Post Game: Crisis averted

[AZGrizFan]

Rewatched the game tonight. Some additional thoughts:

1) Worst game of Beaver’s career at Montana (although they never replayed the 1st PF he got)
2) illegal substitutions (12 men on the field) in game EIGHT??? WTF?
3) O’Connell’s PF was bullshit
4) I’m tired of seeing drives stall inside the 10
5) 3rd & goal at the 5 and they take Akem OUT of the game…WTF?
6) White has to come down with that ball…that was the right call
7) Never seen a Griz team so careless with the football.
8) Justin Ford is a beast. Plain and simple.
9) Zo Brown may be the most excited player on the sidelines who NEVER plays
10) Fontes is the next Flowers
11) Humphrey makes better & quicker decisions than Brown
12) Akem has GOT to catch that ball on the 5. Just has to
13) Walker may have saved the game covering that muffed punt by Fontes in the 3rd
14) halfway through the 3rd, and SUU had ZERO penalty yards. WTF?
15) 5,000 empty seats??? WTF?
16) I hope to God Cole Grossman uses all four years of eligibility.

 

[fanofzoo]

You mean like Knight and Ostmo?

And Janacaro. And Turner. Hell, even the two true freshmen weigh 175.

I don't mean how they weigh together.

 

[Htowngriz]

And Janacaro. And Turner. Hell, even the two true freshmen weigh 175.

I don't mean how they weigh together.

:roll:
Time to move on and find something else to bitch about with this 6-2 team.

 

[hunt-ducks]

I don't mean how they weigh together.

:roll:
Time to move on and find something else to bitch about with this 6-2 team.

Lets see, we could always talk about how far the team will go in the playoffs...... :roll:

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Rewatched the game tonight. Some additional thoughts:


2) illegal substitutions (12 men on the field) in game EIGHT??? WTF?

Jacksonville Jaguars had 12 defenders on the field 2 plays in a row today. Also in defense of the Griz, it was the play after Junior got hurt and the 7th string Freshman running back got the packages wrong.

 

[hunt-ducks]

Rewatched the game tonight. Some additional thoughts:


2) illegal substitutions (12 men on the field) in game EIGHT??? WTF?

Jacksonville Jaguars had 12 defenders on the field 2 plays in a row today. Also in defense of the Griz, it was the play after Junior got hurt and the 7th string Freshman running back got the packages wrong.

Using the Jacksonville Jaguars as your example might not be a good choice

 

[AZGrizFan]

Jacksonville Jaguars had 12 defenders on the field 2 plays in a row today. Also in defense of the Griz, it was the play after Junior got hurt and the 7th string Freshman running back got the packages wrong.

Using the Jacksonville Jaguars as your example might not be a good choice

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[PhxGriz]

Shit happens when you change rosters due to injury/illness.

They make it to the playoffs, they'll be a tough out.

Why would one believe that? I don’t think there’s ANYONE out there afraid to face this offense. The last two teams coming into WaGriz have been the ones with the attitude and the chip on their shoulders, fully expecting to win. I’ve NEVER seen that.

If by some miracle this team, which had SO much potential preseason and early on, even MAKES it to the playoffs, I believe they’re one-and-done. There are no 1-7 SUU’s out there in the playoffs.

I don't know if anyone would believe it, other than me. I'm simply believing that by the time the playoffs come around, if the Griz can make it, they will have all the kinks worked out. I find it hard to believe that a team that has pretty much been practicing together non-stop for the last two years had the wheels fall off and will be unable to fix the issue.

 

[kemajic]

Why would one believe that? I don’t think there’s ANYONE out there afraid to face this offense. The last two teams coming into WaGriz have been the ones with the attitude and the chip on their shoulders, fully expecting to win. I’ve NEVER seen that.

If by some miracle this team, which had SO much potential preseason and early on, even MAKES it to the playoffs, I believe they’re one-and-done. There are no 1-7 SUU’s out there in the playoffs.

I don't know if anyone would believe it, other than me. I'm simply believing that by the time the playoffs come around, if the Griz can make it, they will have all the kinks worked out. I find it hard to believe that a team that has pretty much been practicing together non-stop for the last two years had the wheels fall off and will be unable to fix the issue.

I agree that they will have some of the kinks worked out, but there seem to be a lot of them. And they fix some issues, but there are more than one. An offense that can sustain drives and score is at the top of the list. If that gets fixed, a lot of others fall into place.

The Chicken Littles after a bad win are just amazing.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I don't know if anyone would believe it, other than me. I'm simply believing that by the time the playoffs come around, if the Griz can make it, they will have all the kinks worked out. I find it hard to believe that a team that has pretty much been practicing together non-stop for the last two years had the wheels fall off and will be unable to fix the issue.

I agree that they will have some of the kinks worked out, but there seem to be a lot of them. And they fix some issues, but there are more than one. An offense that can sustain drives and score is at the top of the list. If that gets fixed, a lot of others fall into place.

