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Post Game: Embarassing

BWahlberg said:
The 17 point favorites Montana Grizzlies hit the road this weekend and absolutely fell flat. They were shell shocked right away. The defense was baffled most of the game by a true freshman NAU QB and a running game that shoved the front line around. The offense looked… well… as we’ve seen. Inefficient, full of errors, and unable to execute. The running game was totally shut down and QB play wasn’t at a level that was needed to win a road game against a (previously) winless team.

The margin for error with this season and this team was slim already and now Montana has put themselves even further behind. With games against Davis, Sac, Idaho, Portland, and MSU looming – right now I see 0 wins in that slate. There’s time to correct and save this but now Montana needs to make ground against teams that are looking/playing/coaching better than they are right now.

I’m really frustrated. This was such a disappointing loss. In a week where many heavyweight teams were duking it out Montana was SUPPOSED to have a good road test but a game they should have walked away with a win. Now with this loss they’ll tumble almost all the way out of the top 25, already find themselves behind in conference standings, and have so many unanswered questions that I don’t know have a quick solution.

My observations:

- The Grizzly offensive line was dominated today. The veteran group that needed to play its best, simply didn’t. They were shoved back all day. The QB was under pressure up the middle and on the edges. The most veteran group on this offense that HAS to preform every week simply didn’t. Near end of the 1st half the OL gets blown off the ball and on a needed 3rd and 1 – Harris loses 4. Then with 6 minutes to go in the game with a shred of hope left, needing a short game, again there’s no running lanes and it’s a turnover on downs. Where does this group go from here? Can it be fixed?

- 6 years / 5 seasons and Montana just doesn’t have that solution at QB. Dalton Sneed (when healthy) was great. Beyond that it just seems the Griz have been so lost at that position. I don’t blame Vidlak or McDowell for this poor performance on offense, Vidlak flashes great potential but probably isn’t fully ready for the job. McDowell is best in the zone read (from what I’ve seen) but when the run game isn’t there… what do you do? This was a situation that we’ve been in for a few years now. How does this get fixed? NAU rolled out a freshman QB that outperformed today. How does a school like NAU do that over us? It SHOULDN’T happen. Vidlak needs to play with more urgency in the pocket.

- The pass defense had too many big shots given up and were fooled to often once again. This has happened every single week. It’s on film, in 4 weeks there’s been continual deep shots down field that have been allowed. I’m no expert, I have no idea how this can be fixed, is it possible? What can be changed to limit this?

- Trevin Gradney secures his 4th pick in 4 games, how awesome. Then… when needed, later in the game, he’s on the sideline at times. Did he get hurt? Are we just sticking with a plan for rotation? If he’s one of your leaders and studs on defense, in a game where you’re having issues with a pass offense, why is he off the field when needed?

- Credit NAU (I think) for taking Junior Bergen out of this game. This guy needs double digit touches… and I don’t think got them today.

- Montana’s special teams once again forced errors and swung points in the favor of their opponent. A blocked punt sets up a short field TD, then a missed PAT.

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I don’t think I’m being too dramatic to say this is one of the worst losses under either of Hauck’s tenures. I can think of some others, 2003 NDSU, 2008 Weber, 2018 MSU. But man… this one just feels like there’s an absolute mountain of poop coming our way the rest of this season. I’m not feeling positive at all and you guys know I try to find the silver lining here.

That said… 2008 Weber State was just about as ugly and gross of loss. That team found it’s identity from that loss and went on a run. I’m going to need more convincing to think this Montana team has that type of rebound in them, but who knows.

This post is a big vent, this team needs to dig deep and find it’s real identity, is this a .500 squad or can they rally from this sh*t sandwich of a game and find a winning streak? The margin for error is even thinner and Montana now has to rebound fast. While I’m upset, disappointed, and frustrated – I’m not giving up on these guys. You’ll find me at Wa Griz this weekend, I’m not pulling any support, and I want these guys to all succeed. Where do we go from here? Fans, I know we’re all upset – let it out, lets blast this crap game into the sun and get back after it.

go griz
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I was at the game. This team MIGHT beat ISU at home. The rest of the season is toast. MSU beat Weber 40-0. Weber is WAY better than the shi...t show on the the field at NAU.
 
How I see the rest of the season:

ISU - Win
UCD - Loss
Idaho - Loss
NCU - Win
Sac - Loss
Portland St - Loss
MSU - Loss by 50.
 
Yukon said:
How I see the rest of the season:

ISU - Win
UCD - Loss
Idaho - Loss
NCU - Win
Sac - Loss
Portland St - Loss
MSU - Loss by 50.
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If that team that showed up at NAU is indicative of the rest of the season, many of these will be blowouts. Idaho and Sac will be ugly. Really ugly.
 
