mtgrizrule said:
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QB's, we are over reacting.
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Bear Pause
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mikegriz said:
Not trying to be a smart ass, but SSH does not have the physical skills to continue to improve like some of you hope and predict that he will. He is like a tree back there with no mobility. He is not accurate, and will never be accurate. He has no ability to run the option element of our offense. In my opinion, those of you who think that this kid will develop into a Big Sky caliber QB capable of leading us to a conference championship and beyond are living a pipe dream.
IntuitiveGriz said:IntuitiveGriz said:Griz O Coordinator ran this Cadalac into the ditch with his limited, one-dimensional offense with a RB at QB. And was so blind and stubborn that he didn't make a change until it was too late to make the playoffs and earn the worst season in like a quarter century.
He doesn't want to play Adam B this year because Adam will make him look wrong for not playing him from the beginning...or at the very least sooner. That's my :twocents:
The D coordinaor has done a poor job this season as well. He constantly lines the safeities up too shallow in their cover 2 pres-snap, and then the DBs look like the 3 stooges (trying to recover when the ball is thrown over the deep middle). Dennard is the only capable guy back there at CB. The coordinator has called blitzes into screens...he has just been out-guessed and beaten. Expectations were so high on him, he's got a lot to learn and prove in my opinion.
The linebackers haven't covered a pass correctly once this year either, holy crap they are bad in the pass game. Yes, of course you line up in a zone package, but once the ball is snapped and an offensive player enters your zone, it then becomes man-to-man and you have to get on that son of a bitch! The Griz defenders quard grass, not players. They wait for the ball to be thrown, and then they go try to tackle the guy later. It's as if they are clueless to the guy in their zone, which is their man! It's as if they almost want that guy to catch the ball so they can pad their stats with tackles. I've never seen such bad pass defense by any back 7 in my life.
I can't put all the blame on the position coaches and coordinators, although they certainly own their share of the blame...but I gotta admit I believe the overall Griz talent level has fallen a bit. Sure there are still some studs that belong here, but some of the the players are not as dominant as they have been in the past. Mainly in the secondary and the offensive skill players. The speed and athleticism of these other teams have caught and surpassed that of the Griz. It's a shocking difference. :shock:
Not only has the BSC changed (with the tough added teams), the Griz have hit a recruiting bump as well, and have inexperienced coordinators, making this the perfect storm for the Griz to take the fall they have taken...
I almost forgot the most important part, the Griz DBs have pass first responsibilities but they play run first. The safeties think they are linebackers and not safeties (the last line of defense). The bite on every play fake imaginable (being over-aggressive), they fail to correctly read their keys that are shouting that it's a pass, and get beat on the play-fake pass.
The linebackers sometimes have pass first responsibilities as well, but they are'nt much better at reading their keys and getting beat by the pass either. Kannongata'a is the worst offender at this. He often get's his caught going toward the play-fake with eyes in the backfield while allowing his responsibility to roam free in the flat. Once he realizes it's a pass play, he scramble back to his responsibility in chase mode, but the damage has already been done.
+1
if back pedaling when 10yds off your coverage was an art form the griz db's would get a 9 out 10.........giving their opponents a free pass to complete their assignment as they are breaking to recovery (to tackle) instead of breaking up the play (to intercept or challenge the attempted pass).......very seldom do they play the ball on a pass play which i thought was basic at that position
ALPHAGRIZ1
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mikegriz said:
:lol: :lol: :stupid:
HighLineGRIZ
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SSH has had 2 starts. What do you expect him to do? Throw for 400 yards?? Then of course everybody jumps on the Brez bandwagon when he hasn't shown he is ready for serious playing time. There is a reason why you guys do not coach for a living and Rosie does. SSH has a lot to improve on if he's going to have any chance of starting next year, but he is probalby our best option right now.
IntuitiveGriz said:Griz O Coordinator ran this Cadalac into the ditch with his limited, one-dimensional offense with a RB at QB. And was so blind and stubborn that he didn't make a change until it was too late to make the playoffs and earn the worst season in like a quarter century.
Griz have the #1 offense in the BSC (YPG), and #10 in the nation. They score 34 points a game. We've lost games this year despite scoring 27, 31, 26 and 34. Methinks the offense isn't the problem here (aside from early season turnovers, which seems to have corrected itself).
Htowngriz
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AZGrizFan said:IntuitiveGriz said:Griz O Coordinator ran this Cadalac into the ditch with his limited, one-dimensional offense with a RB at QB. And was so blind and stubborn that he didn't make a change until it was too late to make the playoffs and earn the worst season in like a quarter century.
Griz have the #1 offense in the BSC (YPG), and #10 in the nation. They score 34 points a game. We've lost games this year despite scoring 27, 31, 26 and 34. Methinks the offense isn't the problem here (aside from early season turnovers, which seems to have corrected itself).
Exactly this. Is it just me, or is IntuitiveGriz really not all that intuitive?
The problem was, at least early on, when they needed to have a sustained clock eating drive in the late part of the ball game it was 3 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out. The Griz would have benefitted greatly from a clock eating 12-15 play 8 minute drive in both the EWU game and the APP St game.AZGrizFan said:IntuitiveGriz said:Griz O Coordinator ran this Cadalac into the ditch with his limited, one-dimensional offense with a RB at QB. And was so blind and stubborn that he didn't make a change until it was too late to make the playoffs and earn the worst season in like a quarter century.
Griz have the #1 offense in the BSC (YPG), and #10 in the nation. They score 34 points a game. We've lost games this year despite scoring 27, 31, 26 and 34. Methinks the offense isn't the problem here (aside from early season turnovers, which seems to have corrected itself).
I don't see this as over-reacting. Maybe misplaced anger at a bad season. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain," said the Wizard of Oz. Delaney, Rosie, and Ty, the men behind the curtain, aren't exactly stepping up to take responsibility for this year. They weren't charged with rebuilding a program, just not running it into the ground, which they have done. If Delaney was worth a damn, he'd announce his retirement effective at the end of the Griz-Cat game, jump into his hot air balloon and float back to Butte. All assistant coaches would remain in Munchkin Land to look for their next line of work, whatever that might be. Another year of the same 'leadership' would be disastrous.
ALPHAGRIZ1
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Maybe its just that the teams we have played have very bad defenses............AZGrizFan said:IntuitiveGriz said:Griz O Coordinator ran this Cadalac into the ditch with his limited, one-dimensional offense with a RB at QB. And was so blind and stubborn that he didn't make a change until it was too late to make the playoffs and earn the worst season in like a quarter century.
Griz have the #1 offense in the BSC (YPG), and #10 in the nation. They score 34 points a game. We've lost games this year despite scoring 27, 31, 26 and 34. Methinks the offense isn't the problem here (aside from early season turnovers, which seems to have corrected itself).
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statler & waldorf
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Worse that the Griz?