Playoffs are a dream but... UM, ISU and the kittens

[grizare#1]

And would need to be big lopsided wins like this past weekend to help the argument but my heart says it ain't gonna happen.

 

[Fahque]

UM is not getting the auto, so they go to the 14 at-large. At-large will be BSC-2, CAA-4, MVFC-3, MEAC-1, OVC-1, SLC-1 or 2, SC 1 or 2.

We know they are not getting the auto bid as that goes to the conference champion, but there is very outside chance of getting an at large

 

[GraniteGriz80]

Are only chance is to win out and with dominate wins. I would be very surprised if the Big Sky gets 4 teams in this year. We need more teams then just EWU making deep playoff runs. But I guess we will see. 1 game at a time for us. Hopefully we can win out strong.

 

[SACCAT66]

Are only chance is to win out and with dominate wins. I would be very surprised if the Big Sky gets 4 teams in this year. We need more teams then just EWU making deep playoff runs. But I guess we will see. 1 game at a time for us. Hopefully we can win out strong.

Weber had a playoff run last year.

 

[Jaredkuehn]

It’s probably a long shot, but for the Griz to go 7-4 means they finish the season on a 3 game win streak, with two wins on the road.

It seems that historically teams that finish strong are given the nod over teams that finish weak. EWU in ‘17 is a perfect example of that.

Cats and Griz are the only teams in the running for a fourth BSC playoff spot, IMO. They would both finish on three game win streaks to get to 7-4. ISU is likely to finish with a loss to Weber to end up 7-4. Don’t see them making the cut.

The BSC would need some help to get a fourth playoff spot, I believe a 7-4 Griz team is at least in the playoff discussion.

Go Griz!

Idaho state could very well finish 8-3. They’ll beat poly and they get Weber at home. The griz absolutely need Weber to win that one...

As for your EWU reference to last year...Eastern finished winning their last 2 and played a much much tougher non conference schedule and were still left out at 7-4.

NAU and Poly losing to San Diego in the playoffs kills the big sky for bubble teams at 7-4. So does the home loss to PSU.

Unfortunately, I see the committee taking a 6-5 Missouri Valley team over a 7-4 big sky team all day long. Not that I agree....

I think EWU and the BSC got screwed on that deal last year. I know the Eagles had a really tough schedule, but they did finish 2-2, with their final two wins being a 7 point win over a hapless UND and blowout over a terrible PSU team. I don't think they were playing their best ball at the end of last season.

Of all teams in the BSC, EWU should have had some playoff "equity." Despite what other BSC bubble teams had done in the past, EWU should have been given the benefit of a doubt at 7-4, especially considering their schedule. The only reasoning I can come up with for why they got left out was a weak finish to the season.

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

Just beat the spuds and kittens! We’ve got two weeks of rivalry games ahead of us folks! The rest is out of our control.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

While I agree that I don't think the BSC really does get 4 in usually. Assuming no melt downs the BSC could have 3 seeded teams. If that were to happen it would greatly increase my thoughts the BSC would get 4 teams. It would be tough to say a conf that has 3 top 8 teams...don't have another team 8-24. I know that think is somewhat skewed train of thought...HOWEVER that has always been rational used why committee members choose teams. "It was a very competitive and good conference this year" Despite the fact MSU and UM have been mid par....the big sky has 3 teams in the top 6...that is impressive. That will most likely hold water when Kent is bargaining to get another BSC team in. Honestly I think MSU has a better shot at 7-4 than we do. Their losses are much more superior to ours EWU= UCD, WSU > WIU, SDSU >>>>>> PSU, ISU > ND. However IF and this is HUGE IF......we go to Idaho and beat down Idaho by 17+ then beat MSU by 17+...we MIGHT be able to be the 4th best team in the big sky. ISU will end either 7-4 or 6-5. I could see them losing to CP more than I could see them beating Weber

 

[grizindabox]

So what are some of the plans for Thanksgiving weekend without Griz football?

 

[uofmman1122]

I think we're a pretty big longshot to make it, although the PSU loss isn't looking quite as bad as it did at the time.

I think we're gonna have to win these last two games by two scores or more to even be considered, and have quite a few upsets on teams ahead of us.

Since we can't control the second part, just concentrating on kicking the shit out of our two rivals is good enough for me. :thumb:

 

[Yukon]

Just beat the spuds and kittens! We’ve got two weeks of rivalry games ahead of us folks! The rest is out of our control.

You bring up a good point. Let's say Griz win both games. Haslam could bring up the point that the Griz ended the season on a high note, knocking off both rivals.

 

[uofmman1122]

Just beat the spuds and kittens! We’ve got two weeks of rivalry games ahead of us folks! The rest is out of our control.

You bring up a good point. Let's say Griz win both games. Haslam could bring up the point that the Griz ended the season on a high note, knocking off both rivals.

IFAIK, Haslam can't have any input on his university's football team, just like none of the other ADs can have input on their own school's chances.

 

[PlayerRep]

Just beat the spuds and kittens! We’ve got two weeks of rivalry games ahead of us folks! The rest is out of our control.

You bring up a good point. Let's say Griz win both games. Haslam could bring up the point that the Griz ended the season on a high note, knocking off both rivals.

IFAIK, Haslam can't have any input on his university's football team, just like none of the other ADs can have input on their own school's chances.

Can't have any input, or can't be in room when UM is discussed/considered?

How the Big Sky teams be considered, as well as even UNI, without Haslam likely mentioning the Griz.

