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Questions for the GFP tonight

BadlandsGrizFan said:
Is this the worst Griz offensive line we can remember?

Also how obvious is the blitzing LB on defense. They seem to get stoned by whichever guard they run at. Are we not just wasting the numbers game which inefficient blitzing?

What front do you want to play?
 
How about Ryder Meyer and that play that sealed the game? First of all it was a helluva play. Will it be the play that saves the Griz season?
 
mtgriz said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Is this the worst Griz offensive line we can remember?

Also how obvious is the blitzing LB on defense. They seem to get stoned by whichever guard they run at. Are we not just wasting the numbers game which inefficient blitzing?

It may help by keeping a guard from doubling Gub. It’s one part of the eleven parts.

Maybe so but it’s not working regardless of what it’s supposed to be doing
 
Missoula223 said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Is this the worst Griz offensive line we can remember?

Also how obvious is the blitzing LB on defense. They seem to get stoned by whichever guard they run at. Are we not just wasting the numbers game which inefficient blitzing?

What front do you want to play?

Idk. If everyone believe what everyone on Egriz says about how we struggle to find bigger bodies on the defensive line I guess an over probably makes more sense.

But I don’t know if I really believe that. MSU seems to find those big DTs Montana has always historically had very fast explosive DEs except right now. I’m not a DLine coach. Not my job to figure out what we should play Vs personnel that we have on roster.

All I know is what we currently are doing is generating zero pressure.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Missoula223 said:
What front do you want to play?

Idk. If everyone believe what everyone on Egriz says about how we struggle to find bigger bodies on the defensive line I guess an over probably makes more sense.

But I don’t know if I really believe that. MSU seems to find those big DTs Montana has always historically had very fast explosive DEs except right now. I’m not a DLine coach. Not my job to figure out what we should play Vs personnel that we have on roster.

All I know is what we currently are doing is generating zero pressure.

Zero sacks. Some pressure.
 
mthoopsfan said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Idk. If everyone believe what everyone on Egriz says about how we struggle to find bigger bodies on the defensive line I guess an over probably makes more sense.

But I don’t know if I really believe that. MSU seems to find those big DTs Montana has always historically had very fast explosive DEs except right now. I’m not a DLine coach. Not my job to figure out what we should play Vs personnel that we have on roster.

All I know is what we currently are doing is generating zero pressure.

Zero sacks. Some pressure.

It appears non existent. We used to have teams that regularly got 5-6 sacks a game.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
mthoopsfan said:
Zero sacks. Some pressure.

It appears non existent. We used to have teams that regularly got 5-6 sacks a game.

When you say we “used to” is that the last couple of years, or prior to Hauck’s return?

Pre-Hauck we used to have 4 man fronts with DE’s being a disruptive force that we relied on for pass rush and an occasional blitz.

With the 3-3-5 Kent was a big proponent of overloading the offense by bringing all 6 guys regularly in different schemes and relying on pressure to force the qb to take the sack or make the throw under pressure to force errors. Occasionally we got burned for some big plays. There was a lot of close calls over the top as well and our safeties were expected to play up towards the line of scrimmage for running and passing downs. I believe the constant blitz schemes forced us to sell out and not remain gap sound.

It seems like Bradford, with his background playing and coaching the secondary, is much more content allowing our linebacker and defensive backs to play a variety of coverages and only bring one or two blitzers. It is a bend but don’t break mentality. Our safeties our nowhere near the line like they were with Kent and we have a few different zone schemes we never saw with Kent. As we have seen teams can pick away at these zones and move the ball. Gap integrity and alignment seem to be better. We seem to be as effective against the run, but we haven’t played a good enough running team to see if we actually are.

Overall our speed is not the same this year on defense in the linebacking core (except maybe Wilson) as it was the last couple of years. We might have more speed in the secondary when you look at Gradney, Cotton, Lee and Nash than we had previously. It’s hard to compare our corners to Justin Ford. We for sure don’t have a lockdown corner this year. Seems like Bradford is playing yo the strengths of this team. I don’t know how he would call this defense with the the players we had the last 2 years.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Missoula223 said:
What front do you want to play?

Idk. If everyone believe what everyone on Egriz says about how we struggle to find bigger bodies on the defensive line I guess an over probably makes more sense.

