Seems like.UMFan12 said:If MSU shoots even half decent at the conference tourney, they win it.
IdaGriz01 said:Seems like.UMFan12 said:If MSU shoots even half decent at the conference tourney, they win it.
EWU will still win the regular season, which guarantees them a trip to the NIT. Lucky for them, because closing the season with two losses won't impress anybody.
I'm getting a mixed message here. There's no "giving" MSU the title ... they have to earn it, and the Eags still have the best record in the Big Sky. These days, nobody wants the NIT consolation prize.Mousegriz said:Should they should just give the Cats the title? They can rest up for the ncaa and ewu for the nit.IdaGriz01 said:Seems like.
EWU will still win the regular season, which guarantees them a trip to the NIT. Lucky for them, because closing the season with two losses won't impress anybody.
Two losses......that don't mean a thing at the end of the conference season.......don't mean a thing!
UMFan12 said:If MSU shoots even half decent at the conference tourney, they win it.
marceagfan5 said:UMFan12 said:If MSU shoots even half decent at the conference tourney, they win it.
I think Weber will beat MSU in the Semi's...just my thought.
I wouldn't put much on last nights game between EWU and MSU. Both teams played their starters longer than I expected, but neither showed a ton of defensive and offensive sets that they'll run in the tourney. EWU will most likely press MSU from the tip in most games, they didn't do that at all last night. Should be a great tourney...
1/2UMFan12 said:Should also be mentioned EWU is not even as close to as good as they have “looked” the past few months. Got lucky to edge out a couple of close wins, just lost to Idaho State. Lost to a Hawaii team that is 5th in the big west by 20 points. They will not win the conference tournament. Would rather play them in the conference tourney than the Cats. The analysts and committee know. Have them projected as a low 14/ high 15 and will drop now. Not even close to a 13 line
UMFan12 said:1/2UMFan12 said:Should also be mentioned EWU is not even as close to as good as they have “looked” the past few months. Got lucky to edge out a couple of close wins, just lost to Idaho State. Lost to a Hawaii team that is 5th in the big west by 20 points. They will not win the conference tournament. Would rather play them in the conference tourney than the Cats. The analysts and committee know. Have them projected as a low 14/ high 15 and will drop now. Not even close to a 13 line
UMFan12 said:UMFan12 said:
Andddd… 2/2. All this talk of parity, and we did get some upsets. But there has been a clear league favorite from day 1 and that never changed….For those who know basketball at least. Cats have really built the perfect, in my mind, mold for a mid major basketball team. Could use a little more shooting, yes. But the shooters they do have have significant size. Everybody on the floor is a threat to score. Elite defending at all positions. And for a team that isn’t elite shooting, you want either a guy who is an elite shot creator or an elite interior presence. They have both. EWU had neither. That’s the difference. Compared that roster to the Griz. The spot up shooters we have are 6’1, 6’2, 6’5, and 6’8. Not all of our players are threats to score and are easy to double off(Mack, Oke at times, and Whitney on the perimeter ).We don’t have either an elite shot creator or an elite interior presence. Really clear which roster is constructed better.
I totally disagree. Yes the officiating is not as good as it could be, but it is better than it was when the BSC hired its own refs. We still get the less experienced refs because they use a seniority system when assigning games. the more experienced refs get to choose first and they are not choosing to go to UM, ISU, UI, NAU, EWU, and UNCo. You will get some of them in Scramento, Portland, Bozeman, and Ogden, but that is about it. If they were randomely assigned, it might work out better, but a lot of refs would quit because they don't want to go to those places. We are sort of stuck with what we have and it isn't going to get a lot better. Deal with it. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you.UMFan12 said:This conference will continue to struggle in March until we get the hell away from this reffing tree. OVC and even Summit teams have won games in recent years. We need to find away from the joke that is west coast reffing. UCLA lost this game by 2 points.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1634777880956747779?s=20
Complaint is about the West Coast pool in its entirety. When was the last time a West Coast team won a chip? The East is always better even with a conference that consistently gets 5* players. Big Sky is getting the worst of the worst. Conferences from this pool consistently rank at the top in FTAs and fouls.oldrunner said:I totally disagree. Yes the officiating is not as good as it could be, but it is better than it was when the BSC hired its own refs. We still get the less experienced refs because they use a seniority system when assigning games. the more experienced refs get to choose first and they are not choosing to go to UM, ISU, UI, NAU, EWU, and UNCo. You will get some of them in Scramento, Portland, Bozeman, and Ogden, but that is about it. If they were randomely assigned, it might work out better, but a lot of refs would quit because they don't want to go to those places. We are sort of stuck with what we have and it isn't going to get a lot better. Deal with it. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you.UMFan12 said:This conference will continue to struggle in March until we get the hell away from this reffing tree. OVC and even Summit teams have won games in recent years. We need to find away from the joke that is west coast reffing. UCLA lost this game by 2 points.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1634777880956747779?s=20
I think we got the best officials available in Boise. Mind you, the most experienced refs were in Las Vegas. they can do two or three games a day there, as apposed to one game a day in Boise. Better for the pocket book. You want the best refs, play in Vegas.
