Pre-Fall camp discussion 2 - The defense & specialists

[mthoopsfan]

My complaint with the 3-3-5 at UM has been to do with slot coverages. For five seasons, teams like SacState, and Eastern have put their top receivers in slots, knowing the cornerbacks wouldn't be there to run with them. It's not five DB's with the same cover skills. It's three safties who are expected to support the run stop efforts, first, and two corners, mostly on islands which is why Corbin and Ford were so valuable.

If you've got two good corners, then you're less vulnerable to overloading slots strategy with trips packages. Maybe this year, if he has the luxury, Bradford goes with three corners against the heavy passing teams like CPSLO. Hoping the rush gets to the QB in time seems like.a problem strategy for dealing with a passing game, but that's likely just me.

Corners don’t cover slot receivers. They cover outside receivers. Outside receivers can sometimes run a slant route. Cotton is a good coverage guy. Nice speed. Part of the 3-3-5 blitzing strategy is to get to the qb early and rattle him. 2 of our 3 “safeties” have had significant pass responsibilities. Only RH was more run support. The new d-line coach knows the 3-3-5. Yes, corner is an important position.

 

[AZGrizFan]

My complaint with the 3-3-5 at UM has been to do with slot coverages. For five seasons, teams like SacState, and Eastern have put their top receivers in slots, knowing the cornerbacks wouldn't be there to run with them. It's not five DB's with the same cover skills. It's three safties who are expected to support the run stop efforts, first, and two corners, mostly on islands which is why Corbin and Ford were so valuable.

If you've got two good corners, then you're less vulnerable to overloading slots strategy with trips packages. Maybe this year, if he has the luxury, Bradford goes with three corners against the heavy passing teams like CPSLO. Hoping the rush gets to the QB in time seems like.a problem strategy for dealing with a passing game, but that's likely just me.

Corners don’t cover slot receivers. They cover outside receivers. Outside receivers can sometimes run a slant route. Cotton is a good coverage guy. Nice speed. Part of the 3-3-5 blitzing strategy is to get to the qb early and rattle him. 2 of our 3 “safeties” have had significant pass responsibilities. Only RH was more run support. The new d-line coach knows the 3-3-5. Yes, corner is an important position.

But if the opposing team is putting their best receiver in the slot, wouldn’t it make sense to have a corner cover him?

 

[ElrodGrizzly]

My complaint with the 3-3-5 at UM has been to do with slot coverages. For five seasons, teams like SacState, and Eastern have put their top receivers in slots, knowing the cornerbacks wouldn't be there to run with them. It's not five DB's with the same cover skills. It's three safties who are expected to support the run stop efforts, first, and two corners, mostly on islands which is why Corbin and Ford were so valuable.

If you've got two good corners, then you're less vulnerable to overloading slots strategy with trips packages. Maybe this year, if he has the luxury, Bradford goes with three corners against the heavy passing teams like CPSLO. Hoping the rush gets to the QB in time seems like.a problem strategy for dealing with a passing game, but that's likely just me.

Corners don’t cover slot receivers. They cover outside receivers. Outside receivers can sometimes run a slant route. Cotton is a good coverage guy. Nice speed. Part of the 3-3-5 blitzing strategy is to get to the qb early and rattle him. 2 of our 3 “safeties” have had significant pass responsibilities. Only RH was more run support. The new d-line coach knows the 3-3-5. Yes, corner is an important position.

I will defer to you on issues of corner backing, but one thing to add is that the position of nickel corner and free safety are starting to blend together in all defenses, including the NFL. They used to be distinct players and positions, but are now less so. A hybrid like that led the League in interceptions last year.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Corners don’t cover slot receivers. They cover outside receivers. Outside receivers can sometimes run a slant route. Cotton is a good coverage guy. Nice speed. Part of the 3-3-5 blitzing strategy is to get to the qb early and rattle him. 2 of our 3 “safeties” have had significant pass responsibilities. Only RH was more run support. The new d-line coach knows the 3-3-5. Yes, corner is an important position.

I will defer to you on issues of corner backing, but one thing to add is that the position of nickel corner and free safety are starting to blend together in all defenses, including the NFL. They used to be distinct players and positions, but are now less so. A hybrid like that led the League in interceptions last year.

