Post Game: Sound the alarm

[AZGrizFan]

Because at this point any one of us could QB for the opposing team and complete 10-12 yard passes in the middle of the field in front of our AWFUL pass coverage safeties. The pass overage from our safeties is laughable at this point. They are a huge liability. Our very seasoned staff may want to find safeties who can cover a guy or at least be within 2 yards of them. Ours are constantly 5-8 yards away.

Who got beaten on the 2 long passes? One was in the corner at goal line. One had a corner in coverage. Those TD's were 24 and 40 yards. The long was the day was 43. All 3 were Hatten. The 5'7" receiver had a long of 27. I recall the 2 TD's, but didn't see what went wrong with the one where we had no defender. I don't recall the 43 and 27 yarders. So, don't know where the balls were caught and who was in coverage. Without commenting on the coverage skills of the safeties, I don't recall seeing big coverage mistakes by the safeties.

I don’t know which was which, but the play where both safeties bit on the WR screen and the blocker ran free with no one near him was embarrassing. The badly underthrown ball made it a much closer play than it really was.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Because at this point any one of us could QB for the opposing team and complete 10-12 yard passes in the middle of the field in front of our AWFUL pass coverage safeties. The pass overage from our safeties is laughable at this point. They are a huge liability. Our very seasoned staff may want to find safeties who can cover a guy or at least be within 2 yards of them. Ours are constantly 5-8 yards away.

Who got beaten on the 2 long passes? One was in the corner at goal line. One had a corner in coverage. Those TD's were 24 and 40 yards. The long was the day was 43. All 3 were Hatten. The 5'7" receiver had a long of 27. I recall the 2 TD's, but didn't see what went wrong with the one where we had no defender. I don't recall the 43 and 27 yarders. So, don't know where the balls were caught and who was in coverage. Without commenting on the coverage skills of the safeties, I don't recall seeing big coverage mistakes by the safeties.

Agree with this. Honestly - safeties were not an issue in this game. Corners did get beat a couple of times...including Ford.

 

[Buttegrizzle]

Because at this point any one of us could QB for the opposing team and complete 10-12 yard passes in the middle of the field in front of our AWFUL pass coverage safeties. The pass overage from our safeties is laughable at this point. They are a huge liability. Our very seasoned staff may want to find safeties who can cover a guy or at least be within 2 yards of them. Ours are constantly 5-8 yards away.

Who got beaten on the 2 long passes? One was in the corner at goal line. One had a corner in coverage. Those TD's were 24 and 40 yards. The long was the day was 43. All 3 were Hatten. The 5'7" receiver had a long of 27. I recall the 2 TD's, but didn't see what went wrong with the one where we had no defender. I don't recall the 43 and 27 yarders. So, don't know where the balls were caught and who was in coverage. Without commenting on the coverage skills of the safeties, I don't recall seeing big coverage mistakes by the safeties.

At halftime I said if the Griz didn’t execute a good drive on the second half kickoff we were going be in deep trouble. The reason being that the Defense had already played almost the entire first half. They were really slowed down by the fourth quarter. Credit to the Spud game there. I was impressed by Idaho and think they will make some noise this season.

 

[EverettGriz]

Grizzle, I fully agree. This is not your father's Idaho team. They are well-coached, fast, and they execute what they want to do perfectly.

I also agree with Brint. This was bad, but damn near every GRIZ team who went to the semis or beyond had a game like this during the year.

On to Sac.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Who got beaten on the 2 long passes? One was in the corner at goal line. One had a corner in coverage. Those TD's were 24 and 40 yards. The long was the day was 43. All 3 were Hatten. The 5'7" receiver had a long of 27. I recall the 2 TD's, but didn't see what went wrong with the one where we had no defender. I don't recall the 43 and 27 yarders. So, don't know where the balls were caught and who was in coverage. Without commenting on the coverage skills of the safeties, I don't recall seeing big coverage mistakes by the safeties.

At halftime I said if the Griz didn’t execute a good drive on the second half kickoff we were going be in deep trouble.

And what happened? They fucked up and let Idaho recover the onside kick.

 

[grizare#1]

The ST's are more than onside kick coverage, dropped punt snaps, and bad extra point. I'm, of course, fine with those criticisms.

