QB's on the Roster

[grizindabox]

Will any QB out of high school want to come here as it seems like this is turning into a merry-go-round of QB's,
what happened to the days of developing your second string guy until he took over.

Ask Oregon......

I also don't think what Stitt has done in the first year with the QB position will have any influence on a high school QB joining the program...

 

[Griz2k]

There are only two quarterbacks in the list above that have any chance of winning the starting job.

 

[The_Real_Chief]

There are only two quarterbacks in the list above that have any chance of winning the starting job.

What about for the race for 5th string QB? Who do you think is the favorite?

 

[granitegriz]

Why cut Prater? He is only a sophomore. Give him a chance at least!

 

[Plainsman]

I think Gus' performance in Fargo opened the door for Reece. Which is actually unfortunate given how well he played against EWU and State.

But looking back he pretty much was a non-factor from the 2nd half of SDSU on thru NDSU. Actually in Fargo he looked worse than the Liberty game...

The Jacks saw something and adjusted at halftime. NSDU refined what they saw on film and then blew the Griz offense out of the Fargo Dome.

The overall inconsistency and the extremely poor performance in Fargo really hurt Stitt's confidence in him, in my opinion.

Chalich is definitely in the mix as well with respect to how he played prior to breaking his foot. The game plan again ISU showed a severe lack of trust in Semis. But he was a good athlete who could make plays with his feet. I actually think he could step in and play slot receiver or whatever it's called now, very similar to Roberts.

I agree that Jensen will be redshirted and will likely be a 3 year starter. Possibly 2 if Reece is truly good and his redshirt appeal goes through.

There is a reason why he played well against Eastern and State.. It's because their defense sucked.

This, I'm afraid. With the exception of the first NDSU game, which now appears to have been an anomoly, the offense with or without Brady played at a high level only against miserable defenses. I am willing to give Stitt more time but I think questions still remain about the viability of what seems to be a highly complex offense and definitely about whether there is a quarterback among the multitude of quarterbacks on the roster that can effectively run such a system.

 

[UMGriz75]

This, I'm afraid. With the exception of the first NDSU game, which now appears to have been an anomoly, the offense with or without Brady played at a high level only against miserable defenses. I am willing to give Stitt more time but I think questions still remain about the viability of what seems to be a highly complex offense and definitely about whether there is a quarterback among the multitude of quarterbacks on the roster that can effectively run such a system.

I pointed to this mid-season.

The problem with "highly complex" combined with "maximized play numbers" is a statistical one: it maximizes risk.

"Highly complex" means that more things can (and will) go wrong.

"Maximized play numbers" means that there is more opportunity for things to go wrong.

In statistics, risk is cumulative.

You have to be pretty confident that strategies that may have worked against Chadron State* -- "my offense can beat any defense" -- will, or even can, work in the FCS, given the increased inherent risk of higher quality opponent play (a third metric that increases "risk").

That includes the defensive component, another component of "risk."

And if five highly touted QB candidates cannot manage the "offense," then another component of "risk" is added to the cumulative total, the long term risk of recruiting to a position that the recruit may not realistically play in for a year, or two, or more, which presents a long-term challenge to any program especially if the high schools recruited from do not play similar strategies.
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* Well, they didn't actually work that well against Chadron State. Stitt's record against Chadron State, 2000-2014 is 6-9. :shock: Chadron State is a small 4-year college in Nebraska serving the Pine Ridge area, with an enrollment slightly larger than Billings West High School.

 

[grizindabox]

I think people are not quite sure what they are talking about when they say Stitt runs a complex offense....

 

[UMGriz75]

I think people are not quite sure what they are talking about when they say Stitt runs a complex offense....

I haven't seen it, but when Stitt himself pointed to what he considered a "simplified" offense, we had one of our best successes of the season against a credible opponent with a credible defense.

 

[blackfoot griz]

Last year's running game was anything but complex. 2 guys in the backfield, one guy ain't going anywhere with it. Guess who gets the rock?

 

[grizindabox]

I think people are not quite sure what they are talking about when they say Stitt runs a complex offense....

I haven't seen it, but when Stitt himself pointed to what he considered a "simplified" offense, we had one of our best successes of the season against a credible opponent with a credible defense.

I think a more correct term would be cerebral.....

 

[griz4life]

Reese has 3 seasons in this offense already vs. 1 for the other QBs. Per Kyle Sample's story on Reese, the QB was able to ID the formations on film. That has to be a big edge.

 

[UMGriz75]

Last year's running game was anything but complex. 2 guys in the backfield, one guy ain't going anywhere with it. Guess who gets the rock?

