Pre-season grades

[Atlanta Griz1]

Man you can't make this shat up! This thread is a great idea...started by someone that people have issues with...turns right into "Dill this" and "Alpha that". We all know who we agree with, who are douches, who sugar coats, who circle jerks the players etc. How about we give our take and have a discussion? mine are based only on reports so...

OL D-hopefully stay healthy and pick up the system
DL A-will be a solid force for this team if healthy as well
QB B- -I think anything higher than this people are smoking something. need to have time in the offense for A
RB D+-injury bug, lack of blocking hurts this group. if given a chance I'm sure will be at least a B
WR B+-some drops from what I've heard. Great talent and potential for A+
LB A- -if healthy and not getting into off field issues, will end up A+ as well
CB B-people talking about good play from the corners. love that. last year was a major complaint on here
S B-again improved overall IMO. I think Sanders will be big player this year after a few weeks.
ST F-but it's always iffy on ST in preseason. kinks will get worked out and will end up a B- for the year

Good analysis. Thank you. Don't agree on your ST prediction for a B- by the end of the year. Don't think we have the coaching who understands the ST game to get there, nor do we have the talented players to get there, unless we start playing more starters on ST.

 

[biga75]

My grades are based upon a comparison of the current units to the standard Griz units of past teams.
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Can we get a ruling on what the Standard Griz Unit of past teams is? I would imagine that the teams back in the "glory days" of MT football each had weaknesses that varied from year to year, so how can one define what the "SGU" is?

 

[AZGrizFan]

Most seem pretty accurate to me. Mabey a -C to the O line now. They have made improvements, unless Schmaing didn't get back in there. Luke seems to be doing a better job then at 1st. We should also probably grade them on a curve since they're going up against an -A D line Ana an A LB corps. Also would Give Brady at least a -B above the rest of the QB's and agree the safeties should be a little higher. The RB's deffenetly need to improve some though they are dependent on the O line beating our D line.

Thanks for the contribution. See what I mean about the idiots who post on here? They couldn't discuss football in a Little Grizzly coaching strategy session. They offer nothing, except to take shots at me. They are not interested in talking football. They would rather make stupid-assed quips to try to convince people that they are wits. At least they are half right.

The irony in this statement can not POSSIBLY escape you, can it? :? :? :?

 

[Htowngriz]

My grades are based upon a comparison of the current units to the standard Griz units of past teams.
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Can we get a ruling on what the Standard Griz Unit of past teams is? I would imagine that the teams back in the "glory days" of MT football each had weaknesses that varied from year to year, so how can one define what the "SGU" is?

He's just comparing them to Hauck's teams, who went undefeated every season and won the national championship. Except for the times they didn't.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

I think this thread is of little value for grading or predicting what this team will do, especially on the offensive side of the ball. These scrimmages were designed to get film on all potential players at each position of the offense. Stitt has made a career of coaching inferior athletes into winning teams based on their ability to know the offense, know their assignments, and execute as best they can. Spring ball was to weed out those players who weren't able to grasp the concepts or assignments. I suspected a large scale weeding of players who were never going to start but would be dragged along by the prior staff would be leaving the program, and that has happened. Stitt will play guys who know what to do and execute that over players with superior physical attributes and skills who aren't keeping up. The practices and fall scrimmages have accomplished what he wants, finding out who can best play the positions. They were never designed to produce a well-oiled machine at this stage.

The remaining practices will be where the 1's hone playing as a unit on offense, and the plays that have been kept under wraps will be installed. The first true test of the offense, we won't see or be able to grade because the remaining scrimmages are closed. I expect the game planning and film study for NDSU will be something none of these players have ever experienced before, and they will be ready to play, and play better than is expected on this board.

