Regular Season Predictions...

[WildThingsMT]

The Griz will do worse than last year I'm saying 6-5. The team they had last year had so much talent and they barely had a good season, this year they have way less talent and the same coaches. I don't see them being any better than Cal Poly or UC Davis this year. EWU goes #1 Cats go #2 with NAU and the Griz will be in towards the bottom-middle.

 

[getgrizzy]

Teams ran downhill when they needed to against us...we didn't make the stops we needed to at many critical times. Many examples. When watching last year - did you not cringe when you knew we needed a stop or 2, and just couldn't get it done as teams ran right at us? I know I did.

I am not suggesting we had the worst run-stopping defense in the history of the game. I am suggesting that the Griz need to improve here. We were very good on the edge...

Also - I don't hang my hat on allowing 3.9 ypg and finishing 2nd in the BSC...not a bunch of defense being played in our league as you know.

I blame a lot of our inability to stop the run on Ty G. He allowed too much free-lancing from his LBs, and they frequently over-ran plays allowing cut-backs into vacant gaps by running backs. Holmes did the same on many running plays, and teams ran right at him much of the time. He was great at pass rushing, and made lots of tackles for losses, but he also was schooled quite often on running plays. Great defensive teams defend their gaps, and when everyone does their job correctly, it is difficult for offenses to move the ball on them. Montana, under TG, did not play the level of disciplined team defense needed to be a great defense. Hopefully it will get better under Semore.

Everyone has an inability to stop the run in stretches, but our run defense was one of the best in the nation and our conference. It was 38th in the nation and tied for second (even if you take out the sacks and add the sack yards back in) in the Big Sky. We played the top five rush teams in the BSC and NDSU twice. Our defense was fourth (missed 3rd by 0.1) in scoring, 2nd in total defense, 2nd in run defense and 3rd in pass defense. So the run D was ranked higher than our pass D, which was very good also.

There's little room for improvement. Our stud DE is gone and he led the league in tackles by a DE. Our stud DT, who led the league in tackles by a DT, is moving to DE and we don't really know if he's as good as Holmes or if the guy replacing him will be as good as he was at DT. All our LBs are gone. To improve we'll need Kidder to be better than Holmes (FCS Def POY), new guy to be better than Kidder (1st team all BSC) and three new LBs to better than Kose 3rd team, Gamboa 1st team, and Van Ack 2nd team.

Sorry I disagree with you greatly. You claimed they were one of the best run defenses in the nation as they ranked at 38th. That is not a good ranking IMO. It's definitely not a ranking where you'd claim it's one of the best in the nation. You got to be top 10 to stake that claim IMO. You also don't think the D can improve much because of some individual player stats for tackles and sacks. I also disagree with that assessment. Some improved D like play, a guy like Davidson being a Takai like run stuffer in the middle, and varied schemes and blitz packages by our new DC could make this defense better.....much better.

You want to see a good defense. Look no further than NDSU. It's why they won 5 in a row and have a very legit shot at 6. They are always top 5 in nation for main defensive stats (scoring, ypg, etc)

38th does indicate that we have an inability to stop the run. 2nd in the league does indicate that either.
Only three teams were over their average in yards per carry against us and two of them did it by 0.1 and 0.2 yards. The only team that we showed an inability to stop the run was PSU, which ran for 6.5 compared against us to 5.0 on the year. So we held 9 of the 12 teams below their season average. I would think it would be the opposite 3 of 12, if we truly had an inability to stop the run.

NDSU averaged 5.0, got 5.1 in first game
Liberty averaged 3.6, got 2.0 vs. UM
Poly averaged 5.5, got 4.3
NAU avg'd 4.0, got 1.7
UC-Davis avg'd 3.5, got 2.7
PSU avg'd 5.0, got 6.5
UND avg'd 5.1, got 5.3
WSU avg'd 4.3, got 4.1
ISU avg'd 3.8, got 3.0
EWU avg'd 3.8, got 2.4
MSU avg'd 5.2, got 5.1
SDSU avg'd 3.7, got 2.9
NDSU avg'd 5.0, got 4.5

If you want to look for improvement, why not look in an area where there's lots of room for improvement? The offense was 8th in scoring, 9th in total offense, 11th in rushing offense, 11th in passing. Defense was 4th, 2nd, 2nd and 3rd. If the offense can move up 3-4 spots in each of those and the defense can stay within 1-2 spots of what it was last year, we get better.

 

[get'em_griz]

The Griz will do worse than last year I'm saying 6-5. The team they had last year had so much talent and they barely had a good season, this year they have way less talent and the same coaches. I don't see them being any better than Cal Poly or UC Davis this year. EWU goes #1 Cats go #2 with NAU and the Griz will be in towards the bottom-middle.

Welcome to the board. Amazing to see the Kitty delusion still exists after all these years.

 

[Grisly Fan]

The Griz will do worse than last year I'm saying 6-5. The team they had last year had so much talent and they barely had a good season, this year they have way less talent and the same coaches. I don't see them being any better than Cal Poly or UC Davis this year. EWU goes #1 Cats go #2 with NAU and the Griz will be in towards the bottom-middle.

Welcome to the board. Amazing to see the Kitty delusion still exists after all these years.

And ignorance to boot... "same coaches"

 

[mtgrizzly]

10-1 Loss to UNI. Much like with Glenn, year 2 could be special

God I hope you are right.

GO GRIZ!!

 

[Htowngriz]

The Griz will do worse than last year I'm saying 6-5. The team they had last year had so much talent and they barely had a good season, this year they have way less talent and the same coaches. I don't see them being any better than Cal Poly or UC Davis this year. EWU goes #1 Cats go #2 with NAU and the Griz will be in towards the bottom-middle.

 

[jcu27]

The Griz will do worse than last year I'm saying 6-5. The team they had last year had so much talent and they barely had a good season, this year they have way less talent and the same coaches. I don't see them being any better than Cal Poly or UC Davis this year. EWU goes #1 Cats go #2 with NAU and the Griz will be in towards the bottom-middle.

Lmao I think he got the cats and griz mixed up... Cats #2 is the funniest thing I've heard all year. POY candidate imo

 

[VimSince03]

The Griz will do worse than last year I'm saying 6-5. The team they had last year had so much talent and they barely had a good season, this year they have way less talent and the same coaches. I don't see them being any better than Cal Poly or UC Davis this year. EWU goes #1 Cats go #2 with NAU and the Griz will be in towards the bottom-middle.

Stealing this image. The internet is fun.

 

[Grisly Fan]

The Griz will do worse than last year I'm saying 6-5. The team they had last year had so much talent and they barely had a good season, this year they have way less talent and the same coaches. I don't see them being any better than Cal Poly or UC Davis this year. EWU goes #1 Cats go #2 with NAU and the Griz will be in towards the bottom-middle.

This post demonstrates a stunning lack of intelligence. Last year the Griz "had so much talent and barely had a good season" where apparently a loss in the second round of the playoffs suggests that they will do poorly this year yet the Cats had a truly crappy season last year, lost their all-world QB, and have a completely new coaching staff which suggests that they will have good season. :msugrad:

 

[EverettGriz]

I believe Wild simply misread the title of the thread as "Pre-Season Predictions".

 

[rocklobster]

11-0! One more year under their belts with an offense! No more Ty and getting beat by the big play! Gus stays healthy! More weapons than last year! O-line comes together! Kidder and Schye! If I'm wrong, we'll go 10-1! Go Griz!

 

[PhxGriz]

I believe Wild simply misread the title of the thread as "Pre-Season Predictions".

He's one of their backup posters and that is why he is so good.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

If you look at Craig Bohl's record at NDSU 2003-8 you see a guy who would have been skewered at UM, even had a losing record. It wasn't until he started getting D-1 lineman from UM and UW that the Bison took off. Stitt is getting D-1 caliber lineman on both sides and when they are in the trenches he will have Championship success. So let it be written. So let it be done . Till then superior speed wide outs will carry the load

 

[jodcon]

The Griz will do worse than last year I'm saying 6-5. The team they had last year had so much talent and they barely had a good season, this year they have way less talent and the same coaches. I don't see them being any better than Cal Poly or UC Davis this year. EWU goes #1 Cats go #2 with NAU and the Griz will be in towards the bottom-middle.