I agree. I think the Griz intermingle one safety and nickel from play to play. I think that is by design, to confuse the offense. I don’t know enough about 3-3-5 or UM’s coverage to figure the coverage out. But I talked to one of the d-backs about this briefly.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Corners don’t cover slot receivers. They cover outside receivers. Outside receivers can sometimes run a slant route. Cotton is a good coverage guy. Nice speed. Part of the 3-3-5 blitzing strategy is to get to the qb early and rattle him. 2 of our 3 “safeties” have had significant pass responsibilities. Only RH was more run support. The new d-line coach knows the 3-3-5. Yes, corner is an important position.

But if the opposing team is putting their best receiver in the slot, wouldn’t it make sense to have a corner cover him?

Not to my knowledge.

 

[Missoula223]

Corners don’t cover slot receivers. They cover outside receivers. Outside receivers can sometimes run a slant route. Cotton is a good coverage guy. Nice speed. Part of the 3-3-5 blitzing strategy is to get to the qb early and rattle him. 2 of our 3 “safeties” have had significant pass responsibilities. Only RH was more run support. The new d-line coach knows the 3-3-5. Yes, corner is an important position.

But if the opposing team is putting their best receiver in the slot, wouldn’t it make sense to have a corner cover him?

Yes and no. 1, if you all of a sudden switch your corner and nickel you tip that you are playing man coverage. Also, the guy that covers slots has to be able to set an edge in the run game and the perimeter pass game. If I’m a OC and I see a true corner at slot, I’m going to find ways to make him fit and get off blocks. Very difficult to find an athlete with all of those attributes.

Slots are hard. It’s why spread formations are ran nationwide. The entire route tree is open to them.

 

[bgbigdog]

But if the opposing team is putting their best receiver in the slot, wouldn’t it make sense to have a corner cover him?

Yes and no. 1, if you all of a sudden switch your corner and nickel you tip that you are playing man coverage. Also, the guy that covers slots has to be able to set an edge in the run game and the perimeter pass game. If I’m a OC and I see a true corner at slot, I’m going to find ways to make him fit and get off blocks. Very difficult to find an athlete with all of those attributes.

Slots are hard. It’s why spread formations are ran nationwide. The entire route tree is open to them.

Theyre going to play cover 2, regardless of whether there's a slot corner or not. I was advocating as a change of pace, likely for downs when the yardage is long and the tendency is to put the ball up. You know, perhaps situational in nature. Or when they're playing a team like CPSLO was last season, four receiver sets as the norm. Four wide receiver sets, as proven by Stitt conclusively, aren't much for pounding the rock, thus perhaps no need to set an edge. The also play a wide and boundary side switch with the safeties, so there's a right and left handed component. That's not easy either. .

Cotton is close to the slot corner and is almost always off the ball. He seldom sets anything. Hauck was the guy who ran the alleys and set edges when needed. Again, I'm talking about trips sets and when they'd like a change of pace, perhaps a straight man to man defense once in a while. I would suggest locking down the other teams best receiver, like a Hatten - if that's possible, puts a lot of pressure on the other team to find the lesser weapons. Or they could just continue doing what they're doing. And if they continue to think the weakness in coverage is in the slot, that's where they're going to put their best.

 

[ElrodGrizzly]

Yes and no. 1, if you all of a sudden switch your corner and nickel you tip that you are playing man coverage. Also, the guy that covers slots has to be able to set an edge in the run game and the perimeter pass game. If I’m a OC and I see a true corner at slot, I’m going to find ways to make him fit and get off blocks. Very difficult to find an athlete with all of those attributes.

Slots are hard. It’s why spread formations are ran nationwide. The entire route tree is open to them.

Theyre going to play cover 2, regardless of whether there's a slot corner or not. I was advocating as a change of pace, likely for downs when the yardage is long and the tendency is to put the ball up. You know, perhaps situational in nature. Or when they're playing a team like CPSLO was last season, four receiver sets as the norm. Four wide receiver sets, as proven by Stitt conclusively, aren't much for pounding the rock, thus perhaps no need to set an edge. The also play a wide and boundary side switch with the safeties, so there's a right and left handed component. That's not easy either. .