EZGRIZ23 said:
BWahlberg said:
The 17 point favorites Montana Grizzlies hit the road this weekend and absolutely fell flat. They were shell shocked right away. The defense was baffled most of the game by a true freshman NAU QB and a running game that shoved the front line around. The offense looked… well… as we’ve seen. Inefficient, full of errors, and unable to execute. The running game was totally shut down and QB play wasn’t at a level that was needed to win a road game against a (previously) winless team.

The margin for error with this season and this team was slim already and now Montana has put themselves even further behind. With games against Davis, Sac, Idaho, Portland, and MSU looming – right now I see 0 wins in that slate. There’s time to correct and save this but now Montana needs to make ground against teams that are looking/playing/coaching better than they are right now.

I’m really frustrated. This was such a disappointing loss. In a week where many heavyweight teams were duking it out Montana was SUPPOSED to have a good road test but a game they should have walked away with a win. Now with this loss they’ll tumble almost all the way out of the top 25, already find themselves behind in conference standings, and have so many unanswered questions that I don’t know have a quick solution.

My observations:

- The Grizzly offensive line was dominated today. The veteran group that needed to play its best, simply didn’t. They were shoved back all day. The QB was under pressure up the middle and on the edges. The most veteran group on this offense that HAS to preform every week simply didn’t. Near end of the 1st half the OL gets blown off the ball and on a needed 3rd and 1 – Harris loses 4. Then with 6 minutes to go in the game with a shred of hope left, needing a short game, again there’s no running lanes and it’s a turnover on downs. Where does this group go from here? Can it be fixed?

- 6 years / 5 seasons and Montana just doesn’t have that solution at QB. Dalton Sneed (when healthy) was great. Beyond that it just seems the Griz have been so lost at that position. I don’t blame Vidlak or McDowell for this poor performance on offense, Vidlak flashes great potential but probably isn’t fully ready for the job. McDowell is best in the zone read (from what I’ve seen) but when the run game isn’t there… what do you do? This was a situation that we’ve been in for a few years now. How does this get fixed? NAU rolled out a freshman QB that outperformed today. How does a school like NAU do that over us? It SHOULDN’T happen. Vidlak needs to play with more urgency in the pocket.

- The pass defense had too many big shots given up and were fooled to often once again. This has happened every single week. It’s on film, in 4 weeks there’s been continual deep shots down field that have been allowed. I’m no expert, I have no idea how this can be fixed, is it possible? What can be changed to limit this?

- Trevin Gradney secures his 4th pick in 4 games, how awesome. Then… when needed, later in the game, he’s on the sideline at times. Did he get hurt? Are we just sticking with a plan for rotation? If he’s one of your leaders and studs on defense, in a game where you’re having issues with a pass offense, why is he off the field when needed?

- Credit NAU (I think) for taking Junior Bergen out of this game. This guy needs double digit touches… and I don’t think got them today.

- Montana’s special teams once again forced errors and swung points in the favor of their opponent. A blocked punt sets up a short field TD, then a missed PAT.

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I don’t think I’m being too dramatic to say this is one of the worst losses under either of Hauck’s tenures. I can think of some others, 2003 NDSU, 2008 Weber, 2018 MSU. But man… this one just feels like there’s an absolute mountain of poop coming our way the rest of this season. I’m not feeling positive at all and you guys know I try to find the silver lining here.

That said… 2008 Weber State was just about as ugly and gross of loss. That team found it’s identity from that loss and went on a run. I’m going to need more convincing to think this Montana team has that type of rebound in them, but who knows.

This post is a big vent, this team needs to dig deep and find it’s real identity, is this a .500 squad or can they rally from this sh*t sandwich of a game and find a winning streak? The margin for error is even thinner and Montana now has to rebound fast. While I’m upset, disappointed, and frustrated – I’m not giving up on these guys. You’ll find me at Wa Griz this weekend, I’m not pulling any support, and I want these guys to all succeed. Where do we go from here? Fans, I know we’re all upset – let it out, lets blast this crap game into the sun and get back after it.

go griz
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I was at the game. This team MIGHT beat ISU at home. The rest of the season is toast. MSU beat Weber 40-0. Weber is WAY better than the shi...t show on the the field at NAU.
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I was also there. I am no longer going to pretend that I have no football knowledge, played the game, coached, been around coaches, or know people. I have read a bunch on here today and agree with nearly everything on here. My takes are:

1. When my wife can scream this..."hey, in that formation they're going to throw to 11 in the flat" and then they do...for another 14 yard gain...that's coaching.
2. When the OL is blown backward into Vidlak so badly that he can't get his feet set or is running around under pressure...that's coaching.
3. When it's 4th and 1 and Nick isn't running the ball...that's coaching.
4. When your running QB leads the team down for a TD...and then you don't play him again...that's coaching.

