Post Game: An inconsistent win

[Havre66]

R. Meyer from little ole' Fairfield has been buried on the chart for too many seasons because Hauck would never let his son leave the field. It is his time to shine and he did so on Saturday.

 

[uofmman1122]

R. Meyer from little ole' Fairfield has been buried on the chart for too many seasons because Hauck would never let his son leave the field. It is his time to shine and he did so on Saturday.

:lol:

Meyer played well yesterday, but also looked like a considerable downgrade at times from what we had last year with Robby on the field.

 

[mtgrizrule]

R. Meyer from little ole' Fairfield has been buried on the chart for too many seasons because Hauck would never let his son leave the field. It is his time to shine and he did so on Saturday.

:lol:

Meyer played well yesterday, but also looked like a considerable downgrade at times from what we had last year with Robby on the field.

Considering Robby was an all american, that's to be expected.
Honestly, I didn't see Meyer make mistakes and his results were impressive in game 1.
Please explain what you noticed beyond inexperience to feel this way about Meyer?
I either missed things, or your being overly harsh on Meyer.

To me, the defense as a whole just needs to get in sync with one another, and gradually open up the schemes and playcalling. Overall, this isn't a very game experienced defense.

 

[uofmman1122]

:lol:

Meyer played well yesterday, but also looked like a considerable downgrade at times from what we had last year with Robby on the field.

Considering Robby was an all american, that's to be expected.
Honestly, I didn't see Meyer make mistakes and his results were impressive in game 1.
Please explain what you noticed beyond inexperience to feel this way about Meyer?
I either missed things, or your being overly harsh on Meyer.

To me, the defense as a whole just needs to get in sync with one another, and gradually open up the schemes and playcalling. Overall, this isn't a very game experienced defense.

I'm not being overly harsh. Havre is suggesting Meyer should've started over Robby for the last several years, and from not filling the lane as well as Robby used to and giving up a passing TD, just as you suggested he wasn't as good as our all-american safety last year. You can call it inexperience, and that's probably what it was, but I didn't see a guy that looked better than Robby yesterday.

I do see yet another Griz fan that has a hard on for hating on #17, though.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Considering Robby was an all american, that's to be expected.
Honestly, I didn't see Meyer make mistakes and his results were impressive in game 1.
Please explain what you noticed beyond inexperience to feel this way about Meyer?
I either missed things, or your being overly harsh on Meyer.

To me, the defense as a whole just needs to get in sync with one another, and gradually open up the schemes and playcalling. Overall, this isn't a very game experienced defense.

I'm not being overly harsh. Havre is suggesting Meyer should've started over Robby for the last several years, and from not filling the lane as well as Robby used to and giving up a passing TD, just as you suggested he wasn't as good as our all-american safety last year. You can call it inexperience, and that's probably what it was, but I didn't see a guy that looked better than Robby yesterday.

I do see yet another Griz fan that has a hard on for hating on #17, though.

Thanks for clarification. I now understand your point better. Your response was much better worded than your initial post. I do think, Robby should have been substituted in obvious passing situations, regardless of who that substitute was. Robby had a few too many costly pass coverage break downs in his career. So, I see that observation as legit.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I'm not being overly harsh. Havre is suggesting Meyer should've started over Robby for the last several years, and from not filling the lane as well as Robby used to and giving up a passing TD, just as you suggested he wasn't as good as our all-american safety last year. You can call it inexperience, and that's probably what it was, but I didn't see a guy that looked better than Robby yesterday.

I do see yet another Griz fan that has a hard on for hating on #17, though.

Thanks for clarification. I now understand your point better. Your response was much better worded than your initial post. I do think, Robby should have been substituted in obvious passing situations, regardless of who that substitute was. Robby had a few too many costly pass coverage break downs in his career. So, I see that observation as legit.

I don't agree that Robby has a lot of costly pass break downs. Much of the time when egriz blamed him, it wasn't his responsibility. My info comes from sources on the team. His primary job was the run.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Cotton is going to be all conference.

 

[Lord Vigo]

Week 1 provides probably the least telling games of the entire season. So I'm not anywhere close to shoveling dirt on the Grizzlies. By late November, all that will be said about this game is that UM won by 15.

That said, I'm pretty surprised how many Griz fans are on here gassing up the Butler Bulldogs and even trying to hype non-scholarship programs in general. It's not everyone, to be sure. But it's a pretty sad look.

 

[Ihatelife]

Thanks for clarification. I now understand your point better. Your response was much better worded than your initial post. I do think, Robby should have been substituted in obvious passing situations, regardless of who that substitute was. Robby had a few too many costly pass coverage break downs in his career. So, I see that observation as legit.

I don't agree that Robby has a lot of costly pass break downs. Much of the time when egriz blamed him, it wasn't his responsibility. My info comes from sources on the team. His primary job was the run.

Apparently, you don’t use your eyes as a source.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I don't agree that Robby has a lot of costly pass break downs. Much of the time when egriz blamed him, it wasn't his responsibility. My info comes from sources on the team. His primary job was the run.

Apparently, you don’t use your eyes as a source.

