Post game: 9-3

[indian-outlaw]

Bobby had a comment after the game about only finding out about Troy Andersen being out the night before, which he said meant that his team practiced a lot of the week concentrating on stopping someone that wasn't going to play.

This may be true, and if it is, it would sort of make sense as to why the team looked so lost on D all day.

That said, if it is true, it's kind of unbelievable that our staff would spend so much time game-planning for one guy when everybody and their dog knew MSU was going to run it with 5 or 6 different guys running the show.

So either it was a really bad excuse, or a pretty damn inexcusable lack of judgment in their preparation for this game.

Honestly I don't know which is worse.

Very good post. To actually use the excuse that Troy Andersen didn't play as a reason for losing makes my head spin.

 

[PAGriz]

You should change your name bobby’s#2Fluffer

Bobby’s#1Fluffer is already taken by Playerrep

It’s amazing the whiny cry babies on here. It’s the Dlines fault, we do have the right players on the Dline, the Dline is tough enough, the DLine doesn’t have depth.....it’s all B.S.

They have plenty of depth and the have real Football dudes on that line.

It’s the scheme. Everyone knows what state was gonna do. You don’t even have to know football to know you should put 8 in the box against them and make you beat you with the pass.

I know, Stitt had a much better scheme, one that he used during his 9 win season.

Just a couple of points. 12 game schedule to get to 9.

Stitt never lost like this to MSU


What appeared to be a a difficult schedule turned out to be not so difficult.


2017 team was 7-4 and played 7 of the last 8 games with a back up red shirt freshman QB and the 8th with a WR at QB. That would doom any team.

All the crap stitt gets on here I suggest you look around this team and think about what this team looks like without the guys stitt brought in.

I look around and think about how Dante Olson wasn't good enough to play other than special teams with Stitt's teams. Only then because he didn't care about special teams.

You say the schedule wasn't difficult; the experts with the algorithms say it was. Possibly you missed USD beating SDSU today and what Monmouth has been doing. But yeah, Weber and SacSt were real weak, as was MSU. You're a Never-Haucker idiot.

The first sign of losing an argument is name calling. Unlike you I am not binary. It’s ok to criticize and still be on the side of what you are criticizing.

Was EWU and Davis what any expected? NO
Hence the schedule was not as difficult as everyone thought in September.
Stop with the Monmouth. They are a one and done team in the tournament.

I do think Hauck is a ass. Doesn’t mean he can’t coach. I think Belichek is an ass too.

Olson- He is a great player. One of the best wver to wear the uniform.

Who brought him to Montana?

Who should he have started in front of as a Freshman or sophomore?

I am not down on this team. “If you ever played the game” it’s a game of match ups. Some teams just don’t match up well. Ala Weber pounds sac state , we pound Weber and sac state pounds us Depending on the draw this team could make a deep run.

Take a breath. It’s ok. You can say it. Bobby was out coached by Choate. Didn’t make good adjustments. A 3 man front doesn’t work against a team the runs like they do. This was the worse beating the cats have given the Griz in a generation.

I get it. Your different. When most guys were beating off to The playmate of the month you were beating off to Bobby’s BIO in the game program.

Go Griz!

 

[pussycatkillerz]

This team has started slow every game this year minus Weber. It's just what they do. In Washington Griz they get away with it regardless of opponent.
On the road agianst average/decent teams they get away with it.
Agianst top 10 teams on the road, top it off with an emotionally charged rivalry, and it's the straw that broke the camel's back every time.

This years Griz team needed the 3 seed for a deep run. I really hope we somehow land the 6 seed and avoid traveling to #1/#2 early.

Seeing how this team has improved since 2017 has been damned impressive. Bobby's having success re-building the program and anyone with half a brain can see it. Rome wasn't built overnight and project Stitt left some serious parts of the foundation neglected. Haulk needs another year to finish repairs on these vital structural components.
Watch out for the the Griz over the next couple years. This teams ceiling is already high with these glaring issues.