The UM punter averaged 49 yards. Punt returns and kick returns were very good, setting up good field position. 2-41 on punt returns, and 2-62 on KO returns. Idaho punt returns were 2 for 11 yards. Idaho had zero KO returns. 1-1 on FG. Rohrbach is averaging 44.9 and is 5th in the nation. The Griz are 2d in nation in net punting, at 42.3. UM is 8th in nation in KO return defense.

Bruschini is avging 42.3 and is 41st in nation.

Despite Rohrbach's not handling the snap he chose wisely to once again take the safety than what would have been 7 points in the next couple plays for Idaho as they would have had it probably inside the 5 had he tried to salvage the play.. Historically for Glacier in his four years as the starter he had very good hands so not too worried he will correct that. That onside kick he tried was text book except like the rest of the day the ball just did not bounce our way.
Love this team and what they can accomplish yet this season, its still all out there for them to go get and earn, I don't see anyone running the table this year especially with who has to play who in the next two weeks. Go to Sac and get the win and get on a roll.
GO GRIZ

 

[AZGrizFan]

The ST's are more than onside kick coverage, dropped punt snaps, and bad extra point. I'm, of course, fine with those criticisms.

The UM punter averaged 49 yards. Punt returns and kick returns were very good, setting up good field position. 2-41 on punt returns, and 2-62 on KO returns. Idaho punt returns were 2 for 11 yards. Idaho had zero KO returns. 1-1 on FG. Rohrbach is averaging 44.9 and is 5th in the nation. The Griz are 2d in nation in net punting, at 42.3. UM is 8th in nation in KO return defense.

Bruschini is avging 42.3 and is 41st in nation.

Despite Rohrbach's not handling the snap he chose wisely to once again take the safety than what would have been 7 points in the next couple plays for Idaho as they would have had it probably inside the 5 had he tried to salvage the play.. Historically for Glacier in his four years as the starter he had very good hands so not too worried he will correct that. That onside kick he tried was text book except like the rest of the day the ball just did not bounce our way.
Love this team and what they can accomplish yet this season, its still all out there for them to go get and earn, I don't see anyone running the table this year especially with who has to play who in the next two weeks. Go to Sac and get the win and get on a roll.
GO GRIZ

that's the weird thing: the ball DID bounce our way on the onside kick, and we STILL didn't recover it...we got the perfect 2nd, high bounce but THEIR guy went up and high pointed it and our guy didn't try.

 

[uofmman1122]

Grizzle, I fully agree. This is not your father's Idaho team. They are well-coached, fast, and they execute what they want to do perfectly.

I also agree with Brint. This was bad, but damn near every GRIZ team who went to the semis or beyond had a game like this during the year.

On to Sac.

That's true, but those Griz teams also only ever had at most one or two other Big Sky teams in the top 25, not three (should be four) in the top 15 and ranked ahead of them.

The sad reality is that we could right the ship and fix a lot of our problems and still lose the next two games.

I am hopeful the team that looked like it was an easy top 5 makes a return and we spank them, though.

 

[HookedonGriz]

Because at this point any one of us could QB for the opposing team and complete 10-12 yard passes in the middle of the field in front of our AWFUL pass coverage safeties. The pass overage from our safeties is laughable at this point. They are a huge liability. Our very seasoned staff may want to find safeties who can cover a guy or at least be within 2 yards of them. Ours are constantly 5-8 yards away.

Who got beaten on the 2 long passes? One was in the corner at goal line. One had a corner in coverage. Those TD's were 24 and 40 yards. The long was the day was 43. All 3 were Hatten. The 5'7" receiver had a long of 27. I recall the 2 TD's, but didn't see what went wrong with the one where we had no defender. I don't recall the 43 and 27 yarders. So, don't know where the balls were caught and who was in coverage. Without commenting on the coverage skills of the safeties, I don't recall seeing big coverage mistakes by the safeties.

On the ball where the Idaho QB was getting hit and already wrapped up and basically threw up what seemed like a Hail Mary, both Robby and Fouch bit really hard toward the line of scrimmage even though the QB was already getting wrapped up and they had no business biting that hard. They both left that receiver completely open to make a catch that was completely unchallenged and waltz into the end zone. This is becoming quite the trend with the safeties. They are some of the best run stopping safeties in the league and possibly in all of FCS but it makes them absolutely miserable at pass coverage.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

The ST's are more than onside kick coverage, dropped punt snaps, and bad extra point. I'm, of course, fine with those criticisms.