Cotton is close to the slot corner and is almost always off the ball. He seldom sets anything. Hauck was the guy who ran the alleys and set edges when needed. Again, I'm talking about trips sets and when they'd like a change of pace, perhaps a straight man to man defense once in a while. I would suggest locking down the other teams best receiver, like a Hatten - if that's possible, puts a lot of pressure on the other team to find the lesser weapons. Or they could just continue doing what they're doing. And if they continue to think the weakness in coverage is in the slot, that's where they're going to put their best.

I say this as an honest question, because I sadly missed the Idaho game last year. Did we not have one of our corners covering Hatten? Were they lining him up in the slot primarily?

Again, honestly don't know and tonight I can't go re-watch a game.

 

[thirdandlong]

My complaint with the 3-3-5 at UM has been to do with slot coverages. For five seasons, teams like SacState, and Eastern have put their top receivers in slots, knowing the cornerbacks wouldn't be there to run with them. It's not five DB's with the same cover skills. It's three safties who are expected to support the run stop efforts, first, and two corners, mostly on islands which is why Corbin and Ford were so valuable.

If you've got two good corners, then you're less vulnerable to overloading slots strategy with trips packages. Maybe this year, if he has the luxury, Bradford goes with three corners against the heavy passing teams like CPSLO. Hoping the rush gets to the QB in time seems like.a problem strategy for dealing with a passing game, but that's likely just me.

My complaint with the 3-3-5 is that any balanced offense which includes a solid running game will gouge our defense running the ball once again like it has done every season since Hauck became enamored with that defense. You can already pencil-in the Bobcats putting up 400+ rushing yards before the game is played.

Oh, I know, PR will immediately want to bet $1000 that the Cats don't run for 400. I'll save him the keystrokes.

But thanks for the actual football discussion. It's refreshing to that some posters can contribute to a real football discussion.

 

[Colter_Nuanez56]

Coach Hauck talked a lot about the defense and the off-season, plus why they do an intensive install, today before practice. About 30 min in.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Xr2i3aNWgWSEOacD74tfK?si=02526384569f4cfc

 

[mthoopsfan]

My complaint with the 3-3-5 at UM has been to do with slot coverages. For five seasons, teams like SacState, and Eastern have put their top receivers in slots, knowing the cornerbacks wouldn't be there to run with them. It's not five DB's with the same cover skills. It's three safties who are expected to support the run stop efforts, first, and two corners, mostly on islands which is why Corbin and Ford were so valuable.

If you've got two good corners, then you're less vulnerable to overloading slots strategy with trips packages. Maybe this year, if he has the luxury, Bradford goes with three corners against the heavy passing teams like CPSLO. Hoping the rush gets to the QB in time seems like.a problem strategy for dealing with a passing game, but that's likely just me.

My complaint with the 3-3-5 is that any balanced offense which includes a solid running game will gouge our defense running the ball once again like it has done every season since Hauck became enamored with that defense. You can already pencil-in the Bobcats putting up 400+ rushing yards before the game is played.

Oh, I know, PR will immediately want to bet $1000 that the Cats don't run for 400. I'll save him the keystrokes.

But thanks for the actual football discussion. It's refreshing to that some posters can contribute to a real football discussion.

Cats ran over Griz mainly because of mistakes by D. Overreactions. Incorrect reactions. Stepping the wrong way. Perhaps some was scheme too. Look at the tape. Also, good execution by Cats.

Griz will beat Cats this season. And I know you don’t have enough money for a big bet.

 

[poorgriz]

My complaint with the 3-3-5 is that any balanced offense which includes a solid running game will gouge our defense running the ball once again like it has done every season since Hauck became enamored with that defense. You can already pencil-in the Bobcats putting up 400+ rushing yards before the game is played.

Oh, I know, PR will immediately want to bet $1000 that the Cats don't run for 400. I'll save him the keystrokes.

But thanks for the actual football discussion. It's refreshing to that some posters can contribute to a real football discussion.

Cats ran over Griz mainly because of mistakes by D. Overreactions. Incorrect reactions. Stepping the wrong way. Perhaps some was scheme too. Look at the tape. Also, good execution by Cats.

Griz will beat Cats this season. And I know you don’t have enough money for a big bet.

Well you're sure committed to the idea that the griz are somehow going to beat the Cats, we'll see how it all plays out. The only guarantee here is that if the griz do lose to the Cats, you'll be the first poster to say something like, "With a healthy Vidlak, griz would have won."