And to ATL-1. I can appreciate you want to now shed your prior persona. But the true measure isn't a one thread rehabilitation. Rob Lowe's ability to kick the addictions on the umpteenth try was signaled when he finally accepted that none of his critics should accept his word of recovery, but only his conduct in the years to come. Had your response to the doubters here been one of accepting graciously why they would respond with disbelief and barbs, I would have concluded you were serious about sticking to football. Chicken Little wasn't rehabilitated in a day, so let's see how you are doing say mid-season. I'm sure us half-wits can be won over with time.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

Most seem pretty accurate to me. Mabey a -C to the O line now. They have made improvements, unless Schmaing didn't get back in there. Luke seems to be doing a better job then at 1st. We should also probably grade them on a curve since they're going up against an -A D line Ana an A LB corps. Also would Give Brady at least a -B above the rest of the QB's and agree the safeties should be a little higher. The RB's deffenetly need to improve some though they are dependent on the O line beating our D line.

Thanks for the contribution. See what I mean about the idiots who post on here? They couldn't discuss football in a Little Grizzly coaching strategy session. They offer nothing, except to take shots at me. They are not interested in talking football. They would rather make stupid-assed quips to try to convince people that they are wits. At least they are half right.

The irony in this statement can not POSSIBLY escape you, can it? :? :? :?

Funny stuff. You are front and center, my short-peckered buddy

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

My grades are based upon a comparison of the current units to the standard Griz units of past teams.
-

Can we get a ruling on what the Standard Griz Unit of past teams is? I would imagine that the teams back in the "glory days" of MT football each had weaknesses that varied from year to year, so how can one define what the "SGU" is?

He's just comparing them to Hauck's teams, who went undefeated every season and won the national championship. Except for the times they didn't.

At least he got to the chipper, and we were ranked in the top 5 nationally every year he coached. next!

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Most seem pretty accurate to me. Mabey a -C to the O line now. They have made improvements, unless Schmaing didn't get back in there. Luke seems to be doing a better job then at 1st. We should also probably grade them on a curve since they're going up against an -A D line Ana an A LB corps. Also would Give Brady at least a -B above the rest of the QB's and agree the safeties should be a little higher. The RB's deffenetly need to improve some though they are dependent on the O line beating our D line.

Thanks for the contribution. See what I mean about the idiots who post on here? They couldn't discuss football in a Little Grizzly coaching strategy session. They offer nothing, except to take shots at me. They are not interested in talking football. They would rather make stupid-assed quips to try to convince people that they are wits. At least they are half right.

I don't agree with our safeties being higher. They have shown me little in the scrimmages. Remember the three long TD passes? Poor safety play.

Good point on the deep balls. Also those are the ONLY TD's givin' up I beleive. Haven't been able to watch them in person yet so I'm only judging off other people's observations. I know Whitted is a hitter and mabey not so much a cover guy. Rasmussen and Y. Sanders are still learning the system but are pretty much unknowns on how their cover skills. Dallasarra, as much as people like the local boys, I'm not sure he has what it takes to be a D1 starting safety. Johnson, coming in from the JuCo was supposed to be a ball hawker but hasn't really shown it yet. A lot DB JuCo's take a year to catch up though. Mabey he'll show it this year.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Most seem pretty accurate to me. Mabey a -C to the O line now. They have made improvements, unless Schmaing didn't get back in there. Luke seems to be doing a better job then at 1st. We should also probably grade them on a curve since they're going up against an -A D line Ana an A LB corps. Also would Give Brady at least a -B above the rest of the QB's and agree the safeties should be a little higher. The RB's deffenetly need to improve some though they are dependent on the O line beating our D line.

Thanks for the contribution. See what I mean about the idiots who post on here? They couldn't discuss football in a Little Grizzly coaching strategy session. They offer nothing, except to take shots at me. They are not interested in talking football. They would rather make stupid-assed quips to try to convince people that they are wits. At least they are half right.

The irony in this statement can not POSSIBLY escape you, can it? :? :? :?