This seems like a legit June post for a Cat fan.

Stay tuned for reality when the leaves start falling.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

I blame a lot of our inability to stop the run on Ty G. He allowed too much free-lancing from his LBs, and they frequently over-ran plays allowing cut-backs into vacant gaps by running backs. Holmes did the same on many running plays, and teams ran right at him much of the time. He was great at pass rushing, and made lots of tackles for losses, but he also was schooled quite often on running plays. Great defensive teams defend their gaps, and when everyone does their job correctly, it is difficult for offenses to move the ball on them. Montana, under TG, did not play the level of disciplined team defense needed to be a great defense. Hopefully it will get better under Semore.

Everyone has an inability to stop the run in stretches, but our run defense was one of the best in the nation and our conference. It was 38th in the nation and tied for second (even if you take out the sacks and add the sack yards back in) in the Big Sky. We played the top five rush teams in the BSC and NDSU twice. Our defense was fourth (missed 3rd by 0.1) in scoring, 2nd in total defense, 2nd in run defense and 3rd in pass defense. So the run D was ranked higher than our pass D, which was very good also.

There's little room for improvement. Our stud DE is gone and he led the league in tackles by a DE. Our stud DT, who led the league in tackles by a DT, is moving to DE and we don't really know if he's as good as Holmes or if the guy replacing him will be as good as he was at DT. All our LBs are gone. To improve we'll need Kidder to be better than Holmes (FCS Def POY), new guy to be better than Kidder (1st team all BSC) and three new LBs to better than Kose 3rd team, Gamboa 1st team, and Van Ack 2nd team.

Sorry I disagree with you greatly. You claimed they were one of the best run defenses in the nation as they ranked at 38th. That is not a good ranking IMO. It's definitely not a ranking where you'd claim it's one of the best in the nation. You got to be top 10 to stake that claim IMO. You also don't think the D can improve much because of some individual player stats for tackles and sacks. I also disagree with that assessment. Some improved D like play, a guy like Davidson being a Takai like run stuffer in the middle, and varied schemes and blitz packages by our new DC could make this defense better.....much better.

You want to see a good defense. Look no further than NDSU. It's why they won 5 in a row and have a very legit shot at 6. They are always top 5 in nation for main defensive stats (scoring, ypg, etc)

38th does indicate that we have an inability to stop the run. 2nd in the league does indicate that either.
Only three teams were over their average in yards per carry against us and two of them did it by 0.1 and 0.2 yards. The only team that we showed an inability to stop the run was PSU, which ran for 6.5 compared against us to 5.0 on the year. So we held 9 of the 12 teams below their season average. I would think it would be the opposite 3 of 12, if we truly had an inability to stop the run.

NDSU averaged 5.0, got 5.1 in first game
Liberty averaged 3.6, got 2.0 vs. UM
Poly averaged 5.5, got 4.3
NAU avg'd 4.0, got 1.7
UC-Davis avg'd 3.5, got 2.7
PSU avg'd 5.0, got 6.5
UND avg'd 5.1, got 5.3
WSU avg'd 4.3, got 4.1
ISU avg'd 3.8, got 3.0
EWU avg'd 3.8, got 2.4
MSU avg'd 5.2, got 5.1
SDSU avg'd 3.7, got 2.9
NDSU avg'd 5.0, got 4.5

If you want to look for improvement, why not look in an area where there's lots of room for improvement? The offense was 8th in scoring, 9th in total offense, 11th in rushing offense, 11th in passing. Defense was 4th, 2nd, 2nd and 3rd. If the offense can move up 3-4 spots in each of those and the defense can stay within 1-2 spots of what it was last year, we get better.

If you you think that being ranked "near" the top of a conference which never plays defense, and ranked only #38 in defense nationally, is gonna give us the ability to win a national championship, then I've got some waterfront property in Iraq to show you, and it is a veritable STEAL, my friend!

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Everyone has an inability to stop the run in stretches, but our run defense was one of the best in the nation and our conference. It was 38th in the nation and tied for second (even if you take out the sacks and add the sack yards back in) in the Big Sky. We played the top five rush teams in the BSC and NDSU twice. Our defense was fourth (missed 3rd by 0.1) in scoring, 2nd in total defense, 2nd in run defense and 3rd in pass defense. So the run D was ranked higher than our pass D, which was very good also.

