Playoffs are a dream but... UM, ISU and the kittens

[ranco]

I think Davis will beat Eastern, given the QB situation. I really think Davis has the overall best talent in the BS.

QB situation? EWU still might have a better overall QB than UM.

They may have a better QB than UM but they definitely don't have a better QB than Davis.

 

[marceagfan5]

I think Davis will beat Eastern, given the QB situation. I really think Davis has the overall best talent in the BS.

QB situation? EWU still might have a better overall QB than UM.

They may have a better QB than UM but they definitely don't have a better QB than Davis.

I think you'd be surprised how good EWU's QB is. Prior to Gubrud's announcement it was week to week, even day to day, if Gubrud was going to play so EB was running an offense built for Gubrud. Once the announcement came, the last two weeks Eastern has designed the offense for EB and he's been impressive...

Also, Eastern's defense is probably best in the BSC (hard to believe). They have yet to give up more than 17 in a conference game this year...

I'm a homer but I think EWU beats Davis this week and its not that close...

 

[PlayerRep]

I think if we win out and play well in both games, we're in the discussion. We'd be on a 3-game winning streak, and it's tough to pass us up when we beat UNI, should've beat WIU, have only 2 bad losses, and were leading in the 4th quarter in 3 of 4 losses this year. That has to account for something in that they believe we can hang with the best...plus, you can't discount that the Griz will bring in the most money. Regardless of what the committee says year in and year out, they care about money and would put in a 7-4 Griz team over a 6-5 MVFC team I believe.

I agree. MV is beating each other up. CAA still has a large number of teams in the mix. UM's UNI win and close call with WI, and win over Cats who beat WI, would be helpful. Most of the lessor conferences seem to have mainly 1 team in the mi. Hopefully, those teams win their conference and get the auto-bid, and don't get beat for the conference championship and take a 2d slot in the conference.

Big Sky may have 3 top teams and maybe seeded. Then, why not a 4th. Would hate to see ISU sneak in ahead of us. Note that they played Cal.

Probably less than 50-50, but possible. Good incentive for the team in the last 2 games. The o-line needs to block for Sneed and the running backs. I like that Calhoun has gotten more carries, and JLM got back into the mix. Curran may be coming back to life. Hopefully, Sims can get back in. Semenza needs to get back on track.

Of course, UM has considerable work to do in the last 2 games, so I am not going to get ahead of myself.

 

[grizindabox]

I think Davis will beat Eastern, given the QB situation. I really think Davis has the overall best talent in the BS.

QB situation? EWU still might have a better overall QB than UM.

They may have a better QB than UM but they definitely don't have a better QB than Davis.

I think EWU wins at home, but we shall see.

 

[bgbigdog]

I think if we win out and play well in both games, we're in the discussion. We'd be on a 3-game winning streak, and it's tough to pass us up when we beat UNI, should've beat WIU, have only 2 bad losses, and were leading in the 4th quarter in 3 of 4 losses this year. That has to account for something in that they believe we can hang with the best...plus, you can't discount that the Griz will bring in the most money. Regardless of what the committee says year in and year out, they care about money and would put in a 7-4 Griz team over a 6-5 MVFC team I believe.

You may have missed this but the precedent has already been set. A 6-5 Western Illinois team was dropped into the brackets a few years back, the year the Griz held on to beat SDSU (2015), & won their first round game. The Griz would have to win the next two in the same fashion as they beat SUU to get any buzz. & even then, a bunch of teams would need to falter in front of them.

 

[ranco]

I think Davis will beat Eastern, given the QB situation. I really think Davis has the overall best talent in the BS.

QB situation? EWU still might have a better overall QB than UM.

They may have a better QB than UM but they definitely don't have a better QB than Davis.

I think EWU wins at home, but we shall see.

Maybe they way they rolled us in the 4th qt has skewed my perspective but they rolled a lot of other teams this year, as well. Either way, it should be a great game.

 

[grizindabox]

QB situation? EWU still might have a better overall QB than UM.

They may have a better QB than UM but they definitely don't have a better QB than Davis.

I think EWU wins at home, but we shall see.