Going to be a fun ride.

 

[PlayerRep]

I know, Stitt had a much better scheme, one that he used during his 9 win season.

Just a couple of points. 12 game schedule to get to 9.

Stitt never lost like this to MSU


What appeared to be a a difficult schedule turned out to be not so difficult.


2017 team was 7-4 and played 7 of the last 8 games with a back up red shirt freshman QB and the 8th with a WR at QB. That would doom any team.

All the crap stitt gets on here I suggest you look around this team and think about what this team looks like without the guys stitt brought in.

I look around and think about how Dante Olson wasn't good enough to play other than special teams with Stitt's teams. Only then because he didn't care about special teams.

You say the schedule wasn't difficult; the experts with the algorithms say it was. Possibly you missed USD beating SDSU today and what Monmouth has been doing. But yeah, Weber and SacSt were real weak, as was MSU. You're a Never-Haucker idiot.

The first sign of losing an argument is name calling. Unlike you I am not binary. It’s ok to criticize and still be on the side of what you are criticizing.

Was EWU and Davis what any expected? NO
Hence the schedule was not as difficult as everyone thought in September.
Stop with the Monmouth. They are a one and done team in the tournament.

I do think Hauck is a ass. Doesn’t mean he can’t coach. I think Belichek is an ass too.

Olson- He is a great player. One of the best wver to wear the uniform.

Who brought him to Montana?

Who should he have started in front of as a Freshman or sophomore?

I am not down on this team. “If you ever played the game” it’s a game of match ups. Some teams just don’t match up well. Ala Weber pounds sac state , we pound Weber and sac state pounds us Depending on the draw this team could make a deep run.

Take a breath. It’s ok. You can say it. Bobby was out coached by Choate. Didn’t make good adjustments. A 3 man front doesn’t work against a team the runs like they do. This was the worse beating the cats have given the Griz in a generation.

I get it. Your different. When most guys were beating off to The playmate of the month you were beating off to Bobby’s BIO in the game program.

Go Griz!

The first sign of a losing argument, is being unable to cite any reason to support or defend the argument.

I will be curious to learn what the coaches think on the D, or lack thereof. While UM generally plays 3 down lineman and a stand up 4th, it also brings a 5th safety up to essentially play a rover position and keeps the other safeties very involved in the run game. I'm not so sure that completely changing the D for one game at the end of the season is the right move. On the other hand, I agree that the defensive scheme didn't work, either in the first or second half. Weber supposedly had a great run game. The Griz D sure shut down Weber.

Hauck is not an ass. Bobby is a great guy. Has many great friends. You obviously don't know him, and also have an axe to grind with him.

 

[wbtfg]

Just a couple of points. 12 game schedule to get to 9.

Stitt never lost like this to MSU


What appeared to be a a difficult schedule turned out to be not so difficult.


2017 team was 7-4 and played 7 of the last 8 games with a back up red shirt freshman QB and the 8th with a WR at QB. That would doom any team.

All the crap stitt gets on here I suggest you look around this team and think about what this team looks like without the guys stitt brought in.

I look around and think about how Dante Olson wasn't good enough to play other than special teams with Stitt's teams. Only then because he didn't care about special teams.

You say the schedule wasn't difficult; the experts with the algorithms say it was. Possibly you missed USD beating SDSU today and what Monmouth has been doing. But yeah, Weber and SacSt were real weak, as was MSU. You're a Never-Haucker idiot.

The first sign of losing an argument is name calling. Unlike you I am not binary. It’s ok to criticize and still be on the side of what you are criticizing.

Was EWU and Davis what any expected? NO
Hence the schedule was not as difficult as everyone thought in September.
Stop with the Monmouth. They are a one and done team in the tournament.

I do think Hauck is a ass. Doesn’t mean he can’t coach. I think Belichek is an ass too.

Olson- He is a great player. One of the best wver to wear the uniform.

Who brought him to Montana?

Who should he have started in front of as a Freshman or sophomore?

I am not down on this team. “If you ever played the game” it’s a game of match ups. Some teams just don’t match up well. Ala Weber pounds sac state , we pound Weber and sac state pounds us Depending on the draw this team could make a deep run.

Take a breath. It’s ok. You can say it. Bobby was out coached by Choate. Didn’t make good adjustments. A 3 man front doesn’t work against a team the runs like they do. This was the worse beating the cats have given the Griz in a generation.

I get it. Your different. When most guys were beating off to The playmate of the month you were beating off to Bobby’s BIO in the game program.

Go Griz!

The first sign of a losing argument, is being unable to cite any reason to support or defend the argument.

I will be curious to learn what the coaches think on the D, or lack thereof. While UM generally plays 3 down lineman and a stand up 4th, it also brings a 5th safety up to essentially play a rover position and keeps the other safeties very involved in the run game. I'm not so sure that completely changing the D for one game at the end of the season is the right move. On the other hand, I agree that the defensive scheme didn't work, either in the first or second half. Weber supposedly had a great run game. The Griz D sure shut down Weber.

Hauck is not an ass. Bobby is a great guy. Has many great friends. You obviously don't know him, and also have an axe to grind with him.

I’m curious of your thought on Sterks play on Saturday. You’ve been calling him out by name the past couple weeks, did he live up to your expectations?

 

[stubbins]

We don’t need another thread, so I’ll just post this here:
I’m not even very mad. I don’t know how to explain perfectly, but I really feel like this was just a perfect storm of maybe a dozen or more factors that others have already mentioned. My wife was wondering if the fellas may have stayed out late last night, and I honestly wonder if she’s not onto something. I know I’d be more concerned if this was a season-ending loss like in recent history, but I think I’d just burn this tape, hope for a seed to heal up, and focus on the playoffs.

This is where I’m at...

 

[PAGriz]

Just a couple of points. 12 game schedule to get to 9.

Stitt never lost like this to MSU


What appeared to be a a difficult schedule turned out to be not so difficult.


2017 team was 7-4 and played 7 of the last 8 games with a back up red shirt freshman QB and the 8th with a WR at QB. That would doom any team.

All the crap stitt gets on here I suggest you look around this team and think about what this team looks like without the guys stitt brought in.

I look around and think about how Dante Olson wasn't good enough to play other than special teams with Stitt's teams. Only then because he didn't care about special teams.

You say the schedule wasn't difficult; the experts with the algorithms say it was. Possibly you missed USD beating SDSU today and what Monmouth has been doing. But yeah, Weber and SacSt were real weak, as was MSU. You're a Never-Haucker idiot.

The first sign of losing an argument is name calling. Unlike you I am not binary. It’s ok to criticize and still be on the side of what you are criticizing.

Was EWU and Davis what any expected? NO
Hence the schedule was not as difficult as everyone thought in September.
Stop with the Monmouth. They are a one and done team in the tournament.

I do think Hauck is a ass. Doesn’t mean he can’t coach. I think Belichek is an ass too.

Olson- He is a great player. One of the best wver to wear the uniform.

Who brought him to Montana?

Who should he have started in front of as a Freshman or sophomore?

I am not down on this team. “If you ever played the game” it’s a game of match ups. Some teams just don’t match up well. Ala Weber pounds sac state , we pound Weber and sac state pounds us Depending on the draw this team could make a deep run.

Take a breath. It’s ok. You can say it. Bobby was out coached by Choate. Didn’t make good adjustments. A 3 man front doesn’t work against a team the runs like they do. This was the worse beating the cats have given the Griz in a generation.

I get it. Your different. When most guys were beating off to The playmate of the month you were beating off to Bobby’s BIO in the game program.

Go Griz!

