"Pure disrespect!"

[Griz2k]

What has NAU ever done to earn respect on a national level?[/quote

Take comfort in knowing that the selection committee f#cked you, and that you raped the griz this year...on their own field...

Never knew WaGriz was in Flagstaff....oh, wait :msugrad: :stupid: :lol:

:lol: It must suck to try and talk smack and end up making a complete ass of yourself!

 

[fencer24]

The reason that the Griz got the seed is that Jesus loves me. So don't piss me off, shut up and go play your way to the Championship. All of you!

 

[MT Jack]

The only thing the Griz should apologize for are the two fumble 6s against NAU that allows them and their fan base to actually believe they are a top 10 team.

34-16 final score.... 34-14 (taking away two said fumble returns) = 20 ..... 20 > 16. Math is fun. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Really, though, I'm done here til after the first round is over. Too much crankiness and butthurt on part of all at the moment.

Good luck in two weekends vs. Bethune-Cookman or Coastal Carolina, Griz faithful. As I said before, I'm pulling for the other three Big Sky teams to keep it going in the playoffs.

 

[grizfan95]

The only thing the Griz should apologize for are the two fumble 6s against NAU that allows them and their fan base to actually believe they are a top 10 team.

34-16 final score.... 34-14 (taking away two said fumble returns) = 20 ..... 20 > 16. Math is fun. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Really, though, I'm done here til after the first round is over. Too much crankiness and butthurt on part of all at the moment.

Good luck in two weekends vs. Bethune-Cookman or Coastal Carolina, Griz faithful. As I said before, I'm pulling for the other three Big Sky teams to keep it going in the playoffs.

Best to your team as well. Bauman and NAU fans can be upset, but I'd rather have another shot at EWU than go through our path, but that's why they play the game!

 

[Griz2k]

The only thing the Griz should apologize for are the two fumble 6s against NAU that allows them and their fan base to actually believe they are a top 10 team.

34-16 final score.... 34-14 (taking away two said fumble returns) = 20 ..... 20 > 16. Math is fun. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Really, though, I'm done here til after the first round is over. Too much crankiness and butthurt on part of all at the moment.

Good luck in two weekends vs. Bethune-Cookman or Coastal Carolina, Griz faithful. As I said before, I'm pulling for the other three Big Sky teams to keep it going in the playoffs.

Class. :clap:

 

[Quig]

Be happy with what you've gotten. Take care of your own business, beat SDSU (if you're not looking past them), and go back to your NAU board with all three of your posters.

Oh, and be grateful that there are 24 teams in the brackets, or you wouldn't be in the playoffs at all.

You guys think I'm one of the three...right?

 

[Herd]

What has NAU ever done to earn respect on a national level?

Gee, and I thought that the seeding in 2013 was based on 2013 performance, not lifetime achievement.

If you don't believe that the success that a program like Montana has had for 30 years in the playoffs doesn't play a small part in the selection, you need to put the glue down. That aside, UM earned the seed based on this year's results.

This years results have you behind NAU in the conf standings, and behind NAU based on the only tie breaker of any importance at all, head to head. The 12 game by MT is of no consequence, frankly the OOC schedule favors NAU who actually played an FBS opponent.

Putting NAU ahead of Montana is the only decision any logical person can make based on 2013 results, the only logical decision. I'm pretty sure that the 1990's do not justify poor decision making and integrity by the committee in 2013. It's done, but please save your Spin for another day.

 

[GrizPony]

So you would rather play NAU. Got it.

 

[PlayerRep]

What has NAU ever done to earn respect on a national level?

Gee, and I thought that the seeding in 2013 was based on 2013 performance, not lifetime achievement.

If you don't believe that the success that a program like Montana has had for 30 years in the playoffs doesn't play a small part in the selection, you need to put the glue down. That aside, UM earned the seed based on this year's results.

This years results have you behind NAU in the conf standings, and behind NAU based on the only tie breaker of any importance at all, head to head. That is the only decision any logical person can make on 2013 results, the only logical decision. Anything other than that is pure spin on your part. Spin away.

Your comment and (lack of) analysis is just plain nonsense, and wrong.

You can't just focus on a game or two; you need to look at the entire season. The committee makes its decisions on the entire season, not just a few games. See below for a more complete analysis of the season. My view is that Montana has a case for having a higher seed than 8th.

Big Sky schools NAU played that Montana didn't were Southern Utah, Idaho State, Northern Colorado. These teams were combined 6-18 conference, 12-14 overall.

Big Sky schools UM played that NAU didn't were Eastern Washington, Portland State, Weber State. These teams were a combined 12-12 conference, 18-18 overall.

For the 6 common opponents overall the Lumberjacks we're 5-1 vs them, and outscored them 154-140

For the 6 common opponents overall the Griz we're 6-0 vs them, and outscored those teams 228-127

In the ncaa's SRS, UM is rated 8th, and NAU is rated 11th. The SRS is a stated criteria of the FCS playoff selection process this year.http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/fcs-srs-poll" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the GPI, UM is 6th and NAU is 10th. Historically, the GPI is one of the best indicators of playoff selection and seeding. It was relatively accurate this year, but not as accurate as most years in the past.

In the Sagarin, UM is rated 96th, and NAU is rated 131st. There are 31 FCS teams between UM and NAU in the Sagarin.

In the Sports Network poll, UM is ranked 4th, and NAU is ranked 8th.

And NAU didn't play EWU.

