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[brewskis]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

Insert 6-4, 220 lb Caleb Hill right here. Has a good arm, body of a linebacker, and runs like a WR. Big Sky defenses wont like that coming out of the zone read.


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[fanofzoo]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

Insert 6-4, 220 lb Caleb Hill right here. Has a good arm, body of a linebacker, and runs like a WR. Big Sky defenses wont like that coming out of the zone read.


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and he doesn't like you

 

[brewskis]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

Insert 6-4, 220 lb Caleb Hill right here. Has a good arm, body of a linebacker, and runs like a WR. Big Sky defenses wont like that coming out of the zone read.


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and he doesn't like you

Not one bit. Dudes a fierce competitor. I'd love to see his attitude leading this offense.


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[fanofzoo]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

Insert 6-4, 220 lb Caleb Hill right here. Has a good arm, body of a linebacker, and runs like a WR. Big Sky defenses wont like that coming out of the zone read.


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and he doesn't like you

Not one bit. Dudes a fierce competitor. I'd love to see his attitude leading this offense.


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6-4 220 coming out of a 5 yard run and sees you...and he doesn't like you

 

[Grizzly96]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

Insert 6-4, 220 lb Caleb Hill right here. Has a good arm, body of a linebacker, and runs like a WR. Big Sky defenses wont like that coming out of the zone read.


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When everyone gets to know this kid, they will know that when you said "fierce competitor", you hit the nail on the head. He was a 3 sport star in high school and does not care about stats or accolades. He just wants to WIN! Passing, running, or combo of both, whatever it takes. He's described by his teammates as a "dog". That's high praise if you understand how's it's meant.

 

[kemajic]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

And an RB who will run north to south instead of east to west. Notice how much more effective the running game was when Calhoun was in the game? OL play is horribly difficult when you don't know where the RB is going to go. East to west works only for a RB who has break-away speed.

 

[brewskis]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

And an RB who will run north to south instead of east to west. Notice how much more effective the running game was when Calhoun was in the game? OL play is horribly difficult when you don't know where the RB is going to go. East to west works only for a RB who has break-away speed.

If Calhoun had 10 more touches in the MSU game I have no doubt we would have won. I have no earthly idea why we didn't have him out there in the first half.


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[Griz Man]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

And an RB who will run north to south instead of east to west. Notice how much more effective the running game was when Calhoun was in the game? OL play is horribly difficult when you don't know where the RB is going to go. East to west works only for a RB who has break-away speed.

If Calhoun had 10 more touches in the MSU game I have no doubt we would have won. I have no earthly idea why we didn't have him out there in the first half.
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Not that I'm vying for the Captain Obvious award, but wasn't it because Stitt was erring on the side of caution regarding player health vs winning?

 

[brewskis]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

And an RB who will run north to south instead of east to west. Notice how much more effective the running game was when Calhoun was in the game? OL play is horribly difficult when you don't know where the RB is going to go. East to west works only for a RB who has break-away speed.

If Calhoun had 10 more touches in the MSU game I have no doubt we would have won. I have no earthly idea why we didn't have him out there in the first half.
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Not that I'm vying for the Captain Obvious award, but wasn't it because Stitt was erring on the side of caution regarding player health vs winning?

Ah that's right, I forgot he had taken a bad shot in the previous game.


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[Griz Man]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

And an RB who will run north to south instead of east to west. Notice how much more effective the running game was when Calhoun was in the game? OL play is horribly difficult when you don't know where the RB is going to go. East to west works only for a RB who has break-away speed.

I think the tandem of Calhoun / Alijah Lee, with an improvement in the O-line AND a QB who is a better running threat, will do wonders for the running game. Which will in turn open up the passing game. I know, it's the time of the year when hope runs high, but I'm starting to get a little tingly thinking about it

 

[garizzalies]

The comments re Hill sound great but you guys are forgetting the most important attribute for a QB--accuracy. He can have all the leadership skills and competitiveness in the world but without accuracy, he's basically a glorified RB. I'm not convinced he has the accuracy we want, although he could be the best we have. From my limited views, his accuracy seemed average, his windup seemed huge, and his release slow. Usually accuracy is something you're born with, but it goes hand-in-hand with nerves of steel, which he may have.

 

[griz5700]

Not losing the team may be up there too....Just sayin'

You mean a group of upperclassman recruited by another head coach that didn't buy in to what the new coach was trying to do?

If that was the case, yes. It still falls on the HC to lead his players even if it includes a few malcontents.....

I would have been all for benching or kicking them off the team, but it would have just given the mob another reason to lynch him.

Nah. I would have respected that move.

 

[brewskis]

The comments re Hill sound great but you guys are forgetting the most important attribute for a QB--accuracy. He can have all the leadership skills and competitiveness in the world but without accuracy, he's basically a glorified RB. I'm not convinced he has the accuracy we want, although he could be the best we have. From my limited views, his accuracy seemed average, his windup seemed huge, and his release slow. Usually accuracy is something you're born with, but it goes hand-in-hand with nerves of steel, which he may have.

It does look a little funky, but he had no problem scoring in the spring game. He looked a lot better than Phillips.