But I don’t know if I really believe that. MSU seems to find those big DTs Montana has always historically had very fast explosive DEs except right now. I’m not a DLine coach. Not my job to figure out what we should play Vs personnel that we have on roster.

All I know is what we currently are doing is generating zero pressure.

“ The 3-3-5 is once again coaching negligence. It has zero benefits because we can’t get pressure. ”

“ We’re literally wasting any numbers advantage with this defense.”

These are your quotes in a previous thread. You’re obviously pretending to know what kind of defense to play. If the 3-3-5 is coaching negligence, what is your solution? Or do you just like to complain?

I’m not an advocate for the 3-3-5. I’m not even saying what we are doing on defense is working. But if the scheme itself is so terrible, which you’ve informed us multiple times is the case, please enlighten us with some of your stout football knowledge.
 
Missoula223 said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Idk. If everyone believe what everyone on Egriz says about how we struggle to find bigger bodies on the defensive line I guess an over probably makes more sense.

But I don’t know if I really believe that. MSU seems to find those big DTs Montana has always historically had very fast explosive DEs except right now. I’m not a DLine coach. Not my job to figure out what we should play Vs personnel that we have on roster.

All I know is what we currently are doing is generating zero pressure.

“ The 3-3-5 is once again coaching negligence. It has zero benefits because we can’t get pressure. ”

“ We’re literally wasting any numbers advantage with this defense.”

These are your quotes in a previous thread. You’re obviously pretending to know what kind of defense to play. If the 3-3-5 is coaching negligence, what is your solution? Or do you just like to complain?

I’m not an advocate for the 3-3-5. I’m not even saying what we are doing on defense is working. But if the scheme itself is so terrible, which you’ve informed us multiple times is the case, please enlighten us with some of your stout football knowledge.

You’re obviously just a football genius…I mean stalker. I’m
Not a coach you fvck. It’s not hard to realize the 3-3-5 isn’t working. If you’re asking me to recruit and scheme day to day against other teams in the big sky I’m
Sorry. I have a day job. I’m not paid 200-300k to win football games you dense fvck
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Missoula223 said:
“ The 3-3-5 is once again coaching negligence. It has zero benefits because we can’t get pressure. ”

“ We’re literally wasting any numbers advantage with this defense.”

These are your quotes in a previous thread. You’re obviously pretending to know what kind of defense to play. If the 3-3-5 is coaching negligence, what is your solution? Or do you just like to complain?

I’m not an advocate for the 3-3-5. I’m not even saying what we are doing on defense is working. But if the scheme itself is so terrible, which you’ve informed us multiple times is the case, please enlighten us with some of your stout football knowledge.

You’re obviously just a football genius…I mean stalker. I’m
Not a coach you fvck. It’s not hard to realize the 3-3-5 isn’t working. If you’re asking me to recruit and scheme day to day against other teams in the big sky I’m
Sorry. I have a day job. I’m not paid 200-300k to win football games you dense fvck

:cry: If you’re not a coach, why pretend to know football? Again, do you just like to complain?
 
Missoula223 said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
You’re obviously just a football genius…I mean stalker. I’m
Not a coach you fvck. It’s not hard to realize the 3-3-5 isn’t working. If you’re asking me to recruit and scheme day to day against other teams in the big sky I’m
Sorry. I have a day job. I’m not paid 200-300k to win football games you dense fvck

:cry: If you’re not a coach, why pretend to know football? Again, do you just like to complain?

I do know football. Do I know it to the level college coaches do. No. Do I know when what they’re doing isn’t working. Yes. It’s part of being a fan. Is this your first time?
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Missoula223 said:
:cry: If you’re not a coach, why pretend to know football? Again, do you just like to complain?

I do know football. Do I know it to the level college coaches do. No. Do I know when what they’re doing isn’t working. Yes. It’s part of being a fan. Is this your first time?

You dont. You can’t even describe the type of defensive front you want to play and why you want to play it. That’s not high level football knowledge.

You complain about our DBs being short and from Montana, which is totally and utterly false. And now you complain about a 3-3-5 despite not knowing another scheme to play or why the 3 down looks aren’t working. Do you not see the irony in either of those things?
 