Maybe they way they rolled us in the 4th qt has skewed my perspective but they rolled a lot of other teams this year, as well. Either way, it should be a great game.

EWU won't fold in the 4th quarter like an old lawn chair.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

While I agree that I don't think the BSC really does get 4 in usually. Assuming no melt downs the BSC could have 3 seeded teams. If that were to happen it would greatly increase my thoughts the BSC would get 4 teams. It would be tough to say a conf that has 3 top 8 teams...don't have another team 8-24. I know that think is somewhat skewed train of thought...HOWEVER that has always been rational used why committee members choose teams. "It was a very competitive and good conference this year" Despite the fact MSU and UM have been mid par....the big sky has 3 teams in the top 6...that is impressive. That will most likely hold water when Kent is bargaining to get another BSC team in. Honestly I think MSU has a better shot at 7-4 than we do. Their losses are much more superior to ours EWU= UCD, WSU > WIU, SDSU >>>>>> PSU, ISU > ND. However IF and this is HUGE IF......we go to Idaho and beat down Idaho by 17+ then beat MSU by 17+...we MIGHT be able to be the 4th best team in the big sky. ISU will end either 7-4 or 6-5. I could see them losing to CP more than I could see them beating Weber

Either EWU or UCD is assured of having another loss. If EWU's third loss, unlikely they are seeded.

Idk when EWU lost to Weber they didn't move at all in the polls if i remember correctly. However 3 losses might be tough. the best hope would be EWU beats UCD by like 3

 

[Grizzlies1982]

I think if we win out and play well in both games, we're in the discussion. We'd be on a 3-game winning streak, and it's tough to pass us up when we beat UNI, should've beat WIU, have only 2 bad losses, and were leading in the 4th quarter in 3 of 4 losses this year. That has to account for something in that they believe we can hang with the best...plus, you can't discount that the Griz will bring in the most money. Regardless of what the committee says year in and year out, they care about money and would put in a 7-4 Griz team over a 6-5 MVFC team I believe.

Don't see Montana in the playoffs regardless. Yet do agree with two solid wins the Griz could be in the discussion versus a 6-5 team, and the NCAA does like $$$.

However, virtually everything else you wrote sounds like it came straight from a bobcat fan... "Should've beat... leading late in games (which were lost)..., hang with the best..." This is all pure msu style B.S. which their fans have spewed for decades. Now go wash out your mouth with soap and don't do it again!
:ugeek:

 

[Mousegriz]

I think if we win out and play well in both games, we're in the discussion. We'd be on a 3-game winning streak, and it's tough to pass us up when we beat UNI, should've beat WIU, have only 2 bad losses, and were leading in the 4th quarter in 3 of 4 losses this year. That has to account for something in that they believe we can hang with the best...plus, you can't discount that the Griz will bring in the most money. Regardless of what the committee says year in and year out, they care about money and would put in a 7-4 Griz team over a 6-5 MVFC team I believe.

Don't see Montana in the playoffs regardless. Yet do agree with two solid wins the Griz could be in the discussion versus a 6-5 team, and the NCAA does like $$$.

However, virtually everything else you wrote sounds like it came straight from a bobcat fan... "Should've beat... leading late in games (which were lost)..., hang with the best..." This is all pure msu style B.S. which their fans have spewed for decades. Now go wash out your mouth with soap and don't do it again!
:ugeek:

Love it! "If only"!!

 

[daGrizJ]

I think Davis will beat Eastern, given the QB situation. I really think Davis has the overall best talent in the BS.

QB situation? EWU still might have a better overall QB than UM.

They may have a better QB than UM but they definitely don't have a better QB than Davis.

I think you'd be surprised how good EWU's QB is. Prior to Gubrud's announcement it was week to week, even day to day, if Gubrud was going to play so EB was running an offense built for Gubrud. Once the announcement came, the last two weeks Eastern has designed the offense for EB and he's been impressive...

Also, Eastern's defense is probably best in the BSC (hard to believe). They have yet to give up more than 17 in a conference game this year...

I'm a homer but I think EWU beats Davis this week and its not that close...

