Ok, we've seen all your predictions. But who has the brass coconuts or the stupidity to pick the Griz on their brackets? WelI I did. I don't yet know if I am wise or foolish but I am slamming down the kool-aid and it tastes like...badger squeezings.
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Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is
- Thread starter cclarkblues
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becker2117
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its not foolish, becuase a 4 seed goes down every year...i picked em...no reason not too...its not like we are a 15 seed....we have watched the griz all year adn there is no reason we should have confidence in them...i know they are going to have supreme confidence in themselves. GO GRIZ! I would be suprised if there are actually people saying they think we will win, then not picking it in the bracket..that is chicken shit
Zootown Rox
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I'm going nutz and picking them to win against Vandy in the next round - and one of my brackets has Vandy getting beat by Harvard too!
It's only a couple bucks and nothing is better than picking a 13 seed for the sweet sixteen and being right.
Also the thirteen seeds now are the teams that were more likely to have been 12 seeds two years ago because of the added play-in games created more at large teams.
It's only a couple bucks and nothing is better than picking a 13 seed for the sweet sixteen and being right.
Also the thirteen seeds now are the teams that were more likely to have been 12 seeds two years ago because of the added play-in games created more at large teams.
I picked them because I honestly feel as though they're going to beat Wisconsin. I'd have picked them even if I wasn't a GRIZ fan.
Potomac Griz
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This game really has a lot of the signs of a good upset game to pick if you go by what the methods usually used to pick a 5/12 upset.
Griz:
- Very hot mid major team peaking at the right time of the year.
- Excellent guards (see 2005-2006 vs Nevada, or really a large majority of the upsets over the years).
- High FG% (#47 in the country).
- Multiple 3 point threats (all 5 starters can hit the 3 with very good consistency).
Wisconsin:
- Inconsistent major team. Sure, Wisconsin's D is consistently very very good, but their O is questionable. FG% is #230 in the country. They shoot the 3 well usually, but when they don't it's trouble.
- Not an overpowering inside presence. They have the advantage inside of course, but it's not in such a way where we are going up against a 6'11" 20point 10rebound a game bruiser inside.
- Not a lot of offensive rebounds. Of course the Griz don't grab that many either.. but usually against a major team, the team from the big conference end up getting a lot of putbacks (See Griz vs B.C.). Wisconsin, much like the Griz, are more focused with getting back on D and stopping transition buckets, so they probably wont be getting many second chance points.
- Not overly athletic and doesn't like to run. They aren't a fast paced team... in fact just saying they aren't a fast paced team is a huge understatement. Holy shit is their offense slooooooooooow. I'd be much more worried if the Griz were playing a team that gets up and down the court very quickly, especially with how the Griz don't typically go deep on their bench.
Of course there are reasons why Wisconsin could win this game too. Their Defense mainly... This will, by far, be the best defense the Griz have faced all year. This will be a HUGE test for the Griz offense, and if the Griz can hit some early shots and gain confidence that they can score against Wisconsin, the Badgers will be in trouble. If the Griz come out shooting poorly, and let Wisconsin's defense frustrate them, then well....bad news
On my bracket I'm picking the Griz. I like this match up a lot. If Wisconsin isn't shooting lights out from the 3 I could see the Griz being able to push the ball up the court for some transition buckets on long rebounds. Not nearly as many as the Griz usually get of course, due to how Wisconsin is VERY good at getting back on D, but the Griz are very quick at getting down the court too.
It should be a good game to watch! No matter who wins I'd be willing to be it'll be a fairly close game.
Griz:
- Very hot mid major team peaking at the right time of the year.
- Excellent guards (see 2005-2006 vs Nevada, or really a large majority of the upsets over the years).
- High FG% (#47 in the country).
- Multiple 3 point threats (all 5 starters can hit the 3 with very good consistency).
Wisconsin:
- Inconsistent major team. Sure, Wisconsin's D is consistently very very good, but their O is questionable. FG% is #230 in the country. They shoot the 3 well usually, but when they don't it's trouble.
- Not an overpowering inside presence. They have the advantage inside of course, but it's not in such a way where we are going up against a 6'11" 20point 10rebound a game bruiser inside.
- Not a lot of offensive rebounds. Of course the Griz don't grab that many either.. but usually against a major team, the team from the big conference end up getting a lot of putbacks (See Griz vs B.C.). Wisconsin, much like the Griz, are more focused with getting back on D and stopping transition buckets, so they probably wont be getting many second chance points.