The UM punter averaged 49 yards. Punt returns and kick returns were very good, setting up good field position. 2-41 on punt returns, and 2-62 on KO returns. Idaho punt returns were 2 for 11 yards. Idaho had zero KO returns. 1-1 on FG. Rohrbach is averaging 44.9 and is 5th in the nation. The Griz are 2d in nation in net punting, at 42.3. UM is 8th in nation in KO return defense.

Bruschini is averaging 42.3 and is 41st in nation.

So you found a couple pieces of bubble gum still in wrappers in the septic tank. Good for you.

 

[SaskGriz]

Who got beaten on the 2 long passes? One was in the corner at goal line. One had a corner in coverage. Those TD's were 24 and 40 yards. The long was the day was 43. All 3 were Hatten. The 5'7" receiver had a long of 27. I recall the 2 TD's, but didn't see what went wrong with the one where we had no defender. I don't recall the 43 and 27 yarders. So, don't know where the balls were caught and who was in coverage. Without commenting on the coverage skills of the safeties, I don't recall seeing big coverage mistakes by the safeties.

On the ball where the Idaho QB was getting hit and already wrapped up and basically threw up what seemed like a Hail Mary, both Robby and Fouch bit really hard toward the line of scrimmage even though the QB was already getting wrapped up and they had no business biting that hard. They both left that receiver completely open to make a catch that was completely unchallenged and waltz into the end zone. This is becoming quite the trend with the safeties. They are some of the best run stopping safeties in the league and possibly in all of FCS but it makes them absolutely miserable at pass coverage.

If you go back to the Portland State game the same thing happened on that ridiculous hail mary conversion in the second quarter. The WR who was passing was in the process of getting hit, our safety bit toward the line of scrimmage even though they were way too far away to effect the tackle. Consequently when that lame duck went up Walker had no safety help to the inside and the Vikings receiver was able to cut inside and catch the ball.

 

[hubcap]

Maybe if they weren't so hell bent on entertaining their coach (and daddy) with their hustle and hitting ability they could actually do the other part of their job. Never mind we have perfectly capable LBers usually in position to take care of those runners. Imagine having to be Baer and design defenses that cover your safety because he knows they are going to get beat one on one.

 

[HookedonGriz]

On the ball where the Idaho QB was getting hit and already wrapped up and basically threw up what seemed like a Hail Mary, both Robby and Fouch bit really hard toward the line of scrimmage even though the QB was already getting wrapped up and they had no business biting that hard. They both left that receiver completely open to make a catch that was completely unchallenged and waltz into the end zone. This is becoming quite the trend with the safeties. They are some of the best run stopping safeties in the league and possibly in all of FCS but it makes them absolutely miserable at pass coverage.

If you go back to the Portland State game the same thing happened on that ridiculous hail mary conversion in the second quarter. The WR who was passing was in the process of getting hit, our safety bit toward the line of scrimmage even though they were way too far away to effect the tackle. Consequently when that lame duck went up Walker had no safety help to the inside and the Vikings receiver was able to cut inside and catch the ball.

Yes you are exactly right that was the same exact type of situation. Why are safeties who are 40 yards down the field trying to sprint toward the line of scrimmage when they will have no impact on that play while the ball is getting launched into the sky to the receiver they are not covering.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Who got beaten on the 2 long passes? One was in the corner at goal line. One had a corner in coverage. Those TD's were 24 and 40 yards. The long was the day was 43. All 3 were Hatten. The 5'7" receiver had a long of 27. I recall the 2 TD's, but didn't see what went wrong with the one where we had no defender. I don't recall the 43 and 27 yarders. So, don't know where the balls were caught and who was in coverage. Without commenting on the coverage skills of the safeties, I don't recall seeing big coverage mistakes by the safeties.

On the ball where the Idaho QB was getting hit and already wrapped up and basically threw up what seemed like a Hail Mary, both Robby and Fouch bit really hard toward the line of scrimmage even though the QB was already getting wrapped up and they had no business biting that hard. They both left that receiver completely open to make a catch that was completely unchallenged and waltz into the end zone. This is becoming quite the trend with the safeties. They are some of the best run stopping safeties in the league and possibly in all of FCS but it makes them absolutely miserable at pass coverage.