The Chicken Littles after a bad win are just amazing.

How about three bad wins? Because as you said, there seem to be a lot of issues that do NOT seem to be getting any better, and in fact seem to be getting worse. We've suffered through Dixie State, Idaho and now SUU. Three teams we should be destroying, and instead are surviving. Again, if the team was getting better each week I'd feel different, but they're not. Once is a dot, twice is a line, three times is a trend....this offensive performance is NOT an anomaly. Not at this point....it's so far beyond "working the kinks out" that its comical.

 

[kemajic]

I agree that they will have some of the kinks worked out, but there seem to be a lot of them. And they fix some issues, but there are more than one. An offense that can sustain drives and score is at the top of the list. If that gets fixed, a lot of others fall into place.

The Chicken Littles after a bad win are just amazing.

How about three bad wins? Because as you said, there seem to be a lot of issues that do NOT seem to be getting any better, and in fact seem to be getting worse. We've suffered through Dixie State, Idaho and now SUU. Three teams we should be destroying, and instead are surviving. Again, if the team was getting better each week I'd feel different, but they're not. Once is a dot, twice is a line, three times is a trend....this offensive performance is NOT an anomaly. Not at this point....it's so far beyond "working the kinks out" that its comical.

You must have watched a different Idaho game than me. I did not see us suffering in Moscow and the Dixie game was ugly until we ran off 3 TDs in an 8 minute stretch in the second half. Their only scores were on a fumble 6 and then a garbage TD against the D 2's. Which is the right thing to do in a long season; more important than protecting a big lead.

Yeah the offense is truly suspect, but lets stick to the facts. Our defense and ST have and will keep us in any game and it remains to be seen if we have an offense to finish strong. The jury is still out. We don't have to have a EWU offense to win games.

 

[nzone]

The bottle line is we won all three of those games to go 6-2. Next Saturday we play a team (Northern Colorado) which we are the favorites. If your trend philosophy is correct we should continue our winning ways. I’m throwing last weekend out and not forming my over all opinion of this football team on it. The defense plays well enough to keep us in any game and if we possess the ball on the 4 turnovers we had the story line changes. I mean hiking the ball and hitting the motion guy :lol: while going in. Come on! If people can’t this team as legit than screw em!

Go Griz!

 

[IdaGriz01]

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You must have watched a different Idaho game than me. I did not see us suffering in Moscow and the Dixie game was ugly until we ran off 3 TDs in an 8 minute stretch in the second half. Their only scores were on a fumble 6 and then a garbage TD against the D 2's. Which is the right thing to do in a long season; more important than protecting a big lead.

Yeah the offense is truly suspect, but lets stick to the facts. Our defense and ST have and will keep us in any game and it remains to be seen if we have an offense to finish strong. The jury is still out. We don't have to have a EWU offense to win games.

Most objections are, IMO, due to lack of perspective on the whole FCS universe. Too many fans think other high-ranked teams are somehow exempt from problems and run off easy wins. Well, I got news … they’re not.

Here’s an interesting case. Team V (Visitor) waltzes into the home field of good-but-not-great Team L (Lucky?). V is undefeated and ranked in the top-5. They win most of the statistical battle: 432 total yards to 162 … passing 273 to 131, rushing 159 to 31. First downs, 28 to 11. TOP 37 to 23.

Sounds like a slam dunk, right? Not quite … V won by just 2 points. They needed a 4th quarter touchdown to take the lead, and only sealed the deal with an interception at 1:45 left in the game. Yes, they were -2 in the turnover battle, but only one of those led directly to a score for L.




Who? you may ask. V was James Madison, currently 7-1 and ranked #3. L was New Hampshire, currently 3-5 and not receiving any votes in the STATS poll.

 

[AZGrizFan]

How about three bad wins? Because as you said, there seem to be a lot of issues that do NOT seem to be getting any better, and in fact seem to be getting worse. We've suffered through Dixie State, Idaho and now SUU. Three teams we should be destroying, and instead are surviving. Again, if the team was getting better each week I'd feel different, but they're not. Once is a dot, twice is a line, three times is a trend....this offensive performance is NOT an anomaly. Not at this point....it's so far beyond "working the kinks out" that its comical.

You must have watched a different Idaho game than me. I did not see us suffering in Moscow and the Dixie game was ugly until we ran off 3 TDs in an 8 minute stretch in the second half. Their only scores were on a fumble 6 and then a garbage TD against the D 2's. Which is the right thing to do in a long season; more important than protecting a big lead.

Yeah the offense is truly suspect, but lets stick to the facts. Our defense and ST have and will keep us in any game and it remains to be seen if we have an offense to finish strong. The jury is still out. We don't have to have a EWU offense to win games.

That last sentence is the understatement of the year. Then again:

Against Dixie State (a D-II transitional school, mind you), our first EIGHT drives were FUMBLE, PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, INT, FG, DOWNS, MISSED FG.
Against Idaho (arguably the worst team in the conference besides SUU) we were behind 7-0 (surprise), and our first four drives were basically 3 3&outs and a single TD.
And against SUU, (again, arguably the worst team in the conference) we fell behind 9-0 and our first six offensive possessions were PUNT, FUMBLE, FUMBLE, FG, DOWNS, PUNT.

That is 18 offensive possessions against the three weakest teams on our schedule and we have a grand total of 13 points to show for it. Again, that is more than “kinks” that have to be worked out, IMHO. With even an average offense we bury these three teams.

 

[kemajic]

You must have watched a different Idaho game than me. I did not see us suffering in Moscow and the Dixie game was ugly until we ran off 3 TDs in an 8 minute stretch in the second half. Their only scores were on a fumble 6 and then a garbage TD against the D 2's. Which is the right thing to do in a long season; more important than protecting a big lead.

Yeah the offense is truly suspect, but lets stick to the facts. Our defense and ST have and will keep us in any game and it remains to be seen if we have an offense to finish strong. The jury is still out. We don't have to have a EWU offense to win games.

That last sentence is the understatement of the year. Then again:

Against Dixie State (a D-II transitional school, mind you), our first EIGHT drives were FUMBLE, PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, INT, FG, DOWNS, MISSED FG.
Against Idaho (arguably the worst team in the conference besides SUU) we were behind 7-0 (surprise), and our first four drives were basically 3 3&outs and a single TD.
And against SUU, (again, arguably the worst team in the conference) our first six offensive possessions were PUNT, FUMBLE, FUMBLE, FG, DOWNS, PUNT.

That is 18 offensive possessions against the three weakest teams on our schedule and we have a grand total of 13 points to show for it. Again, that is more than “kinks” that have to be worked out, IMHO. With even an average offense we bury these three teams.

I get it; the way you start is more telling than the final score, only one of which was a contest.

 

[AZGrizFan]

That last sentence is the understatement of the year. Then again:

Against Dixie State (a D-II transitional school, mind you), our first EIGHT drives were FUMBLE, PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, INT, FG, DOWNS, MISSED FG.
Against Idaho (arguably the worst team in the conference besides SUU) we were behind 7-0 (surprise), and our first four drives were basically 3 3&outs and a single TD.
And against SUU, (again, arguably the worst team in the conference) our first six offensive possessions were PUNT, FUMBLE, FUMBLE, FG, DOWNS, PUNT.

That is 18 offensive possessions against the three weakest teams on our schedule and we have a grand total of 13 points to show for it. Again, that is more than “kinks” that have to be worked out, IMHO. With even an average offense we bury these three teams.

I get it; the way you start is more telling than the final score, only one of which was a contest.

And my only point is this: we start that way against playoff teams (or MSU for that matter) and we’ll be down so far we won’t have the offensive capabilities to come back.

 

[goatcreekgriz]

I don’t believe in bad wins, or good losses. I just think you want to be respected when you leave the field. You earn some respect by enduring adversity and finding ways to win.

 

[poorgriz]

The bottle line is we won all three of those games to go 6-2. Next Saturday we play a team (Northern Colorado) which we are the favorites. If your trend philosophy is correct we should continue our winning ways. I’m throwing last weekend out and not forming my over all opinion of this football team on it. The defense plays well enough to keep us in any game and if we possess the ball on the 4 turnovers we had the story line changes. I mean hiking the ball and hitting the motion guy :lol: while going in. Come on! If people can’t this team as legit than screw em!

Go Griz!

Bottle Line? Wow. Maybe this is a Banned vs Band thing.

 

[PhxGriz]

Shit happens when you change rosters due to injury/illness.

They make it to the playoffs, they'll be a tough out.

Why would one believe that? I don’t think there’s ANYONE out there afraid to face this offense. The last two teams coming into WaGriz have been the ones with the attitude and the chip on their shoulders, fully expecting to win. I’ve NEVER seen that.

If by some miracle this team, which had SO much potential preseason and early on, even MAKES it to the playoffs, I believe they’re one-and-done. There are no 1-7 SUU’s out there in the playoffs.

After today. "And?" :lol:

 

[AZGrizFan]

Why would one believe that? I don’t think there’s ANYONE out there afraid to face this offense. The last two teams coming into WaGriz have been the ones with the attitude and the chip on their shoulders, fully expecting to win. I’ve NEVER seen that.

If by some miracle this team, which had SO much potential preseason and early on, even MAKES it to the playoffs, I believe they’re one-and-done. There are no 1-7 SUU’s out there in the playoffs.

After today. "And?" :lol:

That wasn’t the same offense. This one had Cam, Harris & Childs. Plus Akem showed up today.