I think Phillips and Hill could start. That's the issue. We also still have 2.5 weeks to game time.nzone said:So are the quarterbacks so mediocre that we are still looking for someone to take charge and have that "it" factor or are they that talented Stitt and company can't get one to excel above the others.
How good are these guys?
Well said :thumb:Grizzly96 said:I think it will take until actual games to make a final determination on "the" starter. Phillips knows the offense the best, but seems to be a turnover machine. Hill by far the most athletic, but the least amount of time with the offense. Jensen is right behind Hill in athleticism, but is still young and inconsistent. IMO, Hill has the "gamer" attitude that I want in a QB. I don't care about technique or how it "looks" or what class you are. Who will step up in the pocket and take one on the chin to complete a pass(then get up and talk shit to the defensive player that hit him)? Who will scramble and make a play when the play breaks down? Who will play with the attitude that they are the best player on the field and lead the team? Again, IMO, that is Hill right now and I believe Jensen is right behind him and will be that player in years to come.
Yukon said:both will get time to play in garbage time.
SeattleBobcat said:Yukon said:both will get time to play in garbage time.
So basically the whole UW game.
SeattleBobcat said:Yukon said:both will get time to play in garbage time.
So basically the whole UW game.
Grizzly96 said:I think it will take until actual games to make a final determination on "the" starter. Phillips knows the offense the best, but seems to be a turnover machine. Hill is by far the most athletic, but has the least amount of time with the offense. Jensen is right behind Hill in athleticism, but is still young and inconsistent. IMO, Hill has the "gamer" attitude that I want in a QB. I don't care about technique or how it "looks" or what class you are. Who will step up in the pocket and take one on the chin to complete a pass(then get up and talk shit to the defensive player that hit him)? Who will scramble and make a play when the play breaks down? Who will play with the attitude that they are the best player on the field and lead the team? Again, IMO, that is Hill right now and I believe Jensen is right behind him and will be that player in years to come.
krammer said:Grizzly96 said:I think it will take until actual games to make a final determination on "the" starter. Phillips knows the offense the best, but seems to be a turnover machine. Hill is by far the most athletic, but has the least amount of time with the offense. Jensen is right behind Hill in athleticism, but is still young and inconsistent. IMO, Hill has the "gamer" attitude that I want in a QB. I don't care about technique or how it "looks" or what class you are. Who will step up in the pocket and take one on the chin to complete a pass(then get up and talk shit to the defensive player that hit him)? Who will scramble and make a play when the play breaks down? Who will play with the attitude that they are the best player on the field and lead the team? Again, IMO, that is Hill right now and I believe Jensen is right behind him and will be that player in years to come.
this is well said.....i am one of the fans and booster that wants to see jensen and hill get quality game time reps just like phillips.....stitt imo settles into who is his man before all the facts are in...just my opinion....i do know when a play goes wrong hill can make things happen vs. the other two...and we have not had that since j.j. .... go griz !
1972 said:krammer said:Grizzly96 said:I think it will take until actual games to make a final determination on "the" starter. Phillips knows the offense the best, but seems to be a turnover machine. Hill is by far the most athletic, but has the least amount of time with the offense. Jensen is right behind Hill in athleticism, but is still young and inconsistent. IMO, Hill has the "gamer" attitude that I want in a QB. I don't care about technique or how it "looks" or what class you are. Who will step up in the pocket and take one on the chin to complete a pass(then get up and talk shit to the defensive player that hit him)? Who will scramble and make a play when the play breaks down? Who will play with the attitude that they are the best player on the field and lead the team? Again, IMO, that is Hill right now and I believe Jensen is right behind him and will be that player in years to come.
this is well said.....i am one of the fans and booster that wants to see jensen and hill get quality game time reps just like phillips.....stitt imo settles into who is his man before all the facts are in...just my opinion....i do know when a play goes wrong hill can make things happen vs. the other two...and we have not had that since j.j. .... go griz !
I'm not trying to stick up for Phillips here, but one I'd say is this- All three quarterbacks actually have pretty good wheels, I would agree that Hill is the most athletic, probably not by much. In the last scrimmage it was the first time I saw Phillips with some of the 2's. In my opinion he was better with the 2's than the other two. As fans, we only get a small glimpse of what the coaches see, we don't set and study film, etc.
