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"quality losses"

The total destruction of a poorly coached state college team also had something to do with the Griz getting in the play offs.
 
Until I read this post I knew a loss from a win. I knew I hated to lose.

When our company lost a bid job or got beat out of a project, only my wife would try to pep me up with words such as you and your company have much more quality etc. and your quality is far superior to the company that just beat you out. I now wish she would have read this post and told me I had "quality losses" I just feel so much better now!
 
Senor pr, i played the game...no excuses for losses. You win, or you lose. Like you do on this board. Go have lunch with senor Hauck. Talk about food. Your belly suggests you are good at it.
 
ISU's quality loss to MSU did not hurt them overall as much as their two wins against lower quality opponents. Of course it did eliminate them as if they had beat MSU they would've been in, but they still could've gotten in with that loss if they had better wins.
 
i don't know if you can call a heartbreaking loss a quality loss but the griz bb loss at boise state in double ot certainly qualfies as a moral victory. so much so in fact, that basketball is re-applying for religious status at montana, and travis decuire has already been anointed a savior.
 
I agree there are only loses and bad losses. That being said, I totally understand the argument otherwise. As someone that has played the game...hahaha...it does give you confidence to say we almost beat whomever, but it is short lived. still was a loss and still sucks in the end. the only way a "quality loss" helps is in a rematch. you have confidence to do it again. just my :twocents:
 
AZDoc said:
I agree there are only loses and bad losses. That being said, I totally understand the argument otherwise. As someone that has played the game...hahaha...it does give you confidence to say we almost beat whomever, but it is short lived. still was a loss and still sucks in the end. the only way a "quality loss" helps is in a rematch. you have confidence to do it again. just my :twocents:

Quality losses also help in being considered for the playoffs and in the polls. Example, if 2 Big Sky teams play the exact same schedule, don't play each other, get similar wins over the same teams, are each 8-4, lose to the same 4 very good teams but one team loses by 3 in each game and the other team loses by 21 in each game, and there's only room for one of the teams in the playoffs, which team gets in? Obviously, the team with the close losses, i.e. the quality losses.
 
I don't think that there is such a thing as a quality loss. However, a loss can provide a quality learning opportunity
 
Fahque said:
I don't think that there is such a thing as a quality loss. However, a loss can provide a quality learning opportunity

And help with playoff selection and in the poll rankings (don't drop as far). Why is it so hard fro some of you to admit that? Just because I'm saying it?
 
PlayerRep said:
Fahque said:
I don't think that there is such a thing as a quality loss. However, a loss can provide a quality learning opportunity

And help with playoff selection and in the poll rankings (don't drop as far). Why is it so hard fro some of you to admit that? Just because I'm saying it?
That just means you probably lost to a quality opponent and played them tough. Still does not mean it was a quality loss.
 
Fahque said:
PlayerRep said:
Fahque said:
I don't think that there is such a thing as a quality loss. However, a loss can provide a quality learning opportunity

And help with playoff selection and in the poll rankings (don't drop as far). Why is it so hard fro some of you to admit that? Just because I'm saying it?
That just means you probably lost to a quality opponent and played them tough. Still does not mean it was a quality loss.

I agree with you. I didn't coin the phrase. Someone else on egriz did.
 
PlayerRep said:
Fahque said:
PlayerRep said:
Fahque said:
I don't think that there is such a thing as a quality loss. However, a loss can provide a quality learning opportunity

And help with playoff selection and in the poll rankings (don't drop as far). Why is it so hard fro some of you to admit that? Just because I'm saying it?
That just means you probably lost to a quality opponent and played them tough. Still does not mean it was a quality loss.

I agree with you. I didn't coin the phrase. Someone else on egriz did.
Really?
PlayerRep said:
People who don't understand quality losses tend to be people who never played the game and/or don't understand the game of football. Very strong correlation there.
 
Fahque said:
PlayerRep said:
Fahque said:
PlayerRep said:
And help with playoff selection and in the poll rankings (don't drop as far). Why is it so hard fro some of you to admit that? Just because I'm saying it?
That just means you probably lost to a quality opponent and played them tough. Still does not mean it was a quality loss.

I agree with you. I didn't coin the phrase. Someone else on egriz did.
Really?
PlayerRep said:
People who don't understand quality losses tend to be people who never played the game and/or don't understand the game of football. Very strong correlation there.

Again, the phrase was not first used by me. I eventually started using it. Nice try. Get you facts right.
 
PlayerRep said:
Fahque said:
I don't think that there is such a thing as a quality loss. However, a loss can provide a quality learning opportunity

And help with playoff selection and in the poll rankings (don't drop as far). Why is it so hard fro some of you to admit that? Just because I'm saying it?

Nope. The rating tool used by the Selection Committee is the NCAA Simple Rating System. It is a formula, not a subjective poll. Margin of victory or defeat is not a factor in that formula.
 
PlayerRep said:
Fahque said:
PlayerRep said:
Fahque said:
That just means you probably lost to a quality opponent and played them tough. Still does not mean it was a quality loss.

I agree with you. I didn't coin the phrase. Someone else on egriz did.
Really?
PlayerRep said:
People who don't understand quality losses tend to be people who never played the game and/or don't understand the game of football. Very strong correlation there.

Again, the phrase was not first used by me. I eventually started using it. Nice try. Get you facts right.

I think that USD had a quality loss today....LOL
 
reed rothchild said:
PlayerRep said:
Fahque said:
I don't think that there is such a thing as a quality loss. However, a loss can provide a quality learning opportunity

And help with playoff selection and in the poll rankings (don't drop as far). Why is it so hard fro some of you to admit that? Just because I'm saying it?

Nope. The rating tool used by the Selection Committee is the NCAA Simple Rating System. It is a formula, not a subjective poll. Margin of victory or defeat is not a factor in that formula.

Even the selection committee thinks the SRS sucks. They don't rely on the SRS. And, margin of victory is a factor in the SRS.

"While never expected to be the definitive answer for the committee in selecting the 13 at-large teams which join the 11 automatic bids in the 24- team field, the SRS wasn't expected to be such a work-in-progress, either. The committee is still producing selections like it did prior to the addition of the SRS, going with subjective analysis over the numbers."

"This season, UNH was ranked sixth in the SRS released on Sunday yet gained the No. 1 seed for the playoffs. The Wildcats appear poised to validate the committee again, but the top seeding doesn't bode well for the SRS when the numbers had No. 2 seed North Dakota State with the top rating, third-seeded Jacksonville State second, seventh-seeded Coastal Carolina third and fifth- seeded Illinois State fourth, as well as Harvard, from an Ivy League that doesn't participate in the playoffs, fifth.

In addition, Richmond (25), Montana State (29) and Stephen F. Austin (32) earned at-large bids, while Idaho State (19), Bethune-Cookman (24), Bryant (26), Charleston Southern (27) and Bucknell (30) did not."

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PlayerRep said:
Fahque said:
PlayerRep said:
Fahque said:
I don't think that there is such a thing as a quality loss. However, a loss can provide a quality learning opportunity

And help with playoff selection and in the poll rankings (don't drop as far). Why is it so hard fro some of you to admit that? Just because I'm saying it?
That just means you probably lost to a quality opponent and played them tough. Still does not mean it was a quality loss.

I agree with you. I didn't coin the phrase. Someone else on egriz did.

coins? you championed the use of the phrase. geez, greenie, take credit when credit is due.
 
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