Post Game: SSDD (updated)

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Quit living in the past, Hauck got rolled AGAIN today and so did Delaney

I would pick Delaney over Hauck any day of the week.

 

[Potomac Griz]

Quit living in the past, Hauck got rolled AGAIN today and so did Delaney

I would pick Delaney over Hauck any day of the week.

I might too, unless that day was Saturday...

 

[BWahlberg]

Memes heal all

 

[grizatwork]

Watching the DVR recording right now, and I am just amazed at how much we zone blitz. We are actually pretty predictable at it. We take Harris and Wags who really get after the quarterback and then rush our linebackers who have better coverage skills. I think it is a good wrinkle now and then, but Ty really seems to be doing it way too much. We are leaving the flats open too much as a result. If you do it all the time, it is no longer a surprise, and opposing teams can plan for it.

 

[mikegriz]

Forgot to add, 3rd and 3 on the UND 40 and Rosey calls a trick option pitch to the WR, with SSH as our QB. That call turned the tide, UND got on a roll again with offense and the Griz went STONE cold.

That was brilliant..use a WR (and one that tackles very easily) like a running back. I almost uke:

 

[George Ferguson]

Brint, you're first post, the part about the offense and the fourth quarter was so on the money. How many possesions did the O have the ball AFTER they went up 34-31? I know three in a row in the fourth for sure, but I think it at least had to be two more than that dating back to the third. As BAD as the defense was, and there's no getting around it, the fact is, they got stops on at least four straight UND possessions with a 3-point lead! That should be GOOD enough to put the game away no matter how many yards Hansen threw for. Five cracks at a game-put-away score and NOTHING. To me, that's EVERY bit as bad as what the defense did today.

AND, IMO coaching/play calling and execution were equally to blame, not one more than the other. The dreaded zone-read pitch to the short side on third down reared its ugly head, as it did in Pflu and Bobby's offenses. It's like the Griz won't let that play go no matter who the damn coach is and what his offensive beliefs are! Good god I despise that play, unless Oregon is running it. But equally as bad was Henderson's drop on one third down, and Shay's terrible overthrow on the third down after UND kicked the FG. Point is, playcalling by coaches AND execution came up way short when the Griz needed it the most.

 

[Walkon79]

Any chance of getting that Carroll College coach who won 6 national titles to come over to MSLA? We could sure use some good coaching.

The one who just about walked out on his team right before the season started b/c he didn't have the passion to keep coaching? No thanks.

The guy that can only recruit NAIA talent?

 

[Grizzaholic]

Quit living in the past, Hauck got rolled AGAIN today and so did Delaney

I would pick Delaney over Hauck any day of the week.

Hauck's (1-7) UNLV Rebels did beat the Vegas spread of 27.5 spread against Boise State by only losing by 25. Very few had any expectation of Hauck leading that team to a victory in that lopsided mismatch so they didn't exactly get "rolled" by the Vegas statisticians' prediction.

 

[BigPawzSharpClawz]

But equally as bad was Henderson's drop on one third down, and Shay's terrible overthrow on the third down after UND kicked the FG. Point is, playcalling by coaches AND execution came up way short when the Griz needed it the most.

When all things are equal on the field COACHING is the determining factor. Calling out our individual players doesnt help. I would hope that our games dont come down to these specific factors as being the cause.

SSH played very well in this game and showed that there ARE alternatives to our QB performance issues. Henderson'e performance was the best we have had from a WR all year. The alledged "drop" pass was actually a hell of a defensive play. The DB got a big enough piece of him to cause him to not pull it all the way in. If he does, its ball game.

I was more disappointed we waited so long to go back to him after he showed there was no one in the building that could guard him earlier in the 3rd quarter! Hyphen actually showed he was the more accurate passing QB. I assume we now have a wide open QB position again and it should include all three of them.

However, I do agree that our defensive backs & the scheme execution is a whole other story - yikes!
Like most of Griz Nation I still see a ton of promise from these guys. They were sit up to fail this year (Engstrom). The recovery and rise back to the top will be that much more sweet.

Go Griz

 

[sudavis]

Could it have been worse? Looked like one pass into the end zone the receiver from UND did have one foot in. May have been in the third quarter-not sure.

 

[argh!]

Any chance of getting that Carroll College coach who won 6 national titles to come over to MSLA? We could sure use some good coaching.

The one who just about walked out on his team right before the season started b/c he didn't have the passion to keep coaching? No thanks.

you mean you don't want delaney as coach? oh wait, he walked out in early spring...