 

[thirdandlong]

My complaint with the 3-3-5 is that any balanced offense which includes a solid running game will gouge our defense running the ball once again like it has done every season since Hauck became enamored with that defense. You can already pencil-in the Bobcats putting up 400+ rushing yards before the game is played.

Oh, I know, PR will immediately want to bet $1000 that the Cats don't run for 400. I'll save him the keystrokes.

But thanks for the actual football discussion. It's refreshing to that some posters can contribute to a real football discussion.

Cats ran over Griz mainly because of mistakes by D. Overreactions. Incorrect reactions. Stepping the wrong way. Perhaps some was scheme too. Look at the tape. Also, good execution by Cats.

Griz will beat Cats this season. And I know you don’t have enough money for a big bet.

No, I just don't bet with creepy stalkers

 

[Copper Griz]

3-3-5 isn’t a great defensive scheme against a power run team. Griz got rolled by NDSU and MSU. Sugarcoat it however you want. TCU also got smoked in the big game and couldn’t stop the run. Griz offense will be better and they will be able to control the clock more. Bradford is a smart coach and I hope he doesn’t exclusively run 3-3-5 all year. Problem being - no drop down interior D Linemen. Hauck is gone and his high number of tackles occurred for a reason. Not a good reason. We shall see, but jury is out until they play a solid run team.

 

[bgbigdog]

Theyre going to play cover 2, regardless of whether there's a slot corner or not. I was advocating as a change of pace, likely for downs when the yardage is long and the tendency is to put the ball up. You know, perhaps situational in nature. Or when they're playing a team like CPSLO was last season, four receiver sets as the norm. Four wide receiver sets, as proven by Stitt conclusively, aren't much for pounding the rock, thus perhaps no need to set an edge. The also play a wide and boundary side switch with the safeties, so there's a right and left handed component. That's not easy either. .

Cotton is close to the slot corner and is almost always off the ball. He seldom sets anything. Hauck was the guy who ran the alleys and set edges when needed. Again, I'm talking about trips sets and when they'd like a change of pace, perhaps a straight man to man defense once in a while. I would suggest locking down the other teams best receiver, like a Hatten - if that's possible, puts a lot of pressure on the other team to find the lesser weapons. Or they could just continue doing what they're doing. And if they continue to think the weakness in coverage is in the slot, that's where they're going to put their best.

I say this as an honest question, because I sadly missed the Idaho game last year. Did we not have one of our corners covering Hatten? Were they lining him up in the slot primarily?

Again, honestly don't know and tonight I can't go re-watch a game.

Hatten had 150 against Montana that day. He had more than 200 against SELA in the playoff game. He's a great player. In addition, his teammate Jackson, is the next best receiver. It's a tough assignment to do anything with them.

I have no inside information to base this on, but my hunch is Bradford will change things up a bit, situationally, so that it doesn't look the same to every opponent, every week. It's been five years of the same thing, week in and out. The blitzing worked early, but teams began to understand how it was structured, and particularly after OC was injured, it got less effective. Thats why I've been harping on the need to find a down lineman who can put pressure on a passer without there being two backers trying to shoot gaps every play. Keeping the other sideline off-balance seems to me to be as important as assuming you can just out-tough them. Eck's onsides kick at the start of the second half is proof of that. That turned the game in their favor.

 

[Missoula223]

Yes and no. 1, if you all of a sudden switch your corner and nickel you tip that you are playing man coverage. Also, the guy that covers slots has to be able to set an edge in the run game and the perimeter pass game. If I’m a OC and I see a true corner at slot, I’m going to find ways to make him fit and get off blocks. Very difficult to find an athlete with all of those attributes.

Slots are hard. It’s why spread formations are ran nationwide. The entire route tree is open to them.

Theyre going to play cover 2, regardless of whether there's a slot corner or not. I was advocating as a change of pace, likely for downs when the yardage is long and the tendency is to put the ball up. You know, perhaps situational in nature. Or when they're playing a team like CPSLO was last season, four receiver sets as the norm. Four wide receiver sets, as proven by Stitt conclusively, aren't much for pounding the rock, thus perhaps no need to set an edge. The also play a wide and boundary side switch with the safeties, so there's a right and left handed component. That's not easy either. .