- Not overly athletic and doesn't like to run. They aren't a fast paced team... in fact just saying they aren't a fast paced team is a huge understatement. Holy shit is their offense slooooooooooow. I'd be much more worried if the Griz were playing a team that gets up and down the court very quickly, especially with how the Griz don't typically go deep on their bench.
Of course there are reasons why Wisconsin could win this game too. Their Defense mainly... This will, by far, be the best defense the Griz have faced all year. This will be a HUGE test for the Griz offense, and if the Griz can hit some early shots and gain confidence that they can score against Wisconsin, the Badgers will be in trouble. If the Griz come out shooting poorly, and let Wisconsin's defense frustrate them, then well....bad news
On my bracket I'm picking the Griz. I like this match up a lot. If Wisconsin isn't shooting lights out from the 3 I could see the Griz being able to push the ball up the court for some transition buckets on long rebounds. Not nearly as many as the Griz usually get of course, due to how Wisconsin is VERY good at getting back on D, but the Griz are very quick at getting down the court too.
It should be a good game to watch! No matter who wins I'd be willing to be it'll be a fairly close game.
cclarkblues said:
LOL. I'll be suitably impressed when you lay a C-note on your bookie (Brackets aren't even house money).
BTW: I think the front line of Cherry, Jamar and Steward will hold their own, but the ability of Ward and Selvig in the paint is a concern. The Badgers' tendency to rush into defensive mode might help with rebounds, but these two don't have the best hands and I'm thinking UW is going to pack under the Griz offensive boards with quicker more aggressive folks. The long ball better be ON!
Obzerver
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Speaking of money. Going to lay down some bets tonite in Vegas one will be UM and the the 9 pts. Now some on here said it will be low scoring so I was going to bet the under but the line is 118 pts which is the lowest I think out of all the games in all the tourny's. Lower than 118?
Growler1 said:
That's like stealing from the casisno. They're going to be coming after your ass....
GrizMusician
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Ok, so I have np clue what this over & under business is... can someone do a quick write up or something?
mtgrizrule
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GrizMusician said:
It is an easy bet. It is someone betting the combined scored for the teams will be over under whatever the set number. I think GRIZ/Wisconsin over/under is high 50's or 60 even. I have not checked today.
GRIZ with 10 points certainly is tempting, considering that is likely 1/6th of the points for the winning team. I don't see either team getting much more than 60, and with so few possessions, I think 10 points is a great bet. If I had the extra $$$$ I would take that, too. :thumb:
IdaGriz01
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Agree with your overall assessment, but not so sure on the "athletic" point. Have only seen parts of maybe a half-dozen games (which are boorrring), but the look is pretty consistent. Their systems (offense and defense) are not meant to rely on flashy moves, so their players have few chances to show off. But -- make no mistake -- when they do, they have some pretty good athletes.Potomac Griz said:
Like the Griz, they play tenacious defense, with good switching and quick moves to contest the three (you see some of that athletic ability here). Unlike the Griz, they do not (from my fairly limited sample) use a wide variety of defensive approaches.
Their offense is deliberate (
read, slow), but that's "deliberate" (on purpose). While several have mentioned how they wait to make a late-in-the-clock jumper, that's not strictly true. They move the ball, and move the ball, and move the ball, and ... until the defense loses concentration and suffers a breakdown. That may or may not happen late in the shot clock, but then the Badgers try to exploit the lapse.What's interesting, however (and a kind of opportunity), is that even on offense they practically have one foot on defense. In the games I've seen, they do not crash the offensive boards -- as a team -- when a Wisconsin player puts up a shot. At times, I have seen at least two players turn and run into defensive positions without even looking to pick up a long rebound. If the Griz tend to business, they should be able to make it "one and done" for Wisconsin shooters. (Of course, that also means the Griz can't give them good looks, or the "one" will be made basket.)
As for our short bench, the slow pace is only a partial plus. It takes patience and concentration to attack the kind of defense Wisconsin puts up. And their probing, move-the-ball offense requires even more patience and concentration on defense. The Griz may not be physically stressed, but the mental strain could be a problem as the game goes on.
All that being said, it's hard to expect anything but a close, low-scoring game.
GrizMusician
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mtgrizrule said:
Oh ok... that makes much more sense!!! Thanks!