Funny stuff. You are front and center, my short-peckered buddy

So, the irony DOES escape you, then. :lol: :lol:

 

[AZGrizFan]

My grades are based upon a comparison of the current units to the standard Griz units of past teams.
-

Can we get a ruling on what the Standard Griz Unit of past teams is? I would imagine that the teams back in the "glory days" of MT football each had weaknesses that varied from year to year, so how can one define what the "SGU" is?

He's just comparing them to Hauck's teams, who went undefeated every season and won the national championship. Except for the times they didn't.

At least he got to the chipper, and we were ranked in the top 5 nationally every year he coached. next!

I see. So just making shit up is good enough?

End of season rank of BH-coached teams:
2003: #14
2004: #2
2005: #12
2006: #3
2007: #10
2008: #2
2009: #3

 

[Htowngriz]

My grades are based upon a comparison of the current units to the standard Griz units of past teams.
-

Can we get a ruling on what the Standard Griz Unit of past teams is? I would imagine that the teams back in the "glory days" of MT football each had weaknesses that varied from year to year, so how can one define what the "SGU" is?

He's just comparing them to Hauck's teams, who went undefeated every season and won the national championship. Except for the times they didn't.

At least he got to the chipper, and we were ranked in the top 5 nationally every year he coached. next!

Pflugrad got us to the cusp of the chipper in his second year before the shit hit the fan. Delaney was a stop gap who was never intended to take us to the promised land. Stitt hasn't coached a down that counts yet.

So who, exactly, are you bitching about?

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

A 3-year "stop-gap" head coach. funny shit, and exactly what I am talking about in accepting mediocrity.

 

[bgbigdog]

Has there been a test yet? Not sure I would consider maroon on maroon violence much more than practice. We're talking about practice.

 

[Htowngriz]

A 3-year "stop-gap" head coach. funny shit, and exactly what I am talking about in accepting mediocrity.

Really? That's the only point you're going to (poorly) address? You really are an idiot of Alpha proportions. :roll:

 

[cclarkblues]

A 3-year "stop-gap" head coach. funny shit, and exactly what I am talking about in accepting mediocrity.

So what did YOU do about it?

 

[Umista]

Atlanta, remember you just got out of re-hab.

Temper temper.....

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

Most seem pretty accurate to me. Mabey a -C to the O line now. They have made improvements, unless Schmaing didn't get back in there. Luke seems to be doing a better job then at 1st. We should also probably grade them on a curve since they're going up against an -A D line Ana an A LB corps. Also would Give Brady at least a -B above the rest of the QB's and agree the safeties should be a little higher. The RB's deffenetly need to improve some though they are dependent on the O line beating our D line.

Thanks for the contribution. See what I mean about the idiots who post on here? They couldn't discuss football in a Little Grizzly coaching strategy session. They offer nothing, except to take shots at me. They are not interested in talking football. They would rather make stupid-assed quips to try to convince people that they are wits. At least they are half right.

I don't agree with our safeties being higher. They have shown me little in the scrimmages. Remember the three long TD passes? Poor safety play.

Good point on the deep balls. Also those are the ONLY TD's givin' up I beleive. Haven't been able to watch them in person yet so I'm only judging off other people's observations. I know Whitted is a hitter and mabey not so much a cover guy. Rasmussen and Y. Sanders are still learning the system but are pretty much unknowns on how their cover skills. Dallasarra, as much as people like the local boys, I'm not sure he has what it takes to be a D1 starting safety. Johnson, coming in from the JuCo was supposed to be a ball hawker but hasn't really shown it yet. A lot DB JuCo's take a year to catch up though. Mabey he'll show it this year.

Our Safety rotation (1 and 2 string) have performed awesome in fall camp. :arrow:

1 long TD, from Chalich to Henderson, involved blown coverage by Safety Delaney.

1 long TD, from Simis to Roberts, was Roberts flat-out beating CB Moody up the sideline.

Neither of these two defenders will see meaningful defensive time.