There's little room for improvement. Our stud DE is gone and he led the league in tackles by a DE. Our stud DT, who led the league in tackles by a DT, is moving to DE and we don't really know if he's as good as Holmes or if the guy replacing him will be as good as he was at DT. All our LBs are gone. To improve we'll need Kidder to be better than Holmes (FCS Def POY), new guy to be better than Kidder (1st team all BSC) and three new LBs to better than Kose 3rd team, Gamboa 1st team, and Van Ack 2nd team.

Sorry I disagree with you greatly. You claimed they were one of the best run defenses in the nation as they ranked at 38th. That is not a good ranking IMO. It's definitely not a ranking where you'd claim it's one of the best in the nation. You got to be top 10 to stake that claim IMO. You also don't think the D can improve much because of some individual player stats for tackles and sacks. I also disagree with that assessment. Some improved D like play, a guy like Davidson being a Takai like run stuffer in the middle, and varied schemes and blitz packages by our new DC could make this defense better.....much better.

You want to see a good defense. Look no further than NDSU. It's why they won 5 in a row and have a very legit shot at 6. They are always top 5 in nation for main defensive stats (scoring, ypg, etc)

38th does indicate that we have an inability to stop the run. 2nd in the league does indicate that either.
Only three teams were over their average in yards per carry against us and two of them did it by 0.1 and 0.2 yards. The only team that we showed an inability to stop the run was PSU, which ran for 6.5 compared against us to 5.0 on the year. So we held 9 of the 12 teams below their season average. I would think it would be the opposite 3 of 12, if we truly had an inability to stop the run.

NDSU averaged 5.0, got 5.1 in first game
Liberty averaged 3.6, got 2.0 vs. UM
Poly averaged 5.5, got 4.3
NAU avg'd 4.0, got 1.7
UC-Davis avg'd 3.5, got 2.7
PSU avg'd 5.0, got 6.5
UND avg'd 5.1, got 5.3
WSU avg'd 4.3, got 4.1
ISU avg'd 3.8, got 3.0
EWU avg'd 3.8, got 2.4
MSU avg'd 5.2, got 5.1
SDSU avg'd 3.7, got 2.9
NDSU avg'd 5.0, got 4.5

If you want to look for improvement, why not look in an area where there's lots of room for improvement? The offense was 8th in scoring, 9th in total offense, 11th in rushing offense, 11th in passing. Defense was 4th, 2nd, 2nd and 3rd. If the offense can move up 3-4 spots in each of those and the defense can stay within 1-2 spots of what it was last year, we get better.

If you you think that being ranked "near" the top of a conference which never plays defense, and ranked only #38 in defense nationally, is gonna give us the ability to win a national championship, then I've got some waterfront property in Iraq to show you, and it is a veritable STEAL, my friend!

Ranked 38th against the run? Getgrizzy you need to get back on FCSinsider.com and review the 2015 rankings again..... I do think the run D will be better this year though.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Can we please keep politics out of just one thread!!!!!

I hope that was directed at the Canadian that started it.

Go Trump

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[Yukon]

Can we please keep politics out of just one thread!!!!!

I hope that was directed at the Canadian that started it.

Go Trump

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Yes, Go Trump!

Now, back to football.

 

['68griz]

Can we please keep politics out of just one thread!!!!!

I hope that was directed at the Canadian that started it.

Go Trump

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No, it was directed at every single poster on this board.

 

[getgrizzy]

Everyone has an inability to stop the run in stretches, but our run defense was one of the best in the nation and our conference. It was 38th in the nation and tied for second (even if you take out the sacks and add the sack yards back in) in the Big Sky. We played the top five rush teams in the BSC and NDSU twice. Our defense was fourth (missed 3rd by 0.1) in scoring, 2nd in total defense, 2nd in run defense and 3rd in pass defense. So the run D was ranked higher than our pass D, which was very good also.