One interesting tactical point, as soon as Brady handed off, he stopped moving and watched the ball carrier run away. Every game. It was obvious that there was a hand-off, no mistake about it, and not even the slightest effort to pretend he might still have the ball to deflect any defenders.

 

[Grisly Fan]

Last year's running game was anything but complex. 2 guys in the backfield, one guy ain't going anywhere with it. Guess who gets the rock?

One interesting tactical point, as soon as Brady handed off, he stopped moving and watched the ball carrier run away. Every game. It was obvious that there was a hand-off, no mistake about it, and not even the slightest effort to pretend he might still have the ball to deflect any defenders.

They might have fallen for the possibility of him running once or twice but not beyond that. At least he kept himself from being hit unnecessarily so there's that... People say his offense is complex or cerebral or simplified from what it will someday be or whatever. I sure hope we see a whole lot more than we saw because what we saw was about as vanilla as you can run, relying mainly upon perfect execution and exceptional athletic effort. The schemes rarely fooled anyone.

 

[blackfoot griz]

Last year's running game was anything but complex. 2 guys in the backfield, one guy ain't going anywhere with it. Guess who gets the rock?

One interesting tactical point, as soon as Brady handed off, he stopped moving and watched the ball carrier run away. Every game. It was obvious that there was a hand-off, no mistake about it, and not even the slightest effort to pretend he might still have the ball to deflect any defenders.

Run away or into a wall of much bigger dudes!

 

[UMGriz75]

Reese has 3 seasons in this offense already vs. 1 for the other QBs. Per Kyle Sample's story on Reese, the QB was able to ID the formations on film. That has to be a big edge.

Did he say the current QB's can't? There seems to be fairly large synaptic gap in the information provided there.

 

[grizindabox]

Reese has 3 seasons in this offense already vs. 1 for the other QBs. Per Kyle Sample's story on Reese, the QB was able to ID the formations on film. That has to be a big edge.

Did he say the current QB's can't? There seems to be fairly large synaptic gap in the information provided there.

Probably not....you know....since the article was about Reese and not the other QB's....

 

[UMGriz75]

Reese has 3 seasons in this offense already vs. 1 for the other QBs. Per Kyle Sample's story on Reese, the QB was able to ID the formations on film. That has to be a big edge.

Did he say the current QB's can't? There seems to be fairly large synaptic gap in the information provided there.

Probably not....you know....since the article was about Reese and not the other QB's....

Well, in reference to the post I was responding to, Reese has "a big edge" over what or who?

You know, the part of the conversation that actually makes sense.

You know, if it wasn't in reference to the other QBs, maybe it was about Reese able to ID formations and how that gives him an advantage over ... linemen? team managers? concessions? basketball players? accountants?

 

[casewinter13]

Reese has 3 seasons in this offense already vs. 1 for the other QBs. Per Kyle Sample's story on Reese, the QB was able to ID the formations on film. That has to be a big edge.

Did he say the current QB's can't? There seems to be fairly large synaptic gap in the information provided there.

Probably not....you know....since the article was about Reese and not the other QB's....

Well, in reference to the post I was responding to, Reese has "a big edge" over what or who?

You know, the part of the conversation that actually makes sense.

You know, if it wasn't in reference to the other QBs, maybe it was about Reese able to ID formations and how that gives him an advantage over ... linemen? team managers? concessions? basketball players? accountants?

How about an edge over a transfer qb that perhaps hadn't been immersed in a strikingly similar offense for the past 3 years...ass...sometimes reading requires a modicum of imagination..and spare me your sure-to-follow long-winded, condescending reply demonstrating your far superior intellect, from here on I won't be able to read your posts.

 

[grizindabox]

Reese has 3 seasons in this offense already vs. 1 for the other QBs. Per Kyle Sample's story on Reese, the QB was able to ID the formations on film. That has to be a big edge.

Did he say the current QB's can't? There seems to be fairly large synaptic gap in the information provided there.

Probably not....you know....since the article was about Reese and not the other QB's....

Well, in reference to the post I was responding to, Reese has "a big edge" over what or who?

You know, the part of the conversation that actually makes sense.

You know, if it wasn't in reference to the other QBs, maybe it was about Reese able to ID formations and how that gives him an advantage over ... linemen? team managers? concessions? basketball players? accountants?

He has a big edge over any other possible transfer QB's....but keep trying to read more into everything to meet your agenda.....talk about stupidity...

 

[UMGriz75]

He has a big edge over any other possible transfer QB's....

Oh, but wait, you had said:

...since the article was about Reese and not the other QB's....

Of course, in your world, "other possible transfer QBs" aren't "other QBs."

They are something else! Reese has an advantage over QBs that are not "other" QBs!

Got it! :thumb: