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Post Game: Defensive dominance

SaskGriz said:
poorgriz said:
Agree, the Coyotes will put up a bit more resistance than that terrible team you beat up on Saturday..... but I don't think SD is top tier of FCS this year and you should beat them by 20 ish. IMO I think your schedule is pretty much a cake walk until your last five games, which is when everyone will really get to see what you're made of... and honestly there's a chance only 2 or 3 of those teams will be true contenders for making noise in the playoffs.
4 of our last 5 could be tough, depending how improved Poly are. Our last game is will be similar to the game this past weekend.
At best the Bobcats will be 1-9-1 (The EWU game will end in a scoreless tie).

That would be sad. :cry:
 
I generally just sit back and watch the overall game develop, so individual plays don't even register. But, on one occasion, I noted a three man NWSU rush and thought, 'Watch, the OL will fuck it up.' They did. Sack. How the hell do five O-linemen allow a sack by three D-linemen?
 
3-7-77 said:
I generally just sit back and watch the overall game develop, so individual plays don't even register. But, on one occasion, I noted a three man NWSU rush and thought, 'Watch, the OL will [#]f### it up.' They did. Sack. How the hell do five O-linemen allow a sack by three D-linemen?
They made a decent pocket for Johnson on that play and instead of stepping up, he ran outside trying to evade a defender and couldn't.

TBF, though, I spent a good amount of time watching the OL on the game replay and I'd probably give them a collective C+ grade. They seemed to get blown back on run plays more than I'd prefer to see, and whenever we went zone, there always seemed to be one guy blocking no one in particular.
 
uofmman1122 said:
3-7-77 said:
I generally just sit back and watch the overall game develop, so individual plays don't even register. But, on one occasion, I noted a three man NWSU rush and thought, 'Watch, the OL will [#]f### it up.' They did. Sack. How the hell do five O-linemen allow a sack by three D-linemen?
They made a decent pocket for Johnson on that play and instead of stepping up, he ran outside trying to evade a defender and couldn't.

TBF, though, I spent a good amount of time watching the OL on the game replay and I'd probably give them a collective C+ grade. They seemed to get blown back on run plays more than I'd prefer to see, and whenever we went zone, there always seemed to be one guy blocking no one in particular.

I agree that Johnson made a mistake in trying to go outside when the d-end was rushing outside, on that sack. A Griz parent newest to me and I said that immediately.

The coaches graded the o-line very well, on both sides of the ball. Not perfect, but very good. The o-line is one of Bobby's favorite groups, and has been since the spring. Walker played very well, according to the coaches. The o-line needs to clean up some stuff and keep improving. Walker told me that he connected to the Griz via coaches, and not through his former teammates. He said he was comfortable playing o-line in the game.
 
poorgriz said:
SoldierGriz said:
Griz beat SD by 3+ scores.

Agree, the Coyotes will put up a bit more resistance than that terrible team you beat up on Saturday..... but I don't think SD is top tier of FCS this year and you should beat them by 20 ish. IMO I think your schedule is pretty much a cake walk until your last five games, which is when everyone will really get to see what you're made of... and honestly there's a chance only 2 or 3 of those teams will be true contenders for making noise in the playoffs.
That terrible team we beat up on Saturday beat McNeese @ McNeese last Nov. 20. There's that date again.
 
poorgriz said:
SoldierGriz said:
Griz beat SD by 3+ scores.

Agree, the Coyotes will put up a bit more resistance than that terrible team you beat up on Saturday..... but I don't think SD is top tier of FCS this year and you should beat them by 20 ish. IMO I think your schedule is pretty much a cake walk until your last five games, which is when everyone will really get to see what you're made of... and honestly there's a chance only 2 or 3 of those teams will be true contenders for making noise in the playoffs.

LOL "your schedule is cakewalk except the last 5 games" 5 games is basically half the season bruh. Poooor bobcats
 
hilinegrizfan said:
poorgriz said:
Agree, the Coyotes will put up a bit more resistance than that terrible team you beat up on Saturday..... but I don't think SD is top tier of FCS this year and you should beat them by 20 ish. IMO I think your schedule is pretty much a cake walk until your last five games, which is when everyone will really get to see what you're made of... and honestly there's a chance only 2 or 3 of those teams will be true contenders for making noise in the playoffs.