Cotton is close to the slot corner and is almost always off the ball. He seldom sets anything. Hauck was the guy who ran the alleys and set edges when needed. Again, I'm talking about trips sets and when they'd like a change of pace, perhaps a straight man to man defense once in a while. I would suggest locking down the other teams best receiver, like a Hatten - if that's possible, puts a lot of pressure on the other team to find the lesser weapons. Or they could just continue doing what they're doing. And if they continue to think the weakness in coverage is in the slot, that's where they're going to put their best.

I am genuinely not being a smart ass but I have no idea what you mean when you say they’re going to play cover 2 whether it’s a slot corner or not. Are you saying if they switch the corner and nickel spot they will play 2 as opposed to man free? That’s fairly easy to do if you are playing Tampa but it doesn’t do anything to take away a slot. I would argue you’re going to be better off in cover 3 so you can re-route that guy. Also fairly easy to do, but doesn’t take care of the fact that that guy is going to have to get off blocks.

I would guess that Montana played maybe 50-100 snaps of true cover 2 last season tops. My point to the previous poster was simply that its not easy to switch the spots between the corner and Cottons position.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Theyre going to play cover 2, regardless of whether there's a slot corner or not. I was advocating as a change of pace, likely for downs when the yardage is long and the tendency is to put the ball up. You know, perhaps situational in nature. Or when they're playing a team like CPSLO was last season, four receiver sets as the norm. Four wide receiver sets, as proven by Stitt conclusively, aren't much for pounding the rock, thus perhaps no need to set an edge. The also play a wide and boundary side switch with the safeties, so there's a right and left handed component. That's not easy either. .

Cotton is close to the slot corner and is almost always off the ball. He seldom sets anything. Hauck was the guy who ran the alleys and set edges when needed. Again, I'm talking about trips sets and when they'd like a change of pace, perhaps a straight man to man defense once in a while. I would suggest locking down the other teams best receiver, like a Hatten - if that's possible, puts a lot of pressure on the other team to find the lesser weapons. Or they could just continue doing what they're doing. And if they continue to think the weakness in coverage is in the slot, that's where they're going to put their best.

I am genuinely not being a smart ass but I have no idea what you mean when you say they’re going to play cover 2 whether it’s a slot corner or not. Are you saying if they switch the corner and nickel spot they will play 2 as opposed to man free? That’s fairly easy to do if you are playing Tampa but it doesn’t do anything to take away a slot. I would argue you’re going to be better off in cover 3 so you can re-route that guy. Also fairly easy to do, but doesn’t take care of the fact that that guy is going to have to get off blocks.

I would guess that Montana played maybe 50-100 snaps of true cover 2 last season tops. My point to the previous poster was simply that its not easy to switch the spots between the corner and Cottons position.

I said the same thing as your last Para. And it’s almost never done. 3 corners can be played, but I would never switch the corner and the 5. In any defense. There’s reason safeties don’t play corner. Cotton might be able to switch positions to corner. He’s athletic and fast. But Cotton is a better 5 than most or virtually all who are playing corner.

 

[bgbigdog]

Theyre going to play cover 2, regardless of whether there's a slot corner or not. I was advocating as a change of pace, likely for downs when the yardage is long and the tendency is to put the ball up. You know, perhaps situational in nature. Or when they're playing a team like CPSLO was last season, four receiver sets as the norm. Four wide receiver sets, as proven by Stitt conclusively, aren't much for pounding the rock, thus perhaps no need to set an edge. The also play a wide and boundary side switch with the safeties, so there's a right and left handed component. That's not easy either. .

Cotton is close to the slot corner and is almost always off the ball. He seldom sets anything. Hauck was the guy who ran the alleys and set edges when needed. Again, I'm talking about trips sets and when they'd like a change of pace, perhaps a straight man to man defense once in a while. I would suggest locking down the other teams best receiver, like a Hatten - if that's possible, puts a lot of pressure on the other team to find the lesser weapons. Or they could just continue doing what they're doing. And if they continue to think the weakness in coverage is in the slot, that's where they're going to put their best.

I am genuinely not being a smart ass but I have no idea what you mean when you say they’re going to play cover 2 whether it’s a slot corner or not. Are you saying if they switch the corner and nickel spot they will play 2 as opposed to man free? That’s fairly easy to do if you are playing Tampa but it doesn’t do anything to take away a slot. I would argue you’re going to be better off in cover 3 so you can re-route that guy. Also fairly easy to do, but doesn’t take care of the fact that that guy is going to have to get off blocks.