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

There is a difference between being a good coach and a good coordinator. TG is a good guy to have on your staff as a position coach, but he struggles coordinating a defense.

 

[PlayerRep]

There is a difference between being a good coach and a good coordinator. TG is a good guy to have on your staff as a position coach, but he struggles coordinating a defense.

Do you have any particular basis for making that statement? Do you have any specifics to back up your statement?

 

[Griz-O-Matic]

There is a difference between being a good coach and a good coordinator. TG is a good guy to have on your staff as a position coach, but he struggles coordinating a defense.

Do you have any particular basis for making that statement? Do you have any specifics to back up your statement?

660 specific reasons.....

 

[spsyk]

There is a difference between being a good coach and a good coordinator. TG is a good guy to have on your staff as a position coach, but he struggles coordinating a defense.

Do you have any particular basis for making that statement? Do you have any specifics to back up your statement?

Well, I have a high regard for Ty, a real diamond in the ruff, however if you need specifics, how about 660 yards, of passing offense resulting in a loss, "Don't you know anything about football"

 

[mtgrizrule]

There is a difference between being a good coach and a good coordinator. TG is a good guy to have on your staff as a position coach, but he struggles coordinating a defense.

Do you have any particular basis for making that statement? Do you have any specifics to back up your statement?

660 specific reasons.....

The results of Ty's coordinating a pathetic pass defense. At this stage of a season, there is no excuse for the pass defense to not have improved. Are their other issues too? There sure is, but the lack of a pass defense, due to very bad strategy, lack of adjustments, and lack of personnel adjustments, are the main reasons why the GRIZ are where they are at this year. I think the results speak for themselves.

I can only speak for myself, it would be easier to have empathy for Ty, if we were seeing adjustments with personnel and strategy, but there is not any!!!!! It is the same thing every week. Show us some shake ups and experimenting to figure this out, and maybe the criticism will die down some. Right now, in my opinion, TG naysayers certainly have legitimate reasons to be hard on him. He has earned the criticism, every bit as much as he earned the praise to get the DC position. It works both ways.

 

[ranco]

IMO UND wanted to win this game. I never saw that passion from Montana. We have actually looked worse from week to week and that has to say something . I love to watch John Paul but even he seems less than encouraged. Hard to say but the spark hasn't been there and the killer instinct seems to have been sucked out of this team. The reality Might be the kids have lost confidence in delaney. He has made a lot of blunders that cost us.

Valid points


Ultimately this game is over and its history but make no mistake Delaney coaching this team today is WAY better than any game Hauck coached

You're right, Hauck was horrible and I'm glad he's gone because it has (and will) save me a ton of money - no playoff games to buy tickets for and no NC games to travel to. Yup, having Bobby gone has been a real treat for my pocket book. I hope Delaney signs a 10 year contract.

 

['68griz]

 

[PlayerRep]

There is a difference between being a good coach and a good coordinator. TG is a good guy to have on your staff as a position coach, but he struggles coordinating a defense.

Do you have any particular basis for making that statement? Do you have any specifics to back up your statement?

660 specific reasons.....

The results of Ty's coordinating a pathetic pass defense. At this stage of a season, there is no excuse for the pass defense to not have improved. Are their other issues too? There sure is, but the lack of a pass defense, due to very bad strategy, lack of adjustments, and lack of personnel adjustments, are the main reasons why the GRIZ are where they are at this year. I think the results speak for themselves.

I can only speak for myself, it would be easier to have empathy for Ty, if we were seeing adjustments with personnel and strategy, but there is not any!!!!! It is the same thing every week. Show us some shake ups and experimenting to figure this out, and maybe the criticism will die down some. Right now, in my opinion, TG naysayers certainly have legitimate reasons to be hard on him. He has earned the criticism, every bit as much as he earned the praise to get the DC position. It works both ways.

You are welcome to your opinion, but me thinks you don't know what you're talking about on this subject. You don't attend the games in person. You can't see the pass defense on tv, only the results. You don't talk to the coaches.

 

[PlayerRep]

There is a difference between being a good coach and a good coordinator. TG is a good guy to have on your staff as a position coach, but he struggles coordinating a defense.

Do you have any particular basis for making that statement? Do you have any specifics to back up your statement?

Well, I have a high regard for Ty, a real diamond in the ruff, however if you need specifics, how about 660 yards, of passing offense resulting in a loss, "Don't you know anything about football"

As a matter of fact, I know alot about pass defense and secondary play. And certainly enough to know that your comment is meaningless. 660 is, of course, way too much yardage to give up, but it doesn't mean its the fault of the DC.