There's little room for improvement. Our stud DE is gone and he led the league in tackles by a DE. Our stud DT, who led the league in tackles by a DT, is moving to DE and we don't really know if he's as good as Holmes or if the guy replacing him will be as good as he was at DT. All our LBs are gone. To improve we'll need Kidder to be better than Holmes (FCS Def POY), new guy to be better than Kidder (1st team all BSC) and three new LBs to better than Kose 3rd team, Gamboa 1st team, and Van Ack 2nd team.

Sorry I disagree with you greatly. You claimed they were one of the best run defenses in the nation as they ranked at 38th. That is not a good ranking IMO. It's definitely not a ranking where you'd claim it's one of the best in the nation. You got to be top 10 to stake that claim IMO. You also don't think the D can improve much because of some individual player stats for tackles and sacks. I also disagree with that assessment. Some improved D like play, a guy like Davidson being a Takai like run stuffer in the middle, and varied schemes and blitz packages by our new DC could make this defense better.....much better.

You want to see a good defense. Look no further than NDSU. It's why they won 5 in a row and have a very legit shot at 6. They are always top 5 in nation for main defensive stats (scoring, ypg, etc)

38th does indicate that we have an inability to stop the run. 2nd in the league does indicate that either.
Only three teams were over their average in yards per carry against us and two of them did it by 0.1 and 0.2 yards. The only team that we showed an inability to stop the run was PSU, which ran for 6.5 compared against us to 5.0 on the year. So we held 9 of the 12 teams below their season average. I would think it would be the opposite 3 of 12, if we truly had an inability to stop the run.

NDSU averaged 5.0, got 5.1 in first game
Liberty averaged 3.6, got 2.0 vs. UM
Poly averaged 5.5, got 4.3
NAU avg'd 4.0, got 1.7
UC-Davis avg'd 3.5, got 2.7
PSU avg'd 5.0, got 6.5
UND avg'd 5.1, got 5.3
WSU avg'd 4.3, got 4.1
ISU avg'd 3.8, got 3.0
EWU avg'd 3.8, got 2.4
MSU avg'd 5.2, got 5.1
SDSU avg'd 3.7, got 2.9
NDSU avg'd 5.0, got 4.5

If you want to look for improvement, why not look in an area where there's lots of room for improvement? The offense was 8th in scoring, 9th in total offense, 11th in rushing offense, 11th in passing. Defense was 4th, 2nd, 2nd and 3rd. If the offense can move up 3-4 spots in each of those and the defense can stay within 1-2 spots of what it was last year, we get better.

If you you think that being ranked "near" the top of a conference which never plays defense, and ranked only #38 in defense nationally, is gonna give us the ability to win a national championship, then I've got some waterfront property in Iraq to show you, and it is a veritable STEAL, my friend!

National championship? We haven't even won a conference championship due mainly to our lack of offensive production the last six years. Our defense has been just fine during that span, including last year. If you averaged out the last six years our defense would probably be No. 1 or No. 2 and our offense No. 6 or No. 7 in the conference. Starting in 2010 and running to last year the offense was 6th, 6th, 1st (2012 of all years was our best offensive showing the last six years), 3rd, 9th, and 6th. The defense over that same span was 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th, 2nd and 3rd.

Everyone seems to think our offense has been rocking, but it's been inconsistent. Yet there you are worried about the defense when our offense got shut down in all but one game against a good defense and that one game was NDSU, which was playing without its top cornerback against our pass-happy offense that they had no tape on.

Our two league losses were to Weber and PSU. Weber was first in total defense, PSU was second in scoring defense. We were shut down by NDSU, which has the best defense in the nation. Some of you think we would've beat So. Utah, another good defense, but based on how we played that probably would've been a loss. We only scored 23 on NAU, which has one of the worst defenses in the BSC. Eight games under 30 points. The defense only gave up over 30 four times. There's tons more examples.

We were 38th nationally (2nd in the BSC) in average yards per carry out of 125 teams, not yards per game, which isn't as meaningful of a stat as yards per carry. We played NDSU twice and the top five rushing teams in the BSC, which is probably the most high-powered offensive conference in the nation. Had we played in any other conference and not played NDSU twice, we'd easily be in the top 20. Several of the teams ahead of us are from very weak conferences. Our defense wasn't over the top outstanding, but it was more than adequate.

Please stop running with this false narrative that we need to improve on defense, when the facts clearly show that our offense has been our downfall.