The first sign of a losing argument, is being unable to cite any reason to support or defend the argument.

I will be curious to learn what the coaches think on the D, or lack thereof. While UM generally plays 3 down lineman and a stand up 4th, it also brings a 5th safety up to essentially play a rover position and keeps the other safeties very involved in the run game. I'm not so sure that completely changing the D for one game at the end of the season is the right move. On the other hand, I agree that the defensive scheme didn't work, either in the first or second half. Weber supposedly had a great run game. The Griz D sure shut down Weber.

Hauck is not an ass. Bobby is a great guy. Has many great friends. You obviously don't know him, and also have an axe to grind with him.

I really don’t have an axe to grind. Just don’t like the guy personally. I know some things maybe not in the public forum from long ago that it’s improper to say on here and the way he handled the presser early on this year and the way he treated the reporter asking the questions.
The great thing about this country is I don’t have to like someone just because you do.

Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good coach.

In all serious I know I raz you a bit on here from time to time but you more than not have intelligent thoughtful and knowledgeable posts but when you add the incessant comments about other people’s knowledge and you Bobby can do know wrong contributions you lose me.

You really don’t need to do the last two things I mentioned. Your opinions on here articulate and credible. They stand on there own merits. You really don’t need to ridicule other people’s knowledge or their criticism of Bobby you lose credibility .

 

[pussycatkillerz]

Stitt never lost like this to MSU

-Stitt also never played MSU when they were a top team in the nation. In 2015 MSU was 5-6, 2016 4-7 and 2017 5-6 so your statement is stupid as stupid gets.

To go down the rabbit hole further...
-Stitt also lost to many UNRANKED teams in his second and third year (cal poly, Northern Colorado, NAU, MSU, Weber)
Bobby, in his second year, has the Griz kicking in the teeth of every single unranked team. Bobby even boat raced the #3 team in nation in his second year and has only lost to 2 top 8 teams.

We never even sniffed a seed with Stitt's teams.

I honestly don't even know why I'm arguing. If you can't see the step this program has taken with Hauck then I don't know what to tell you.
Maybe stop crying about MSU and accept the fact they finally have a legit football team that is going to give us fits and join us in playoff runs.

 

[grizindabox]

I really don’t have an axe to grind.

The first sign that someone has an axe to grind is when they tell people right of the bat that they don't.

 

[The.Real.2506]

Bobby had a comment after the game about only finding out about Troy Andersen being out the night before, which he said meant that his team practiced a lot of the week concentrating on stopping someone that wasn't going to play.

This may be true, and if it is, it would sort of make sense as to why the team looked so lost on D all day.

That said, if it is true, it's kind of unbelievable that our staff would spend so much time game-planning for one guy when everybody and their dog knew MSU was going to run it with 5 or 6 different guys running the show.

So either it was a really bad excuse, or a pretty damn inexcusable lack of judgment in their preparation for this game.

Honestly I don't know which is worse.

wasn't one of the questions in Mondays presser, how will they handle MSU's 9 running backs, Bobby made light of it by saying "Wait, they have 9 running backs?"

 

[Counter Assault]

If the UM DC/coaches watched MSU's film for the last handful of games, it is extremely apparent and notable that Troy has been hurt most of the year (leg) and got real hurt toward the end (leg, shoulder). We were playing every running back BUT him... Jones, Jonsen, Sumner, Perry... Hosey. Ifanse only got healthy for the Davis game. #15 6 carries for 38 yrds at Davis, and was playing REAL hurt. 3 carries for 14 at UNC.

 

[uofmman1122]

If the UM DC/coaches watched MSU's film for the last handful of games, it is extremely apparent and notable that Troy has been hurt most of the year (leg) and got real hurt toward the end (leg, shoulder). We were playing every running back BUT him... Jones, Jonsen, Sumner, Perry... Hosey. Ifanse only got healthy for the Davis game. #15 6 carries for 38 yrds at Davis, and was playing REAL hurt. 3 carries for 14 at UNC.