Instead of implying that the playoff committee, computer ratings, polls, etc. are all wrong, and focusing on a game or two, you need to look at the overall picture/analysis, and face up to reality. I'm started to wonder if all these complaining ND fans are concerned that UM is going to go to ND and beat the Bison.

 

[Rockmeister]

What has NAU ever done to earn respect on a national level?

Gee, and I thought that the seeding in 2013 was based on 2013 performance, not lifetime achievement.

If you don't believe that the success that a program like Montana has had for 30 years in the playoffs doesn't play a small part in the selection, you need to put the glue down. That aside, UM earned the seed based on this year's results.

This years results have you behind NAU in the conf standings, and behind NAU based on the only tie breaker of any importance at all, head to head. That is the only decision any logical person can make on 2013 results, the only logical decision. Anything other than that is pure spin on your part. Spin away.

The decisions by the selection committee are not just based on conference standings. As stated earlier by many posters, the SRS of the Grizziles is higher, period! Also, because of the 13 team league, the schedule of NAU was an easier schedule than that of the Griz in the BSC. Blame the selection committee, if you have a gripe. :roll:

 

[Rockmeister]

Gee, and I thought that the seeding in 2013 was based on 2013 performance, not lifetime achievement.

If you don't believe that the success that a program like Montana has had for 30 years in the playoffs doesn't play a small part in the selection, you need to put the glue down. That aside, UM earned the seed based on this year's results.

This years results have you behind NAU in the conf standings, and behind NAU based on the only tie breaker of any importance at all, head to head. That is the only decision any logical person can make on 2013 results, the only logical decision. Anything other than that is pure spin on your part. Spin away.

Your comment and (lack of) analysis is just plain nonsense, and wrong.

You can't just focus on a game or two; you need to look at the entire season. The committee makes its decisions on the entire season, not just a few games. See below for a more complete analysis of the season. My view is that Montana has a case for having a higher seed than 8th.

Big Sky schools NAU played that Montana didn't were Southern Utah, Idaho State, Northern Colorado. These teams were combined 6-18 conference, 12-14 overall.

Big Sky schools UM played that NAU didn't were Eastern Washington, Portland State, Weber State. These teams were a combined 12-12 conference, 18-18 overall.

For the 6 common opponents overall the Lumberjacks we're 5-1 vs them, and outscored them 154-140

For the 6 common opponents overall the Griz we're 6-0 vs them, and outscored those teams 228-127

In the ncaa's SRS, UM is rated 8th, and NAU is rated 11th. The SRS is a stated criteria of the FCS playoff selection process this year.http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/fcs-srs-poll" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the GPI, UM is 6th and NAU is 10th. Historically, the GPI is one of the best indicators of playoff selection and seeding. It was relatively accurate this year, but not as accurate as most years in the past.

In the Sagarin, UM is rated 96th, and NAU is rated 131st. There are 31 FCS teams between UM and NAU in the Sagarin.

In the Sports Network poll, UM is ranked 4th, and NAU is ranked 8th.

And NAU didn't play EWU.

Instead of implying that the playoff committee, computer ratings, polls, etc. are all wrong, and focusing on a game or two, you need to look at the overall picture/analysis, and face up to reality. I'm started to wonder if all these complaining ND fans are concerned that UM is going to go to ND and beat the Bison.

:thumb:

 

[trouthunter]

One team that was feeling a little slighted by Sunday's playoff announcements on ESPNU was Northern Arizona. The Jacks finished ahead of the Grizzlies in the Big Sky standings and beat Montana in Flagstaff on Sept. 28 but did not receive a bye.


"Pure disrespect," remarked NAU running back Zach Bauman in a Tweet.

Jeff Sagarin Ratings

96 Montana AA = 62.78 10 2 50.74( 174)

131 Northern Arizona AA = 56.25 9 2 50.87( 172)

Wahhhhhhh!

Way to "respect" the Big Sky, get handled at home...


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[Savage74]

That was my point, because a 13 team football league that doesn't give room for the all teams to play each other year in and year out creates this current argument with NAU. Think about if the Griz were placed in the same situation as NAU. I'm sure a lot of opinions on here would change.

I know of NO ONE who likes the 13-team, unbalanced schedule. But, until the day comes where Montana/Montana State/EWU aren't 3 of the top 4 dogs in the conference then the University of Montana Grizzlies will ALWAYS have the toughest schedule because they're the ONLY team in the conference whose two "rival" games are EWU & MSU. EWU's other rival is PSU, while MSU's other rival is UND. In other words, we'll ALWAYS play 2 of the top 3-4 teams (us being one of the other two)...

A 12 team basketball is league is great and about as many schools as you want. However, when it came to the addition of the football schools I probably would have left UC Davis out so there could be a 12 team football league. Maybe the BSC should look to have the U of San Diego to join for football to get to 14. It would give CP a rival and help with league travel plus recruiting.
I don't get Idaho and their constant desire to stay at the FBS level and joining the Sun Belt isn't going to improve their situation. You'll have the Petrino brothers going head-to-head, but no rivals outside of that, because Boise State isn't going to play them every year or at all. Financially it makes zero sense. This was a school who at one time had a great football tradition and they have just destroyed it by trying to do what Boise State has done. I know this goes against the topic, but I really wish the the Vandals would wake up and come back to the BSC in football. I live close to N.Idaho and a majority of the alumnis and populace in NI wish they would go back.