I agree. I have watched the last couple of EWU games and, much to my chagrin, Barriere has been damn impressive. He's is a much bigger threat to run than Gubrud and I don't see a big drop off in passing. This weekend's game should be very interesting.

 

[SeattleBobcat]

24 Team playoff... Looks like 14 spots are probably already sewn up

I realize its a very very very very long shot... but lets look any ways
UM, ISU and msu are in the same boat. Need to win out and get a lot of help.

#30 Idaho State (6-3) will be in if it wins out (Plays Poly and Weber) would be 8-3
Montana (5-4) Needs to win out and get a lot of help (Play Idaho and kittens)
kittens (5-4) Needs to win out and get a lot of help (play UNC and Montana)


Will be in the FCS Playoffs baring a Miracle (8)
#1 North Dakota State (9-0)
#2 Kennesaw State (8-1)
#6 UC Davis (8-1)
#4 Weber State (7-2)
#5 Eastern Washington (7-2)
#12 Colgate (8-0)
#22 East Tennessee St. (8-2) (Probable Southern Conf. Champ)
#34 San Diego (7-2) Plays Stetson this Saturday (Winner is Pioneer League Champ)

Probably only need 1 more win(6)
#3 James Madison (6-3) -Got killed by a bad team this last week
#7 S. Dakota St (6-2)
#8 Elon (6-2)
#9 Wofford (6-3)
#10 Jacksonville State (7-2)
#13 Delaware (7-2)

Griz/ISU/msu need these teams to lose at least 1 more game, probably 2
#11 McNeese (6-3)
#15 Towson (6-3)
#16 Stony Brook (6-3)
#20 Nicholls State (6-3)
#25 Southeast Missouri (7-2)

Griz/ISU/msu need these teams to lose 1 more game
A five Loss team had better be from the MV Conf to get in (This happened a few years ago)
#14 Illinois State (5-4)
#19 Central Arkansas (5-4)
#21 Sam Houston St (5-4)
#23 Maine (5-3)
#26 North Dakota (5-4)
#27 Northern Iowa (5-4) yes UM beat them but the committee has always had a boner for UNI
#28 Florida A&M (6-3) "Might" get in if they win last two and finish (8-3) 7-4 not in (week Sched)
#29 Chattanooga (6-3)
#31 Rhode Island (5-4)
#32 Western Illinois (5-4)
#33 Monmouth (7-2) Plays #2 Kennesaw State, a loss especially a bad one probably sends them packing- very week schedule

The Ivy still does not Participate in the Playoffs
#18 Princeton (8-0) OUT
#24 Dartmouth (7-1) OUT

The SWAC has a Celebration Bowl and No other team looks like they will get in
#35 Alcorn State (7-3) *Southwestern Athletic Conference (game)

The MEAC has a Celebration Bowl and No other team looks like they will get in
#17 N Carolina A&T (7-2)

Good summation, but in my opinion, none of those 3 teams deserve to be in the playoffs. MSU and UM are just not good enough, ISU will probably not make it thru Weber, as we held them to 24 and our D has been a sieve this year.

I'd say all 3 are on the cusp, but just not quite good enough to not get your ass handed to you in the playoffs.

 

[ilovethecats]

24 Team playoff... Looks like 14 spots are probably already sewn up

I realize its a very very very very long shot... but lets look any ways
UM, ISU and msu are in the same boat. Need to win out and get a lot of help.

#30 Idaho State (6-3) will be in if it wins out (Plays Poly and Weber) would be 8-3
Montana (5-4) Needs to win out and get a lot of help (Play Idaho and kittens)
kittens (5-4) Needs to win out and get a lot of help (play UNC and Montana)


Will be in the FCS Playoffs baring a Miracle (8)
#1 North Dakota State (9-0)
#2 Kennesaw State (8-1)
#6 UC Davis (8-1)
#4 Weber State (7-2)
#5 Eastern Washington (7-2)
#12 Colgate (8-0)
#22 East Tennessee St. (8-2) (Probable Southern Conf. Champ)
#34 San Diego (7-2) Plays Stetson this Saturday (Winner is Pioneer League Champ)

