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Poll Guesses (Sept 23)
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grizfan95
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get'em_griz said:
get'em, you put far too much effort into this. You're completely correct, but I think bison is trolling.
To continue what you said though, I believe that NDSU's schedule so far is about B- material. Kansas State (A), Ferris St (D), and Delaware State (C-). UM's: App State (B+), UND (B-), OK Pan H St (D).
bison said:hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Not trying to trash talk, just calling it how I see it. The Grizz havent played a quality team yet this year.
I come on here to read the trash talking of MSUGood stuff!
Neither has msu and look where they're at? :shock: :shock: :shock:
FargoBison
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We'll know a lot more about how good teams are after this week. That said I think the Bobcats have been exposed, SFA is not a good football team. If the voters watched them play no way they would put them higher than #15...that said a lot of voters don't watch teams play so I doubt they fall that far.
BWahlberg said:
What do you think about SDSU barely escaping the ND game with a close W, and the Griz bitch slapping ND into the fetal position?
IdaGriz01
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Except for the really bad vibes out of Lincoln, I'd agree with you on SDSU. But a consensus seems to have grown that Nebraska just isn't that good. So their beat-down of SDSU may hurt more than we would otherwise think.BWahlberg said:
As for the Cats ... as I said in another post, the pollsters seems to really hate to admit they were wrong, and probably won't drop them from #3 to out of the top-10. Mind you, with their 2-2 record, they probably should drop that far. Just not sure they will.
grizhunter said:
:clap: Outstanding, and a REAL post!
Grizzaholic
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Is Eastern Illinois for real this year? They beat FBS San Diego State impressively and nearly came out with a win over FBS Northern Illinois.
IdaGriz01 said:With four teams in the top-10 losing, there is bound to be some fairly significant shuffling at the head of the list. MSU was “in” their game until near the end, but some pollsters will see only the final score. I have them dropping 4 slots (a fairly typical amount after a loss). But they could get hurt worse, since SF Austin was unranked and not even among the “Others receiving votes” in the last poll.
Of course, two of those top-10 losses were to FBS opponents, so the losers should drop less than usual. But after a slow start by Nebraska, SDSU got beat up pretty bad (and Nebraska may not be that good this year). Conversely, Eastern Illinois hung in there against a pretty good Northern team and only lost by 4 points -- so my guess has them only sliding one slot.
The lower tier in the poll only had the two losses, with one to a strong FBS opponent. But Beth-Cook lost by a lot, so I figure them to drop a typical four slots. I believe the other loss (an “upset”) will hurt Stony Brook (down 6) more than it helps Villanova (up 3). It’ll be interesting to see how that turns out.
Rank, Team (Record), [Old Rank]
1. North Dakota State (3-0) [1]
2. Eastern Washington (2-1) [2]
3. Towson (4-0) [4]
4. Sam Houston State (3-1) [5]
5. Northern Iowa (3-0) [7]
6. Montana (3-0) [9]
7. Montana State (2-2) [3]
8. New Hampshire (1-1) [11]
9. Eastern Illinois (3-1) [8]
10. South Dakota State (3-1) [6]
11. McNeese State (4-0) [12]
12. Coastal Carolina (4-0) [15]
13. Central Arkansas(2-2) [13]
14. Wofford (2-2) [10]
15. Georgia Southern (2-1) [14]
16. James Madison (3-1) [17]
17. Villanova (1-2) [20]
18. Cal Poly (1-2) [18]
19. Fordham (4-0) [21]
20. Richmond (2-2) [23]
21. Lehigh (3-0) [22]
22. Stony Brook (1-2) [16]
23. Bethune-Cookman (3-1) [19]
24. Tennessee-Martin (2-1) [24]
25. Northern Arizona (2-1) [25]
My guess for the Griz may be a bit optimistic, but I like it anyway.
The m cats held the lead 1 time in the whole game against a totally un-ranked team. And that fleeting lead was for a whopping whole two minutes and seconds, and not until the 4th qtr after SFA shot themselves in the foot. The m cats were down by two scores a lot against this non-feared team.
Any team in the top 10, that is 2-2 with wins only over monmouth and colorado mesa is a total flippin' joke.
No love for Portland State?
brootgrizr
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Both Appy & UND were considered reasonably strong teams BEFORE they played the Griz. Perhaps those two teams were overrated, or maybe the Griz were underrated. It is too early in the season to be sure. But, I'll bet the Cats (perhaps overrated) aren't taking UND for granted! Then there is Flagstaff... . The real season is about to begin!
IdaGriz01
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It sure is. I'm glad the Griz had a credible opponent on the road already. No matter what people say, now, everyone expected a tough "away" game at UND. For whatever reason (they're bad, the Griz are good, somewhere in between), that turned out to be a relatively easy win ... but the Griz went into it ready to play tough. That has to help now.brootgrizr said:
IdaGriz01
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Which, I think, captures the entire poll thing, this early in the season, in a nutshell. But isn't it fun to discuss/bitch about? Still, as my guess shows, I think the kitties will likely be in the top ten ... just because the pollsters hate to admit they were so wrong. (But I'd love to be wrong.IntuitiveGriz said:
)In my opinion the cats have to drop to around 13. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any team in the top 12 of last weeks poll has lost to an fcs opponent. It would be pretty weird if MSU was in front of some schools that that didn't have a loss to a team at our level. That being said it will probably happen.
bison said:
It's true that App St won't make the playoffs, but what's your basis for saying they aren't a playoff caliber team? They lost to a very good Montana team. They lost to a team they gave up only 244 yards to, because of a long kickoff return and turnovers. That team has not lost this year. Let's hear your analysis of why App St isn't playoff caliber.
NLGrizFan
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IMO, I think that the cats should fall below 20. The only team that they have actually played was SMU. Granted they're an FBS team but they still lost. If they can't hold up against a team that lost to Weber St is a waste of space in the top 25. But since they've held a spot in the polls for quite a while they shouldn't fall completely out. They have a win over the mighty Monmouth, lost the next one but barely handled a DII team. Yeah yeah they shut them out but the first string played the entire game and only put up 26 points. The Griz had 26 points in the first 9 or 10 mins against a DII team. I believe Monmouth and Colorado Mesa would probably beat OPSU tho. But if the #3 team can't stomp the piss out of a DII team and have the backups in by the 2nd or 3rd quarter, I would to think there is problems somewhere. IMO. (Discard the "FCT" on this post. I'm looking at this as a football fan.)
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