Exactly.

This is what makes me think it's just an excuse (to be fair, I rewatched, and Bobby called it an excuse, too).

If not, though, that's pretty unbelievable.

 

[Ursa Major]

Bobby had a comment after the game about only finding out about Troy Andersen being out the night before, which he said meant that his team practiced a lot of the week concentrating on stopping someone that wasn't going to play.

This may be true, and if it is, it would sort of make sense as to why the team looked so lost on D all day.

That said, if it is true, it's kind of unbelievable that our staff would spend so much time game-planning for one guy when everybody and their dog knew MSU was going to run it with 5 or 6 different guys running the show.

So either it was a really bad excuse, or a pretty damn inexcusable lack of judgment in their preparation for this game.

Honestly I don't know which is worse.

That stuck out to me also, 1122. That and the comment at the end about not getting over the loss. I think everyone expected the next sentence to be, we'll learn from this game and get better...

It seemed like a really tough press conference for Hauck--and it's understandable. He looked like a guy that just got pummeled by a rival.

I'm not sure I would put much stock into what he said. I'm sure the coaching staff saw the tape and recognized the complexity and multiple looks and personnel the cats running game presented and tried to prepare for it. I'm also doubtful that this staff won't use this loss as a motivation for playoffs and of course next year's game.

 

[George Ferguson]

Bobby had a comment after the game about only finding out about Troy Andersen being out the night before, which he said meant that his team practiced a lot of the week concentrating on stopping someone that wasn't going to play.

This may be true, and if it is, it would sort of make sense as to why the team looked so lost on D all day.

That said, if it is true, it's kind of unbelievable that our staff would spend so much time game-planning for one guy when everybody and their dog knew MSU was going to run it with 5 or 6 different guys running the show.

So either it was a really bad excuse, or a pretty damn inexcusable lack of judgment in their preparation for this game.

Honestly I don't know which is worse.

That stuck out to me also, 1122. That and the comment at the end about not getting over the loss. I think everyone expected the next sentence to be, we'll learn from this game and get better...

It seemed like a really tough press conference for Hauck--and it's understandable. He looked like a guy that just got pummeled by a rival.

I'm not sure I would put much stock into what he said. I'm sure the coaching staff saw the tape and recognized the complexity and multiple looks and personnel the cats running game presented and tried to prepare for it. I'm also doubtful that this staff won't use this loss as a motivation for playoffs and of course next year's game.

Actually, Hauck said all the way back on monday and on his radio show that he believed Troy would play a lot of snaps, it not all of them at QB?RB. I don't know what led up to him believing that but that's what he thought and he answered one of Colter's questions in Saturday's presser that that's where it hurt the most. They spent almost all of their prep time on Troy playing QB, and then when he didn't they weren't "as prepared" for some of the other stuff. And yes, he admitted it's an excuse, but it doesn't make it untrue that they practiced all week for Troy at QB, with Graves playing the role of TA.

 

[PlayerRep]

So Choate beats us again with another trick. Instead of calling a late TO. He tricks us in to preparing for TA.

I've heard that he's not going to stop beating the Griz until the posters on egriz call him by his correct name.

 

[ilovethecats]

Bobby had a comment after the game about only finding out about Troy Andersen being out the night before, which he said meant that his team practiced a lot of the week concentrating on stopping someone that wasn't going to play.

This may be true, and if it is, it would sort of make sense as to why the team looked so lost on D all day.

That said, if it is true, it's kind of unbelievable that our staff would spend so much time game-planning for one guy when everybody and their dog knew MSU was going to run it with 5 or 6 different guys running the show.

So either it was a really bad excuse, or a pretty damn inexcusable lack of judgment in their preparation for this game.

Honestly I don't know which is worse.

That stuck out to me also, 1122. That and the comment at the end about not getting over the loss. I think everyone expected the next sentence to be, we'll learn from this game and get better...