Probably only need 1 more win(6)
#3 James Madison (6-3) -Got killed by a bad team this last week
#7 S. Dakota St (6-2)
#8 Elon (6-2)
#9 Wofford (6-3)
#10 Jacksonville State (7-2)
#13 Delaware (7-2)

Griz/ISU/msu need these teams to lose at least 1 more game, probably 2
#11 McNeese (6-3)
#15 Towson (6-3)
#16 Stony Brook (6-3)
#20 Nicholls State (6-3)
#25 Southeast Missouri (7-2)

Griz/ISU/msu need these teams to lose 1 more game
A five Loss team had better be from the MV Conf to get in (This happened a few years ago)
#14 Illinois State (5-4)
#19 Central Arkansas (5-4)
#21 Sam Houston St (5-4)
#23 Maine (5-3)
#26 North Dakota (5-4)
#27 Northern Iowa (5-4) yes UM beat them but the committee has always had a boner for UNI
#28 Florida A&M (6-3) "Might" get in if they win last two and finish (8-3) 7-4 not in (week Sched)
#29 Chattanooga (6-3)
#31 Rhode Island (5-4)
#32 Western Illinois (5-4)
#33 Monmouth (7-2) Plays #2 Kennesaw State, a loss especially a bad one probably sends them packing- very week schedule

The Ivy still does not Participate in the Playoffs
#18 Princeton (8-0) OUT
#24 Dartmouth (7-1) OUT

The SWAC has a Celebration Bowl and No other team looks like they will get in
#35 Alcorn State (7-3) *Southwestern Athletic Conference (game)

The MEAC has a Celebration Bowl and No other team looks like they will get in
#17 N Carolina A&T (7-2)

Good summation, but in my opinion, none of those 3 teams deserve to be in the playoffs. MSU and UM are just not good enough, ISU will probably not make it thru Weber, as we held them to 24 and our D has been a sieve this year.

I'd say all 3 are on the cusp, but just not quite good enough to not get your ass handed to you in the playoffs.

If the cats or griz were to win out and somehow some way get a playoff game, I can assure you neither one would get their asses handed to them. They might lose. The game might not be pretty. But I don’t see either team, on a 3 game streak, likely playing at home, getting killed in a playoff game.

 

[Fahque]

Never mind

 

[votb]

Just beat the spuds and kittens! We’ve got two weeks of rivalry games ahead of us folks! The rest is out of our control.

You bring up a good point. Let's say Griz win both games. Haslam could bring up the point that the Griz ended the season on a high note, knocking off both rivals.

IFAIK, Haslam can't have any input on his university's football team, just like none of the other ADs can have input on their own school's chances.

Can't have any input, or can't be in room when UM is discussed/considered?

How the Big Sky teams be considered, as well as even UNI, without Haslam likely mentioning the Griz.

The committee must go to dinner or have drinks (milk for Haslam), and I assume informal discussions occur.

In 2014 when Jeff Tingey was on the committee he had to leave the room while the rest of the committee discussed ISU.

 

[kemajic]

I think you'd be surprised how good EWU's QB is.

I think you'll be surprised how good UC Davis's QB is. He has not had a game like the one Barriere had against Weber in his two years, even vs. Stanford. You may win at home, but it will take more than 17 to do it.

 

[kemajic]

Good summation, but in my opinion, none of those 3 teams deserve to be in the playoffs. MSU and UM are just not good enough, ISU will probably not make it thru Weber, as we held them to 24 and our D has been a sieve this year.

Probably the wisest post of the thread.

 

[GGG21]

Does anybody really believe this team deserves to get into the playoffs? They don’t and should not.

 

[PlayerRep]

Does anybody really believe this team deserves to get into the playoffs? They don’t and should not.

I do. Don't know if they will win the next 2 games and get there, tho.

Any team that makes the playoffs deserves to be there.

My view is that any fan who says a team that makes the playoffs doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs, doesn't deserve to have anyone pay attention to their dumb comments.

 

[retiredpopo]

I heard from a reliable source who has not been wrong too many times that if we win out we most likely get a playoff game at home. No other team in our predicament would be able to get a friday or saturday game after Thanksgiving and sell 16,000 tickets. If we win out of course we deserve to be playing Thanksgiving weekend. See there because we will win out.