The scheduling of the BSCT was the best chance for our representative to do better in the Dance. More rest and prep time. :thumb:
I can see that point. The NCAA could take the whole thing over, but they have refused to do that up to this point. I would like to see them do it. You know, earn their money and do it right. However, when have you seen the NCAA do anything right? :lol:UMFan12 said:Complaint is about the West Coast pool in its entirety. When was the last time a West Coast team won a chip? The East is always better even with a conference that consistently gets 5* players. Big Sky is getting the worst of the worst. Conferences from this pool consistently rank at the top in FTAs and fouls.oldrunner said:I totally disagree. Yes the officiating is not as good as it could be, but it is better than it was when the BSC hired its own refs. We still get the less experienced refs because they use a seniority system when assigning games. the more experienced refs get to choose first and they are not choosing to go to UM, ISU, UI, NAU, EWU, and UNCo. You will get some of them in Scramento, Portland, Bozeman, and Ogden, but that is about it. If they were randomely assigned, it might work out better, but a lot of refs would quit because they don't want to go to those places. We are sort of stuck with what we have and it isn't going to get a lot better. Deal with it. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you.
I think we got the best officials available in Boise. Mind you, the most experienced refs were in Las Vegas. they can do two or three games a day there, as apposed to one game a day in Boise. Better for the pocket book. You want the best refs, play in Vegas.
The scheduling of the BSCT was the best chance for our representative to do better in the Dance. More rest and prep time. :thumb:
UMFan12 said:UMFan12 said:
Andddd… 2/2. All this talk of parity, and we did get some upsets. But there has been a clear league favorite from day 1 and that never changed….For those who know basketball at least. Cats have really built the perfect, in my mind, mold for a mid major basketball team. Could use a little more shooting, yes. But the shooters they do have have significant size. Everybody on the floor is a threat to score. Elite defending at all positions. And for a team that isn’t elite shooting, you want either a guy who is an elite shot creator or an elite interior presence. They have both. EWU had neither. That’s the difference. Compared that roster to the Griz. The spot up shooters we have are 6’1, 6’2, 6’5, and 6’8. Not all of our players are threats to score and are easy to double off(Mack, Oke at times, and Whitney on the perimeter ).We don’t have either an elite shot creator or an elite interior presence. Really clear which roster is constructed better.
Not at all what I said. Griz shouldn’t have yes, Cats no.mthoopsfan said:UMFan12 said:Andddd… 2/2. All this talk of parity, and we did get some upsets. But there has been a clear league favorite from day 1 and that never changed….For those who know basketball at least. Cats have really built the perfect, in my mind, mold for a mid major basketball team. Could use a little more shooting, yes. But the shooters they do have have significant size. Everybody on the floor is a threat to score. Elite defending at all positions. And for a team that isn’t elite shooting, you want either a guy who is an elite shot creator or an elite interior presence. They have both. EWU had neither. That’s the difference. Compared that roster to the Griz. The spot up shooters we have are 6’1, 6’2, 6’5, and 6’8. Not all of our players are threats to score and are easy to double off(Mack, Oke at times, and Whitney on the perimeter ).We don’t have either an elite shot creator or an elite interior presence. Really clear which roster is constructed better.
Aren't you the one who said the Cats shouldn't have signed Battle (he was too big of a risk) and that he wouldn't be nearly as good as the other Cat players? After early January last year, he was either the Cats 2d or 3d leading scorer. And you said you were glad the Griz didn't sign him. Great call.
UMFan12 said:Not at all what I said. Griz shouldn’t have yes, Cats no.mthoopsfan said:Aren't you the one who said the Cats shouldn't have signed Battle (he was too big of a risk) and that he wouldn't be nearly as good as the other Cat players? After early January last year, he was either the Cats 2d or 3d leading scorer. And you said you were glad the Griz didn't sign him. Great call.
What I said-
1-Better fit for the Cats with vet guards, 5th year seniors who could play regardless of whether or not he panned out
2- From what he had shown on paper, and the program he was coming from. He was a risk for either team.
And 3- The Griz were not in the position to take this risk with the developing guards we had on the roster that we would be taking the ball out of their hands. What the Cats got in Battle, it looked like we would have between Gaskin and Beasley.
If you’d like to tell me any of those 3 statements are wrong, go ahead. But, they’re not.
mthoopsfan said:UMFan12 said:Not at all what I said. Griz shouldn’t have yes, Cats no.
What I said-
1-Better fit for the Cats with vet guards, 5th year seniors who could play regardless of whether or not he panned out
2- From what he had shown on paper, and the program he was coming from. He was a risk for either team.
And 3- The Griz were not in the position to take this risk with the developing guards we had on the roster that we would be taking the ball out of their hands. What the Cats got in Battle, it looked like we would have between Gaskin and Beasley.
If you’d like to tell me any of those 3 statements are wrong, go ahead. But, they’re not.
First, that’s not what you said. I guilted you in another thread.
I don’t agree with any of your 3 points. He was a great and one of a kind talent for the big sky. Who cares about the school with best fit. He was not a risk anymore than any transfer. You and others made up stuff about him. My info comes from someone close to the UW program. And a Cat coach. The Griz would have done great with Battle. 2 guards left anyway.
Why can’t you just admit that you were wrong?
UMFan12 said:This conference will continue to struggle in March until we get the hell away from this reffing tree.