It seemed like a really tough press conference for Hauck--and it's understandable. He looked like a guy that just got pummeled by a rival.

I'm not sure I would put much stock into what he said. I'm sure the coaching staff saw the tape and recognized the complexity and multiple looks and personnel the cats running game presented and tried to prepare for it. I'm also doubtful that this staff won't use this loss as a motivation for playoffs and of course next year's game.

Actually, Hauck said all the way back on monday and on his radio show that he believed Troy would play a lot of snaps, it not all of them at QB?RB. I don't know what led up to him believing that but that's what he thought and he answered one of Colter's questions in Saturday's presser that that's where it hurt the most. They spent almost all of their prep time on Troy playing QB, and then when he didn't they weren't "as prepared" for some of the other stuff. And yes, he admitted it's an excuse, but it doesn't make it untrue that they practiced all week for Troy at QB, with Graves playing the role of TA.

Absolutely crazy to be honest. The guy gets a handful of snaps every game and had less and less as the season went along. Why on earth would he gameplan all week for a linebacker who might get 5 or so snaps on offense? Just seems odd.

Hell, a reporter even told him we use like 7 backs in the press conference! Guess how many guys got carries? 7. Guess it shows the impact Andersen is capable of having.

 

[wbtfg]

Troy isn’t actually hurt at all. Choate just held him out to disrupt Bobby’s game plan. Bold strategy.

 

[PlayerRep]

Troy isn’t actually hurt at all. Choate just held him out to disrupt Bobby’s game plan. Bold strategy.

That's what I figured. I'm actually glad to learn that the Griz focused on TA playing alot, resulting in Griz not preparing properly. I had assumed the Griz were very well prepared and the Cats just ran over them.

 

[Yukon]

Troy isn’t actually hurt at all. Choate just held him out to disrupt Bobby’s game plan. Bold strategy.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Bobby had a comment after the game about only finding out about Troy Andersen being out the night before, which he said meant that his team practiced a lot of the week concentrating on stopping someone that wasn't going to play.

This may be true, and if it is, it would sort of make sense as to why the team looked so lost on D all day.

That said, if it is true, it's kind of unbelievable that our staff would spend so much time game-planning for one guy when everybody and their dog knew MSU was going to run it with 5 or 6 different guys running the show.

So either it was a really bad excuse, or a pretty damn inexcusable lack of judgment in their preparation for this game.

Honestly I don't know which is worse.

That stuck out to me also, 1122. That and the comment at the end about not getting over the loss. I think everyone expected the next sentence to be, we'll learn from this game and get better...

It seemed like a really tough press conference for Hauck--and it's understandable. He looked like a guy that just got pummeled by a rival.

I'm not sure I would put much stock into what he said. I'm sure the coaching staff saw the tape and recognized the complexity and multiple looks and personnel the cats running game presented and tried to prepare for it. I'm also doubtful that this staff won't use this loss as a motivation for playoffs and of course next year's game.

Actually, Hauck said all the way back on monday and on his radio show that he believed Troy would play a lot of snaps, it not all of them at QB?RB. I don't know what led up to him believing that but that's what he thought and he answered one of Colter's questions in Saturday's presser that that's where it hurt the most. They spent almost all of their prep time on Troy playing QB, and then when he didn't they weren't "as prepared" for some of the other stuff. And yes, he admitted it's an excuse, but it doesn't make it untrue that they practiced all week for Troy at QB, with Graves playing the role of TA.

Absolutely crazy to be honest. The guy gets a handful of snaps every game and had less and less as the season went along. Why on earth would he gameplan all week for a linebacker who might get 5 or so snaps on offense? Just seems odd.

Hell, a reporter even told him we use like 7 backs in the press conference! Guess how many guys got carries? 7. Guess it shows the impact Andersen is capable of having.

Yep. Makes no sense to me either.