Ut-Grizfan said:
Should we make it a Griz tradition moving forward if the OC decides to try and lose the game with God awful play calling to run out the clock and the DC thinks the Prevent Defense is a good idea, that we as a fan base have permission to tar, feather and duct tape them to a flag pole?

Felt like we did everything to help them those last few series.

:D
 
Missoula223 said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
I do know football. Do I know it to the level college coaches do. No. Do I know when what they’re doing isn’t working. Yes. It’s part of being a fan. Is this your first time?

You dont. You can’t even describe the type of defensive front you want to play and why you want to play it. That’s not high level football knowledge.

You complain about our DBs being short and from Montana, which is totally and utterly false. And now you complain about a 3-3-5 despite not knowing another scheme to play or why the 3 down looks aren’t working. Do you not see the irony in either of those things?

You tell me genius. Why isn’t the 3-3-5 working.

It doesn’t look like our 190 years of coaching experience know either. I’m sure you have it all figured out tho. Internet smart guy.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Missoula223 said:
You dont. You can’t even describe the type of defensive front you want to play and why you want to play it. That’s not high level football knowledge.

You complain about our DBs being short and from Montana, which is totally and utterly false. And now you complain about a 3-3-5 despite not knowing another scheme to play or why the 3 down looks aren’t working. Do you not see the irony in either of those things?

You tell me genius. Why isn’t the 3-3-5 working.

It doesn’t look like our 190 years of coaching experience know either. I’m sure you have it all figured out tho. Internet smart guy.

I’m not the one that claimed to?

You’re the one that suggested playing a 3-4 or 4-3 front despite those not even being fronts :D
 
Missoula223 said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
You tell me genius. Why isn’t the 3-3-5 working.

It doesn’t look like our 190 years of coaching experience know either. I’m sure you have it all figured out tho. Internet smart guy.

I’m not the one that claimed to?

You’re the one that suggested playing a 3-4 or 4-3 front despite those not even being fronts :D

I suggested playing those base defenses and you said what front would you play. And then continue to stalk me like a weirdo online.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Missoula223 said:
I’m not the one that claimed to?

You’re the one that suggested playing a 3-4 or 4-3 front despite those not even being fronts :D

I suggested playing those base defenses and you said what front would you play. And then continue to stalk me like a weirdo online.

Because you don’t know or understand anything about football past the buzzwords you see on twitter or wherever you get your limited wealth of knowledge.

It’s a public fan forum dude. When you say stupid shit, you’re going to get called out.
 
Missoula223 said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
I suggested playing those base defenses and you said what front would you play. And then continue to stalk me like a weirdo online.

Because you don’t know or understand anything about football past the buzzwords you see on twitter or wherever you get your limited wealth of knowledge.

It’s a public fan forum dude. When you say stupid shit, you’re going to get called out.

Nothing about what I said was stupid. I said the 3-3-5 sucks. It hasn’t gotten us anywhere. Suggested any other base defense. You know like the 3-3-5 is. Then I also said I don’t know the same amount of football as a college football coach. No shit. I doubt you do either. If you do then you’re even more pathetic than you come off. Commenting on a fan page instead of coaching.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Missoula223 said:
Because you don’t know or understand anything about football past the buzzwords you see on twitter or wherever you get your limited wealth of knowledge.

It’s a public fan forum dude. When you say stupid poop, you’re going to get called out.

Nothing about what I said was stupid. I said the 3-3-5 sucks. It hasn’t gotten us anywhere. Suggested any other base defense. You know like the 3-3-5 is. Then I also said I don’t know the same amount of football as a college football coach. No poop. I doubt you do either. If you do then you’re even more pathetic than you come off. Commenting on a fan page instead of coaching.

Don’t forget you claimed that our secondary was 5’9 and from chinook. You keep trying to leave that out for some reason. I wonder why. Also, the first statement is stupid because the 3-3-5 isn’t the issue. Good defenses at all levels play some type of 3 down nickel package. And 1 played it as base defense in the natty last year. Before you go saying “but Georgia beat them by a lot” yeah no shit Georgia beat everyone by a lot. It’s what good teams do regardless of opposing schemes.

I know a little bit of football I coached college for 20 years and got out to coach my kids. I don’t claim to know what Montana is doing or why because I don’t know what’s being coached. One thing I do know is that It’s easy to pick out a fans that don’t know anything like yourself.
 
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