1972 said:krammer said:Grizzly96 said:I think it will take until actual games to make a final determination on "the" starter. Phillips knows the offense the best, but seems to be a turnover machine. Hill is by far the most athletic, but has the least amount of time with the offense. Jensen is right behind Hill in athleticism, but is still young and inconsistent. IMO, Hill has the "gamer" attitude that I want in a QB. I don't care about technique or how it "looks" or what class you are. Who will step up in the pocket and take one on the chin to complete a pass(then get up and talk shit to the defensive player that hit him)? Who will scramble and make a play when the play breaks down? Who will play with the attitude that they are the best player on the field and lead the team? Again, IMO, that is Hill right now and I believe Jensen is right behind him and will be that player in years to come.
this is well said.....i am one of the fans and booster that wants to see jensen and hill get quality game time reps just like phillips.....stitt imo settles into who is his man before all the facts are in...just my opinion....i do know when a play goes wrong hill can make things happen vs. the other two...and we have not had that since j.j. .... go griz !
I'm not trying to stick up for Phillips here, but one I'd say is this- All three quarterbacks actually have pretty good wheels, I would agree that Hill is the most athletic, probably not by much. In the last scrimmage it was the first time I saw Phillips with some of the 2's. In my opinion he was better with the 2's than the other two. As fans, we only get a small glimpse of what the coaches see, we don't set and study film, etc.
krammer said:Grizzly96 said:I think it will take until actual games to make a final determination on "the" starter. Phillips knows the offense the best, but seems to be a turnover machine. Hill is by far the most athletic, but has the least amount of time with the offense. Jensen is right behind Hill in athleticism, but is still young and inconsistent. IMO, Hill has the "gamer" attitude that I want in a QB. I don't care about technique or how it "looks" or what class you are. Who will step up in the pocket and take one on the chin to complete a pass(then get up and talk shit to the defensive player that hit him)? Who will scramble and make a play when the play breaks down? Who will play with the attitude that they are the best player on the field and lead the team? Again, IMO, that is Hill right now and I believe Jensen is right behind him and will be that player in years to come.
this is well said.....i am one of the fans and booster that wants to see jensen and hill get quality game time reps just like phillips.....stitt imo settles into who is his man before all the facts are in...just my opinion....i do know when a play goes wrong hill can make things happen vs. the other two...and we have not had that since j.j. .... go griz !
George Ferguson said:They get a chance every single day. Phillips is the leader, but it's not over, and neither Jensen or Hill would tell you they're not getting a fair shake. Go watch practice and see for yourself.
krammer said:George Ferguson said:They get a chance every single day. Phillips is the leader, but it's not over, and neither Jensen or Hill would tell you they're not getting a fair shake. Go watch practice and see for yourself.
i respect your insight but i don't really know what jensen or hill would say in the "dead of night", sort of speak and neither do you .....i can not watch the practices (closed and distance),,,however i did watch the spring game in person,,,, so give me some space to be a fan,,,i do know what i saw that day. regarding leadership, that is something that must be earned and is not something given......it may take a couple more weeks to know who has earned that title.
mtgrizfankb said:krammer said:George Ferguson said:They get a chance every single day. Phillips is the leader, but it's not over, and neither Jensen or Hill would tell you they're not getting a fair shake. Go watch practice and see for yourself.
i respect your insight but i don't really know what jensen or hill would say in the "dead of night", sort of speak and neither do you .....i can not watch the practices (closed and distance),,,however i did watch the spring game in person,,,, so give me some space to be a fan,,,i do know what i saw that day. regarding leadership, that is something that must be earned and is not something given......it may take a couple more weeks to know who has earned that title.
I know you haven't as you mentioned but if you talked to the WRs or even just listen to their interviews. Reese is the leader. Reese is "the guy" to them and he allows them go make plays and the WRs love that. I have 0 doubt that Reese will start. HIll I think is a really good player and not a drop off if Reese goes down, but Reese has the leg up and it would take a real bad week for him to lose the job. Hill will be a great QB next year and Jensen...is gonna be in the same spot hill is next year. very talented but someone who is just as talented and more experienced in front of him.