LOL "your schedule is cakewalk except the last 5 games" 5 games is basically half the season bruh. Poooor bobcats

Like the Bobcats cakewalk to the finals last year.
 
poorgriz said:
SoldierGriz said:
Griz beat SD by 3+ scores.

Agree, the Coyotes will put up a bit more resistance than that terrible team you beat up on Saturday..... but I don't think SD is top tier of FCS this year and you should beat them by 20 ish. IMO I think your schedule is pretty much a cake walk until your last five games, which is when everyone will really get to see what you're made of... and honestly there's a chance only 2 or 3 of those teams will be true contenders for making noise in the playoffs.

I think what you meant to type was, " ... more resistance than that team you made look terrible on Saturday, but is actually at least as good as the team we struggled against. I'm glad we don't NWS on our schedule".
 
mthoopsfan said:
uofmman1122 said:
They made a decent pocket for Johnson on that play and instead of stepping up, he ran outside trying to evade a defender and couldn't.

TBF, though, I spent a good amount of time watching the OL on the game replay and I'd probably give them a collective C+ grade. They seemed to get blown back on run plays more than I'd prefer to see, and whenever we went zone, there always seemed to be one guy blocking no one in particular.

I agree that Johnson made a mistake in trying to go outside when the d-end was rushing outside, on that sack. A Griz parent newest to me and I said that immediately.

The coaches graded the o-line very well, on both sides of the ball. Not perfect, but very good. The o-line is one of Bobby's favorite groups, and has been since the spring. Walker played very well, according to the coaches. The o-line needs to clean up some stuff and keep improving. Walker told me that he connected to the Griz via coaches, and not through his former teammates. He said he was comfortable playing o-line in the game.

No, they did not grade "very well." Guarantee the coaches did not grade the unit as such. They got it done against a very bad team. The C+ grade by poster above is fair. They have a long way to go....but, they certainly were not a train wreck.
 
SoldierGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
I agree that Johnson made a mistake in trying to go outside when the d-end was rushing outside, on that sack. A Griz parent newest to me and I said that immediately.

The coaches graded the o-line very well, on both sides of the ball. Not perfect, but very good. The o-line is one of Bobby's favorite groups, and has been since the spring. Walker played very well, according to the coaches. The o-line needs to clean up some stuff and keep improving. Walker told me that he connected to the Griz via coaches, and not through his former teammates. He said he was comfortable playing o-line in the game.

No, they did not grade "very well." Guarantee the coaches did not grade the unit as such. They got it done against a very bad team. The C+ grade by poster above is fair. They have a long way to go....but, they certainly were not a train wreck.

Yes, the coaches said they graded well. I heard it with my own ears. Why do you say such dumb stuff on egriz, when you have no clue what is going on. I guarantee you are wrong. You are a fountain of incorrect information and analysis.
 
mthoopsfan said:
SoldierGriz said:
No, they did not grade "very well." Guarantee the coaches did not grade the unit as such. They got it done against a very bad team. The C+ grade by poster above is fair. They have a long way to go....but, they certainly were not a train wreck.

Yes, the coaches said they graded well. I heard it with my own ears. Why do you say such dumb stuff on egriz, when you have no clue what is going on. I guarantee you are wrong. You are a fountain of incorrect information and analysis.

No, it is you who spews such nonsense on here that people stopped reading your posts long ago...you haven't been right about a single thing since your freshman year at Dartinyourmouth.
 
SoldierGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
Yes, the coaches said they graded well. I heard it with my own ears. Why do you say such dumb stuff on egriz, when you have no clue what is going on. I guarantee you are wrong. You are a fountain of incorrect information and analysis.

No, it is you who spews such nonsense on here that people stopped reading your posts long ago...you haven't been right about a single thing since your freshman year at Dartinyourmouth.

I am 100% right on this one. Of course, my info is usually very good. Most everyone knows that. I hope no one looks at the crap in your posts.
 
mthoopsfan said:
SoldierGriz said:
No, it is you who spews such nonsense on here that people stopped reading your posts long ago...you haven't been right about a single thing since your freshman year at Dartinyourmouth.

I am 100% right on this one. Of course, my info is usually very good. Most everyone knows that. I hope no one looks at the crap in your posts.