I would guess that Montana played maybe 50-100 snaps of true cover 2 last season tops. My point to the previous poster was simply that its not easy to switch the spots between the corner and Cottons position.

I genuinely am a smart ass, which you've aready gathered.

Regardless of the cover strategy they use, cover two, three or man, they're only as effective as their ability to get home in the pass rush. Can we agree on that? Even Ford was taken advantage of against the better receivers when the rush wasn't as effective. And the rush, 90% or more of the time, comes from the backers. Meaning the remainder of the eight guys set up behind the line of scrimmage have to cover more ground. And as you point out, they're called safties for a reason. Putting your best in the slot, means they will most often be matched up against a safety or a linebacker at times. That's called looking for an advantage.

I was suggesting a situational use of a third corner, when they anticipate an opportunity to leverage an advantage of their own, down and distance, or to address the strategies of the other teams who may use trips packages and four wides as a prominent feature of their offenses. Not that they permanently switch them out. I'm also hoping Bradford can do more to manufacture a pass rush from the front three, like TCU has been able to do, so that there are fewer holes and more bodies in the passing lanes.

Every team they played last year, utilized some form of situational substitution strategy to try to find an advantage on defense. Seems like that is worthwhile strategy to explore. Maybe that's a down lineman who can rush the passer in passing situations, or a slot corner to help take away the advantage the other guys are trying to leverage.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Cats ran over Griz mainly because of mistakes by D. Overreactions. Incorrect reactions. Stepping the wrong way. Perhaps some was scheme too. Look at the tape. Also, good execution by Cats.

Griz will beat Cats this season. And I know you don’t have enough money for a big bet.

No, I just don't bet with creepy stalkers

You are the creepy stalker. In just last fews weeks, you have talked multiple times about one of my football teammates who was/is a good friend, claimed he was all-conference (when he never started a game) and didn't like me. Mentioned the name of one of my former partners. Mentioned my wife's name. And keep saying Mo Club bartenders don't like. I haven't hung out in the Mo Club for over a decade. I only know Shane and Beau, who are good friends, and maybe a couple others. You are the definition of stalker.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I am genuinely not being a smart ass but I have no idea what you mean when you say they’re going to play cover 2 whether it’s a slot corner or not. Are you saying if they switch the corner and nickel spot they will play 2 as opposed to man free? That’s fairly easy to do if you are playing Tampa but it doesn’t do anything to take away a slot. I would argue you’re going to be better off in cover 3 so you can re-route that guy. Also fairly easy to do, but doesn’t take care of the fact that that guy is going to have to get off blocks.

I would guess that Montana played maybe 50-100 snaps of true cover 2 last season tops. My point to the previous poster was simply that its not easy to switch the spots between the corner and Cottons position.

I genuinely am a smart ass, which you've aready gathered.

Regardless of the cover strategy they use, cover two, three or man, they're only as effective as their ability to get home in the pass rush. Can we agree on that? Even Ford was taken advantage of against the better receivers when the rush wasn't as effective. And the rush, 90% or more of the time, comes from the backers. Meaning the remainder of the eight guys set up behind the line of scrimmage have to cover more ground. And as you point out, they're called safties for a reason. Putting your best in the slot, means they will most often be matched up against a safety or a linebacker at times. That's called looking for an advantage. I enjoy your posts and read all of them.

I was suggesting a situational use of a third corner, when they anticipate an opportunity to leverage an advantage of their own, down and distance, or to address the strategies of the other teams who may use trips packages and four wides as a prominent feature of their offenses. Not that they permanently switch them out. I'm also hoping Bradford can do more to manufacture a pass rush from the front three, like TCU has been able to do, so that there are fewer holes and more bodies in the passing lanes.

Every team they played last year, utilized some form of situational substitution strategy to try to find an advantage on defense. Seems like that is worthwhile strategy to explore. Maybe that's a down lineman who can rush the passer in passing situations, or a slot corner to help take away the advantage the other guys are trying to leverage.

I see what you are saying about a good pass rush, but pass defense is much more than a good pass rush. It is also good coverage, good schemes and good calls for the situation. Remember, corner was my position, and I still follow secondary play and talk to the Griz secondary coaches and some players on occasion.