up the slack until the new WR's get in sync with the QB's. I hope to see Phillips get some valuable developmental time even with Gustafson healthy. If, WR play and OL depth are better earlier, we could very well be a top 4 seed for the playoffs.

I think this really sums it up well. Our WRs are young, but we have never had this kind of speed and depth at the position. May take a little time to get their nerves about them, but I think we'll love what that group does. I could say the EXACT same thing for the LB position, unbelievable talent there.

We have the cornerbacks to get the job done, but not much room for error. Need everyone to stay healthy.

Which receivers are faster than Henderson and Jones?

 

[getgrizzy]

I am going with 9-2 regular season. Struggles and inconsistent play early with new WR's and OL depth. They round into form the 2nd half of the season, and make a playoff run to final 8. Beyond that, depends on matchups. Our run defense will be improved. Our pass D will be inconsistent as well, due to lack of CB depth the 1st 6 games (fewer games depending on JR Nelson's appeal outcome).

The GRIZ running game will be much more consistent this season, and pick up the slack until the new WR's get in sync with the QB's. I hope to see Phillips get some valuable developmental time even with Gustafson healthy. If, WR play and OL depth are better earlier, we could very well be a top 4 seed for the playoffs.

I think this really sums it up well. Our WRs are young, but we have never had this kind of speed and depth at the position. May take a little time to get their nerves about them, but I think we'll love what that group does. I could say the EXACT same thing for the LB position, unbelievable talent there.

We have the cornerbacks to get the job done, but not much room for error. Need everyone to stay healthy.

Which receivers are faster than Henderson and Jones?

Probably quite a few in the 100 meters, but none are as quick. Henderson and Jones had great vision and instincts, so they had great quickness. Both were 4.6/4.7 40 yard and 11.2-11.3 100 meter guys. Not slow by any means, but not blazing.

 

[PlayerRep]

I am going with 9-2 regular season. Struggles and inconsistent play early with new WR's and OL depth. They round into form the 2nd half of the season, and make a playoff run to final 8. Beyond that, depends on matchups. Our run defense will be improved. Our pass D will be inconsistent as well, due to lack of CB depth the 1st 6 games (fewer games depending on JR Nelson's appeal outcome).

The GRIZ running game will be much more consistent this season, and pick up the slack until the new WR's get in sync with the QB's. I hope to see Phillips get some valuable developmental time even with Gustafson healthy. If, WR play and OL depth are better earlier, we could very well be a top 4 seed for the playoffs.

I think this really sums it up well. Our WRs are young, but we have never had this kind of speed and depth at the position. May take a little time to get their nerves about them, but I think we'll love what that group does. I could say the EXACT same thing for the LB position, unbelievable talent there.

We have the cornerbacks to get the job done, but not much room for error. Need everyone to stay healthy.

Which receivers are faster than Henderson and Jones?

Probably quite a few in the 100 meters, but none are as quick. Henderson and Jones had great vision and instincts, so they had great quickness. Both were 4.6/4.7 40 yard and 11.2-11.3 100 meter guys. Not slow by any means, but not blazing.

Henderson and Jones were faster than that. Their speed was up there close to Van. Note that both hurt their hamstrings on or before pro day, so those times were slower. Looks like Jones ran a 4.59 on pro day. Think Henderson was faster than Jones. My info came from the grapevine of players and coaches.

 

[Grisly Fan]

I am going with 9-2 regular season. Struggles and inconsistent play early with new WR's and OL depth. They round into form the 2nd half of the season, and make a playoff run to final 8. Beyond that, depends on matchups. Our run defense will be improved. Our pass D will be inconsistent as well, due to lack of CB depth the 1st 6 games (fewer games depending on JR Nelson's appeal outcome).

The GRIZ running game will be much more consistent this season, and pick up the slack until the new WR's get in sync with the QB's. I hope to see Phillips get some valuable developmental time even with Gustafson healthy. If, WR play and OL depth are better earlier, we could very well be a top 4 seed for the playoffs.

I think this really sums it up well. Our WRs are young, but we have never had this kind of speed and depth at the position. May take a little time to get their nerves about them, but I think we'll love what that group does. I could say the EXACT same thing for the LB position, unbelievable talent there.