I had wondered what had happened. Was no. 4 playing safety or the nickel then. Hauck often has run priority in the schemes. When the qb threw, I thought we'd pick it. Then, I looked to see the wide open receiver. Bummer play. Huge mistake. Can't happen. Someone has deep pass responsibility on that play. Even a late reaction would have been fine on that duck.

 

[mthoopsfan]

The ST's are more than onside kick coverage, dropped punt snaps, and bad extra point. I'm, of course, fine with those criticisms.

The UM punter averaged 49 yards. Punt returns and kick returns were very good, setting up good field position. 2-41 on punt returns, and 2-62 on KO returns. Idaho punt returns were 2 for 11 yards. Idaho had zero KO returns. 1-1 on FG. Rohrbach is averaging 44.9 and is 5th in the nation. The Griz are 2d in nation in net punting, at 42.3. UM is 8th in nation in KO return defense.

Bruschini is averaging 42.3 and is 41st in nation.

So you found a couple pieces of bubble gum still in wrappers in the septic tank. Good for you.

No, I'm giving a balanced view of ST's play.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Maybe if they weren't so hell bent on entertaining their coach (and daddy) with their hustle and hitting ability they could actually do the other part of their job. Never mind we have perfectly capable LBers usually in position to take care of those runners. Imagine having to be Baer and design defenses that cover your safety because he knows they are going to get beat one on one.

You sure have a Haucked shaped stick in your ass

 

[retiredfan]

My My My the Griz layed an egg! I hope they get rid of the hen and get the rooster so they can peck the heck out of the rest of the teams they have on tap. Not the end of the world just the start of a win streak starting with Suc State. 1 loss doesn’t ruin season, Go Griz!!

 

[SaskGriz]

On the ball where the Idaho QB was getting hit and already wrapped up and basically threw up what seemed like a Hail Mary, both Robby and Fouch bit really hard toward the line of scrimmage even though the QB was already getting wrapped up and they had no business biting that hard. They both left that receiver completely open to make a catch that was completely unchallenged and waltz into the end zone. This is becoming quite the trend with the safeties. They are some of the best run stopping safeties in the league and possibly in all of FCS but it makes them absolutely miserable at pass coverage.

I had wondered what had happened. Was no. 4 playing safety or the nickel then. Hauck often has run priority in the schemes. When the qb threw, I thought we'd pick it. Then, I looked to see the wide open receiver. Bummer play. Huge mistake. Can't happen. Someone has deep pass responsibility on that play. Even a late reaction would have been fine on that duck.

Hard to say for sure, it looked like we were man to man but with zone help over the middle. Fouch was lined up on the boundary slot but a little deeper than Cotton who was right up on the play side slot. Fouch reacts to the stop/go move as if he thinks he's in zone and has safety help behind him. The receiver goes right by him and is parallel with Hauck before both DB's realise what is happening and by then it's too late.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Who got beaten on the 2 long passes? One was in the corner at goal line. One had a corner in coverage. Those TD's were 24 and 40 yards. The long was the day was 43. All 3 were Hatten. The 5'7" receiver had a long of 27. I recall the 2 TD's, but didn't see what went wrong with the one where we had no defender. I don't recall the 43 and 27 yarders. So, don't know where the balls were caught and who was in coverage. Without commenting on the coverage skills of the safeties, I don't recall seeing big coverage mistakes by the safeties.

I don’t know which was which, but the play where both safeties bit on the WR screen and the blocker ran free with no one near him was embarrassing. The badly underthrown ball made it a much closer play than it really was.

Just re-watched. Seems that one was on Fouch. He bit hard...and could not recover. Robby was also late to recover...then ran into Fouch. It was ugly.

 

[Mavman]

Griz did not play well and coaches made a mistake on not calling for a review on 4th down. The long td where the qb was being hit was crazy, did not look like he would get the ball even close to receiver. The onside kick to start second half was a huge kick to the nads.
Idaho played perfectly and got a few breaks and Montana was still in the game late. I will be in Sacramento and think Griz get a win, not giving up on these boys!