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[PlayerRep]

The comments re Hill sound great but you guys are forgetting the most important attribute for a QB--accuracy. He can have all the leadership skills and competitiveness in the world but without accuracy, he's basically a glorified RB. I'm not convinced he has the accuracy we want, although he could be the best we have. From my limited views, his accuracy seemed average, his windup seemed huge, and his release slow. Usually accuracy is something you're born with, but it goes hand-in-hand with nerves of steel, which he may have.

Hill was accurate in the spring game. He looked very good. He was playing mostly against the 2d and 3d defenses, but obviously he didn't have the 1st offense either. I don't agree with you on the windup and release comments either, but didn't really pay attention and would be happy to hear what others say in that regard. I think he narrowed the distance with his spring game, but I also believe Phillips will be the starter.

 

[Grizzly96]

The comments re Hill sound great but you guys are forgetting the most important attribute for a QB--accuracy. He can have all the leadership skills and competitiveness in the world but without accuracy, he's basically a glorified RB. I'm not convinced he has the accuracy we want, although he could be the best we have. From my limited views, his accuracy seemed average, his windup seemed huge, and his release slow. Usually accuracy is something you're born with, but it goes hand-in-hand with nerves of steel, which he may have.

Hill was accurate in the spring game. He looked very good. He was playing mostly against the 2d and 3d defenses, but obviously he didn't have the 1st offense either. I don't agree with you on the windup and release comments either, but didn't really pay attention and would be happy to hear what others say in that regard. I think he narrowed the distance with his spring game, but I also believe Phillips will be the starter.

Lefties have a different look throwing the ball period. They throw more 3/4 slot than over the top like righties. He's definitely a QB though and not glorified RB (that was said earlier, not you). His accuracy was not a problem IMO, by the fact he is still learning the offense. Some throws were not an accuracy problem, but timing. He had several great throws that were flat out dropped too. I do feel he was the only QB that improved with each scrimmage and had his best one in more of a game setting.

I know it may not be popular to say, but I'd rather have an incompletion than an INT and he only had one all spring. I believe Phillips will start the season, but Hill will finish it.

 

[Grizzoola]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

And an RB who will run north to south instead of east to west. Notice how much more effective the running game was when Calhoun was in the game? OL play is horribly difficult when you don't know where the RB is going to go. East to west works only for a RB who has break-away speed.

All the OL has to do is open the hole for the RB. After that, the RB can go any way he thinks best to advance the ball.

 

[PlayerRep]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

And an RB who will run north to south instead of east to west. Notice how much more effective the running game was when Calhoun was in the game? OL play is horribly difficult when you don't know where the RB is going to go. East to west works only for a RB who has break-away speed.

All the OL has to do is open the hole for the RB. After that, the RB can go any way he thinks best to advance the ball.

Do you think the UM offense is set up to have a good or effective running game? Doesn't scheme impact the running game too.

 

[Grizzoola]

All the OL has to do is open the hole for the RB. After that, the RB can go any way he thinks best to advance the ball.

Do you think the UM offense is set up to have a good or effective running game? Doesn't scheme impact the running game too?

Yes, scheme does have an impact; but, the intent is to advance the ball beyond the scrimmage line, however achieved, whatever the scheme. Execution is all.

 

[tgreseth]

The comments re Hill sound great but you guys are forgetting the most important attribute for a QB--accuracy. He can have all the leadership skills and competitiveness in the world but without accuracy, he's basically a glorified RB. I'm not convinced he has the accuracy we want, although he could be the best we have. From my limited views, his accuracy seemed average, his windup seemed huge, and his release slow. Usually accuracy is something you're born with, but it goes hand-in-hand with nerves of steel, which he may have.

Hill was accurate in the spring game. He looked very good. He was playing mostly against the 2d and 3d defenses, but obviously he didn't have the 1st offense either. I don't agree with you on the windup and release comments either, but didn't really pay attention and would be happy to hear what others say in that regard. I think he narrowed the distance with his spring game, but I also believe Phillips will be the starter.

Lefties have a different look throwing the ball period. They throw more 3/4 slot than over the top like righties. He's definitely a QB though and not glorified RB (that was said earlier, not you). His accuracy was not a problem IMO, by the fact he is still learning the offense. Some throws were not an accuracy problem, but timing. He had several great throws that were flat out dropped too. I do feel he was the only QB that improved with each scrimmage and had his best one in more of a game setting.

I know it may not be popular to say, but I'd rather have an incompletion than an INT and he only had one all spring. I believe Phillips will start the season, but Hill will finish it.

:thumb:

 

[brewskis]

How much better will our O-line be for having a QB who is a threat. The D-line won't be able to just tee off, they will have to honor the fake, the progression continues.

And an RB who will run north to south instead of east to west. Notice how much more effective the running game was when Calhoun was in the game? OL play is horribly difficult when you don't know where the RB is going to go. East to west works only for a RB who has break-away speed.

All the OL has to do is open the hole for the RB. After that, the RB can go any way he thinks best to advance the ball.

Do you think the UM offense is set up to have a good or effective running game? Doesn't scheme impact the running game too.

I, for one, think that it will be effective. It definitely doesn't look like a traditional offensive running scheme....but that's okay.

I think that Rey Green was made for this offense, and that he will have multiple huge seasons at Montana. He's got size, quickness, the breakaway speed, and vision. He'll be able to take those inside zones and read whether it's there or not, and he can beat a DE or OLB around the edge if he bounces it.


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