You are 0 percent correct that the O-line graded very well. ZERO. Your info in nonsense as it has been since you started posting here. Every poster here knows they didn't grade "very well."
 
SoldierGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
I am 100% right on this one. Of course, my info is usually very good. Most everyone knows that. I hope no one looks at the crap in your posts.

You are 0 percent correct that the O-line graded very well. ZERO. Your info in nonsense as it has been since you started posting here. Every poster here knows they didn't grade "very well."

I said graded well. Bobby told me that. Call him or the o-line coach and ask. The running game averaged 5 yards per carry, 4.5 for the backs, I believe. That is very good. The o-line gave up one sack, and the QB was half of the problem. You are clueless.
 
mthoopsfan said:
uofmman1122 said:
They made a decent pocket for Johnson on that play and instead of stepping up, he ran outside trying to evade a defender and couldn't.

TBF, though, I spent a good amount of time watching the OL on the game replay and I'd probably give them a collective C+ grade. They seemed to get blown back on run plays more than I'd prefer to see, and whenever we went zone, there always seemed to be one guy blocking no one in particular.

I agree that Johnson made a mistake in trying to go outside when the d-end was rushing outside, on that sack. A Griz parent newest to me and I said that immediately.

The coaches graded the o-line very well, on both sides of the ball. Not perfect, but very good. The o-line is one of Bobby's favorite groups, and has been since the spring. Walker played very well, according to the coaches. The o-line needs to clean up some stuff and keep improving. Walker told me that he connected to the Griz via coaches, and not through his former teammates. He said he was comfortable playing o-line in the game.

You said, "very well." See above. Don't lie.

And, you didn't talk to BH. He walks the other way when he sees you. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
 
SoldierGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
I agree that Johnson made a mistake in trying to go outside when the d-end was rushing outside, on that sack. A Griz parent newest to me and I said that immediately.

The coaches graded the o-line very well, on both sides of the ball. Not perfect, but very good. The o-line is one of Bobby's favorite groups, and has been since the spring. Walker played very well, according to the coaches. The o-line needs to clean up some stuff and keep improving. Walker told me that he connected to the Griz via coaches, and not through his former teammates. He said he was comfortable playing o-line in the game.

You said, "very well." See above. Don't lie.

And, you didn't talk to BH. He walks the other way when he sees you. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

You are right. I did say very well. I know Bobby very well too. We have been friends since he got the first job. My brother in law is better friends with him. Flew him to Missoula for the press conference for announcement of the first stint. My wife and I know the whole family. My wife's dad coached at the same time as Bobby's dad, and were friends.
 
It's like 2 kids fighting about if the one kid actually has an iPhone but, the other don't believe him.


There is no point on continuing to argue. You can say you're best buds with Hauck a 100x and he's not going to believe you and no one really cares. You guys are just arguing to argue
.. give it up and move on.
 
Regarding the OL, based on breaking down the game Sunday, and Hauck's coach speak, I'll give my opinion.

If you mainly judge the 1st quarter, then the grade isn't as good. I think C or C+ is fair for that time. However, 2nd quarter to 10 minutes left in the 4th, they improved as the game progressed. During that time, the backs had some room to run, with decent holes. Johnson had time to go through progressions, which rarely happened last season. Also NSU had a very good sized DL, they very seldom penetrated the LOS after the 1st quarter. Their success was the 1st quarter and the 4th quarter, when we were playing deep into the depth chart. Even during those times, our offense still moved the ball.

I honestly can't grade our OL worse than a B, when the top 7 to 8 were rotating. If not for some early struggles, they could be an A. How can a 4.5 yard rushing average, 2 sacks (1 on a qb mistake), be a C or worse?

If you're grading them in the C range or worse, you're mainly doing so in the 1st quarter and 4th quarter mop up time. Overall, our top 7 or 8 played great, with some room for improvement. Most of the time, they did their job.

Just my opinion.
 
Griz Addict said:
It's like 2 kids fighting about if the one kid actually has an iPhone but, the other don't believe him.


There is no point on continuing to argue. You can say you're best buds with Hauck a 100x and he's not going to believe you and no one really cares. You guys are just arguing to argue
.. give it up and move on.

It's completely hopeless but I earnestly wish you good luck with your efforts.
 
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