I saw a lot of kids shaking their heads on the sidelines, frustrated. Many weren't in the huddles either. Very poor body language all around.
I also have a story regarding recruiting...very similar to others on here...a friend's cousin wanted to go to UM to play. He did well at camp, and he was also told there was a Montana kid that played his position and they would get back to him. Well, he waited, and signing day (the early one) came and no offer. He had other offers, including Boise State, Nevada, Colorado State, and Tulsa (maybe it Akron, i know it was a city). Anyway, he wanted to go to UM. He lost a couple scholarships along the way waiting, but picked up a couple. He is at a power 5 and plays DL. This was within the last 3 years. I am ALL about getting MT kids, no doubt, but to be nationally competitive, MT is not the answer. Get the best of whomever wants to go to Missoula. Put up a decent product. Kids will want to play there again. It is EXACTLY what the Cats are doing. Things are different now than they were during 1.0. You can't recruit on tradition when that tradition was long ago. That's like saying join Yale's football team because we were dominate in the past.

Germer...needed to go a couple years ago.
Peace, Pease...should've happened last year also. There's a reason the fizzled out before.
Never thought I'd be hoping Rosey took over the offense.
the 3-3-5...needs to go
Every armchair said we need more DT's...and BH said, naw, we good...

I will always support the team, but honestly, I lost some passion this last weekend. I hope he rights the ship, or else, it's time for a completely new overhaul.
 
AZDoc said:
EZGRIZ23 said:
I was at the game. This team MIGHT beat ISU at home. The rest of the season is toast. MSU beat Weber 40-0. Weber is WAY better than the shi...t show on the the field at NAU.
Click to expand...

I was also there. I am no longer going to pretend that I have no football knowledge, played the game, coached, been around coaches, or know people. I have read a bunch on here today and agree with nearly everything on here. My takes are:

1. When my wife can scream this..."hey, in that formation they're going to throw to 11 in the flat" and then they do...for another 14 yard gain...that's coaching.
2. When the OL is blown backward into Vidlak so badly that he can't get his feet set or is running around under pressure...that's coaching.
3. When it's 4th and 1 and Nick isn't running the ball...that's coaching.
4. When your running QB leads the team down for a TD...and then you don't play him again...that's coaching.

I saw a lot of kids shaking their heads on the sidelines, frustrated. Many weren't in the huddles either. Very poor body language all around.
I also have a story regarding recruiting...very similar to others on here...a friend's cousin wanted to go to UM to play. He did well at camp, and he was also told there was a Montana kid that played his position and they would get back to him. Well, he waited, and signing day (the early one) came and no offer. He had other offers, including Boise State, Nevada, Colorado State, and Tulsa (maybe it Akron, i know it was a city). Anyway, he wanted to go to UM. He lost a couple scholarships along the way waiting, but picked up a couple. He is at a power 5 and plays DL. This was within the last 3 years. I am ALL about getting MT kids, no doubt, but to be nationally competitive, MT is not the answer. Get the best of whomever wants to go to Missoula. Put up a decent product. Kids will want to play there again. It is EXACTLY what the Cats are doing. Things are different now than they were during 1.0. You can't recruit on tradition when that tradition was long ago. That's like saying join Yale's football team because we were dominate in the past.

Germer...needed to go a couple years ago.
Peace, Pease...should've happened last year also. There's a reason the fizzled out before.
Never thought I'd be hoping Rosey took over the offense.
the 3-3-5...needs to go
Every armchair said we need more DT's...and BH said, naw, we good...

I will always support the team, but honestly, I lost some passion this last weekend. I hope he rights the ship, or else, it's time for a completely new overhaul.
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Thanks for sharing all this. I had no idea that recruiting was going that way. I would venture to guess that most fans don't know that either. But letting better players go just so you can get Montana kids is beyond ridiculous and it's obvious how that strategy is working.
 
Random thought, but anyone that was at the game also enjoy their entertainment? I loved the spelling contest and trivia contest. Made me laugh and think it's a fantastic idea, or something similar to do in Missoula.
 
AZDoc said:
Random thought, but anyone that was at the game also enjoy their entertainment? I loved the spelling contest and trivia contest. Made me laugh and think it's a fantastic idea, or something similar to do in Missoula.
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Come on we've got Monte entry Kiss Cam Dance Can Flex Cam Country Boy Cotton Eye Joe......AND HAVE...... FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS. Can't we just keep the same exact product for 30 years and continue to be the top of the heap? Bobby thinks it works on the field.

26,000 sheep may turn another direction one of these days.
 
dbackjon said:
YttriumGriz39 said:
That team will be lucky to be .500, glad I didn't get season tickets this year.
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So you only support your team when you think they will be good?
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Well, you only seem to post on eGriz when NAU shows a pulse… :lol:
 
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