The committee must go to dinner or have drinks (milk for Haslam), and I assume informal discussions occur.

 

[kemajic]

While I agree that I don't think the BSC really does get 4 in usually. Assuming no melt downs the BSC could have 3 seeded teams. If that were to happen it would greatly increase my thoughts the BSC would get 4 teams. It would be tough to say a conf that has 3 top 8 teams...don't have another team 8-24. I know that think is somewhat skewed train of thought...HOWEVER that has always been rational used why committee members choose teams. "It was a very competitive and good conference this year" Despite the fact MSU and UM have been mid par....the big sky has 3 teams in the top 6...that is impressive. That will most likely hold water when Kent is bargaining to get another BSC team in. Honestly I think MSU has a better shot at 7-4 than we do. Their losses are much more superior to ours EWU= UCD, WSU > WIU, SDSU >>>>>> PSU, ISU > ND. However IF and this is HUGE IF......we go to Idaho and beat down Idaho by 17+ then beat MSU by 17+...we MIGHT be able to be the 4th best team in the big sky. ISU will end either 7-4 or 6-5. I could see them losing to CP more than I could see them beating Weber

Either EWU or UCD is assured of having another loss. If EWU's third loss, unlikely they are seeded.

 

[Paytonlives]

New poll out...

Good news ia ALOT of teams in front of UM have a good chance of losing
!= possible L's

!#20 Towson (6-3) at #7 Elon (6-2) 10AM
#21 Southeast Missouri State (7-2) at Murray State (4-5) 10AM
!#22 Northern Iowa (5-4) at Youngstown (3-6) 10AM
!#23 Illinois State (5-4) at Indiana State (5-4) 11AM
!#24 Idaho State (6-3) at Cal-Poly (3-6) 5:05PM
#25 Dartmouth (7-1) at Cornell (3-5) 11:30AM

!#26 Central Arkansas (5-4) vs. #31 Incarnate Word (5-4) 2PM
#27 Samford (5-4) at Citidel (3-5) Noon
#28 San Diego (7-2) vs. Davidson (5-4) 3PM
!#29 Monmouth (7-2) vs #2 Kennesaw State (8-1) 10AM
!#30 Western Illinois (5-4) at South Dakota (3-6) Noon
!#31 Incarnate Word (5-4) at #26 Central Arkansas (5-4)
!#32 Chattanooga (6-3) vs Mercer (4-5) 11AM
!#33 Sam Houston St (5-4) vs. Abilene Christian (5-4) 1:30PM
!#34 Rhode Island (5-4) at #9 James Madison (6-3) Noon
#35 Florida A&M (6-3) vs. South Carolina State (3-5) 2PM

 

[AZGrizFan]

While I agree that I don't think the BSC really does get 4 in usually. Assuming no melt downs the BSC could have 3 seeded teams. If that were to happen it would greatly increase my thoughts the BSC would get 4 teams. It would be tough to say a conf that has 3 top 8 teams...don't have another team 8-24. I know that think is somewhat skewed train of thought...HOWEVER that has always been rational used why committee members choose teams. "It was a very competitive and good conference this year" Despite the fact MSU and UM have been mid par....the big sky has 3 teams in the top 6...that is impressive. That will most likely hold water when Kent is bargaining to get another BSC team in. Honestly I think MSU has a better shot at 7-4 than we do. Their losses are much more superior to ours EWU= UCD, WSU > WIU, SDSU >>>>>> PSU, ISU > ND. However IF and this is HUGE IF......we go to Idaho and beat down Idaho by 17+ then beat MSU by 17+...we MIGHT be able to be the 4th best team in the big sky. ISU will end either 7-4 or 6-5. I could see them losing to CP more than I could see them beating Weber

Will they still have 3 teams in the top 8 when the season is over?

Plus, MSU and us can't both finish 7-4. Unless you're saying THEY would have a better shot at getting in if they beat us and go 7-4...

 

[grizeyes]

No chance, unless we beat Idaho and MSU in the same manner we beat SUU, If that happens, there's a chance! Long shot chance, maybe.

Go Griz!

 

[nzone]

In my humble opinion:
UC davis won’t go into Cheney and beat eastern. Eastern’s Defense is to good. Davis at 7-1 and 9-2
Eastern finishes 7-1 and 9-2.
Weber will finish 7-1 and win the auto bid leaving davis and eastern at large with eastern and Weber seeded.
Idaho State finishes 7-4.
Montana finishes 7-4
bobcats finishes 6-5

IF the bigsky gets 4 in (that’s a big if) the final selection will be based on the final game. If Montana can handle state ag going away and Weber handles Idaho St Montana might get in.

First things first....we have to get by idaho this weekend. To do that we have to neutralize Saunders and not turn over the ball.

Go Griz!

 

[ranco]

I think Davis will beat Eastern, given the QB situation. I really think Davis has the overall best talent in the BS.

 

[grizindabox]

I think Davis will beat Eastern, given the QB situation. I really think Davis has the overall best talent in the BS.

QB situation? EWU still might have a better overall QB than UM.

 

[#15 Fan]

I think if we win out and play well in both games, we're in the discussion. We'd be on a 3-game winning streak, and it's tough to pass us up when we beat UNI, should've beat WIU, have only 2 bad losses, and were leading in the 4th quarter in 3 of 4 losses this year. That has to account for something in that they believe we can hang with the best...plus, you can't discount that the Griz will bring in the most money. Regardless of what the committee says year in and year out, they care about money and would put in a 7-4 Griz team over a 6-5 MVFC team I believe.