We have the cornerbacks to get the job done, but not much room for error. Need everyone to stay healthy.

Which receivers are faster than Henderson and Jones?

I dunno, just spitballin' here but perhaps he meant what he wrote "speed and depth" as in both at the same time. The Griz have had some very fast receivers no doubt but the point I believe is that they have very fast receivers and more than ever at one time. I don't know that it is true but to try to refute the statement by naming two really fast past players kind of misses the point.

 

[Yukon]

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[PlayerRep]

I am going with 9-2 regular season. Struggles and inconsistent play early with new WR's and OL depth. They round into form the 2nd half of the season, and make a playoff run to final 8. Beyond that, depends on matchups. Our run defense will be improved. Our pass D will be inconsistent as well, due to lack of CB depth the 1st 6 games (fewer games depending on JR Nelson's appeal outcome).

The GRIZ running game will be much more consistent this season, and pick up the slack until the new WR's get in sync with the QB's. I hope to see Phillips get some valuable developmental time even with Gustafson healthy. If, WR play and OL depth are better earlier, we could very well be a top 4 seed for the playoffs.

I think this really sums it up well. Our WRs are young, but we have never had this kind of speed and depth at the position. May take a little time to get their nerves about them, but I think we'll love what that group does. I could say the EXACT same thing for the LB position, unbelievable talent there.

We have the cornerbacks to get the job done, but not much room for error. Need everyone to stay healthy.

Which receivers are faster than Henderson and Jones?

I dunno, just spitballin' here but perhaps he meant what he wrote "speed and depth" as in both at the same time. The Griz have had some very fast receivers no doubt but the point I believe is that they have very fast receivers and more than ever at one time. I don't know that it is true but to try to refute the statement by naming two really fast past players kind of misses the point.

Grisly, I just asked a simple question. I wasn't making any point. I am curious as to which current receivers are faster than those 2. They were very fast, according to what I saw and heard. Note that I didn't disagree with speed and depth comment. and if I had, then I would understand and agree with your point.

Also, perhaps in a difference thread, Digger called Brew on his statement that indicated that Delaney had, or had recruited, slow receivers.

 

[brewskis]

Thank you Grisly Fan, you hit it on the head. The depth we're developing at WR is incredibly talented and athletic.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I am going with 9-2 regular season. Struggles and inconsistent play early with new WR's and OL depth. They round into form the 2nd half of the season, and make a playoff run to final 8. Beyond that, depends on matchups. Our run defense will be improved. Our pass D will be inconsistent as well, due to lack of CB depth the 1st 6 games (fewer games depending on JR Nelson's appeal outcome).

The GRIZ running game will be much more consistent this season, and pick up the slack until the new WR's get in sync with the QB's. I hope to see Phillips get some valuable developmental time even with Gustafson healthy. If, WR play and OL depth are better earlier, we could very well be a top 4 seed for the playoffs.

I think this really sums it up well. Our WRs are young, but we have never had this kind of speed and depth at the position. May take a little time to get their nerves about them, but I think we'll love what that group does. I could say the EXACT same thing for the LB position, unbelievable talent there.

We have the cornerbacks to get the job done, but not much room for error. Need everyone to stay healthy.

Which receivers are faster than Henderson and Jones?

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[rocklobster]

Go Clinton!

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

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Golly gee, #16??? Man, I am excited! :roll: :roll:

Because most of you have developed amnesia as our program spiraled down the past few years, it bears reminding you that from 1995 until Hauck left, the Griz were ranked no lower than #5 pre-season, and in most years were ranked in the top 3. That is a run of 20+ years. Now, because of the dumbing-down within the Griz Nation, we get excited about a #16 pre-season ranking!

Most of you now have expectations equal to Cat fans.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Now, because of the dumbing-down within the Griz Nation, we get excited about a #16 pre-season ranking!

I must have missed the posts where people expressed excitement about a #16 preseason ranking. Can you point them out?

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

Now, because of the dumbing-down within the Griz Nation, we get excited about a #16 pre-season ranking!

I must have missed the posts where people expressed excitement about a #16 preseason ranking. Can you point them out?

You miss most things cause you are glued to MSNBC all day long

 

[grizindabox]

Everyone that enjoys leaving in the past.....please raise your hand....ATL....you are first in line.....