Knowing what the defense is, and whose coverage responsibility it was (from coaches and players), is far more important than a fan using his eyes. What a stupid comment you just made. Obviously, never played the game.

 

[Ihatelife]

Apparently, you don’t use your eyes as a source.

Knowing what the defense is, and whose coverage responsibility it was (from coaches and players), is far more important than a fan using his eyes. What a stupid comment you just made. Obviously, never played the game.

Sometimes it’s not that complicated. Not that you could explain pass coverage to seven year old to begin with.

 

[rocklobster]

Vidlak and McDowell were playing in their first games leading the team. There are gonna be nervous mistakes and hiccups because of that. They’re still learning the offense. The combination of both of them playing sets up well, depending on the other team’s tendencies. Give them time.
The o-line failed to make a push at times. I was kind awestruck by the fact that there was trouble getting one yard more than once. More running and less passing, once the o-line puts it together.
I could reiterate what other posters have said, but what’s the point.
Give it time. This team will grow together, and gradually, and by the end of the year, we’re gonna have a fun, more consistent team to watch-on both sides of the ball.
I’m amazed by the Chicken Littles that frequent Egriz.
No patience at all for the the Griz, and this happens every year. Relax and go with the flow. Take it a game at a time, like the players do, and enjoy the season.
One thing is for certain, Bobby’s not gonna make it an easy practice this week.
Go Griz!

 

[Griz Time]

Knowing what the defense is, and whose coverage responsibility it was (from coaches and players), is far more important than a fan using his eyes. What a stupid comment you just made. Obviously, never played the game.

Sometimes it’s not that complicated. Not that you could explain pass coverage to seven year old to begin with.

Pickle?

 

[3-7-77]

Last year, we were commenting on those inconsistent LOSSES. We're making progress! :thumb:

 

[griznative24]

The Griz have things to work on, but they were always going to win and were in control of the game. I wasn’t worried for even a second.

Butler is a pretty good team and has a terrific qb.

The Griz ended up with a big advantage in the stats.

Some receivers and backs need to catch the ball. Way too many drops.

I liked both QB’s.

I wish we had blitzed more.

Riley Wilson had the first 2 tackles of game and ended up with 6, which I believe was 3d on team.

Why doesn’t McDowell carry out a fake after he hands off.

The kicker looked terrific. The punter averaged 47 in 3 punts.

No fumbles by Griz.

Cotton’s family was up from Texas.

Secondary had good position multiple times, but allowed the catch.

Vidlak had chance to run in for score on second
drive.

Special teams play was very good.

Backers looked good. Hill had nice game and 8 tackles.

The rb’s ran well.

A very nice stadium atmosphere. Over 25,000
attendance.

Agreed, it might of been the margaritas, but I walked away from that game higher on the Griz than I was coming into it. I like the more diverse playcalling and an emphasis on getting our athletes the ball

 

[mthoopsfan]

Sometimes it’s not that complicated. Not that you could explain pass coverage to seven year old to begin with.

Pickle?

The post sounded familiar. His early posts sound like Pickle. Good call.

 

[Alaska Griz]

Pickle?

The post sounded familiar. His early posts sound like Pickle. Good call.

It's pickle, I could tell by his "third" post.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I'm not being overly harsh. Havre is suggesting Meyer should've started over Robby for the last several years, and from not filling the lane as well as Robby used to and giving up a passing TD, just as you suggested he wasn't as good as our all-american safety last year. You can call it inexperience, and that's probably what it was, but I didn't see a guy that looked better than Robby yesterday.

I do see yet another Griz fan that has a hard on for hating on #17, though.

Thanks for clarification. I now understand your point better. Your response was much better worded than your initial post. I do think, Robby should have been substituted in obvious passing situations, regardless of who that substitute was. Robby had a few too many costly pass coverage break downs in his career. So, I see that observation as legit.

Wasn’t it Ryder that was chasing the WR on that long TD pass down the right sideline?

 

[uofmman1122]

Week 1 provides probably the least telling games of the entire season. So I'm not anywhere close to shoveling dirt on the Grizzlies. By late November, all that will be said about this game is that UM won by 15.

That said, I'm pretty surprised how many Griz fans are on here gassing up the Butler Bulldogs and even trying to hype non-scholarship programs in general. It's not everyone, to be sure. But it's a pretty sad look.

Where are these people gassing up Butler? I haven't seen anyone suggest anything other than that they're a decent non-scholly pioneer league team that may challenge for a playoff spot this year. All of that is true. No one is acting like they're NDSU, or anything.

 

[uofmman1122]

Thanks for clarification. I now understand your point better. Your response was much better worded than your initial post. I do think, Robby should have been substituted in obvious passing situations, regardless of who that substitute was. Robby had a few too many costly pass coverage break downs in his career. So, I see that observation as legit.

Wasn’t it Ryder that was chasing the WR on that long TD pass down the right sideline?

Yes, and I'm assuming mtgrizrule meant for another safety, because suggesting subbing out 5'10" Robby citing passing situation issues for 5'9" Meyer is an interesting proposition, for sure. :lol: