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nzone said:
We played good against Washington and played EWU down to the last play. Sac State was a good team which we would have beat without untimely penalties, a slew of missed tackles, 1 very costly turnover, an offside by a blitzing corner, and an offensive scheme that needs "adjusting." This team never founds its legs after EWU. So unless they can get the confidence back and eliminate the mistakes it may be a long 5 weeks. An 8-3 Montana record we are in. Anything less we are at the awards banquet.
Personally I believe we will be 8-2 going into the cat game. 9-2 we're seeded.

Go Griz!!

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but those are quite a few important things. It's like when I ask my buddy what he shot and he says 82, "but I three-putted four times and hit two OB, so really it was more like 74." Not trying to be a dick; it just kinda made me laugh. I sincerely hope we figure those things out.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
nzone said:
We played good against Washington and played EWU down to the last play. Sac State was a good team which we would have beat without untimely penalties, a slew of missed tackles, 1 very costly turnover, an offside by a blitzing corner, and an offensive scheme that needs "adjusting." This team never founds its legs after EWU. So unless they can get the confidence back and eliminate the mistakes it may be a long 5 weeks. An 8-3 Montana record we are in. Anything less we are at the awards banquet.
Personally I believe we will be 8-2 going into the cat game. 9-2 we're seeded.

Go Griz!!

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but those are quite a few important things. It's like when I ask my buddy what he shot and he says 82, "but I three-putted four times and hit two OB, so really it was more like 74." Not trying to be a dick; it just kinda made me laugh. I sincerely hope we figure those things out.

Everything can be easily corrected.
 
I predict this grizz team wins an ugly slugfest at Idaho, and then wins the rest until NAU. So, 7-3 coming into the Brawl. Cats will be 8-2 coming into the Brawl with a loss at EWU. Sac will lose to Davis and piss away their chance for shared title with EWU (who goes 8-0).

EWU - #2 seed
MSU with Brawl win - #6 seed otherwise home Rd 1
Sac - #8 seed (or #4 if they go 8-0)
UM - at large home Rd 1
Davis - At large and home Rd 1(or #6 seed if 7-1)

5 teams total. If Cats go 9-2 then the BSC will get 3 seeded team exactly like 2019. It's also possible UM gets a high seed at 8-3 with a solid Brawl win.
 
ABQCat said:
I predict this grizz team wins an ugly slugfest at Idaho, and then wins the rest until NAU. So, 7-3 coming into the Brawl. Cats will be 8-2 coming into the Brawl with a loss at EWU. Sac will lose to Davis and piss away their chance for shared title with EWU (who goes 8-0).

EWU - #2 seed
MSU with Brawl win - #6 seed otherwise home Rd 1
Sac - #8 seed (or #4 if they go 8-0)
UM - at large home Rd 1
Davis - At large and home Rd 1(or #6 seed if 7-1)

5 teams total. If Cats go 9-2 then the BSC will get 3 seeded team exactly like 2019. It's also possible UM gets a high seed at 8-3 with a solid Brawl win.
So what if the Griz win the brawl? Does a 9-2 Griz team with wins over UW and the cats with respectable losses to 2 other playoff teams get them a seed in your mind? In my mind it should, but curious to hear your take.
 
Griz til I die said:
ABQCat said:
I predict this grizz team wins an ugly slugfest at Idaho, and then wins the rest until NAU. So, 7-3 coming into the Brawl. Cats will be 8-2 coming into the Brawl with a loss at EWU. Sac will lose to Davis and piss away their chance for shared title with EWU (who goes 8-0).

EWU - #2 seed
MSU with Brawl win - #6 seed otherwise home Rd 1
Sac - #8 seed (or #4 if they go 8-0)
UM - at large home Rd 1
Davis - At large and home Rd 1(or #6 seed if 7-1)

5 teams total. If Cats go 9-2 then the BSC will get 3 seeded teams exactly like 2019. It's also possible UM gets a high seed at 8-3 with a solid Brawl win.
So what if the Griz win the brawl? Does a 9-2 Griz team with wins over UW and the cats with respectable losses to 2 other playoff teams get them a seed in your mind? In my mind it should, but curious to hear your take.
UM can get as high as #3 or 4 imo at 9-2. Higher than the Cats at 9-2 because because of the UW win. In that case it's EWU, UM and SAC as seeds, or Sac gets dropped from either an extra loss or too many teams that are seed-eligible. (see below for edit)

I decided to edit this and say UM will likely be down to #6 or 7 because of the 2 conference loses. Still a seed tho.
 
ABQCat said:
Griz til I die said:
So what if the Griz win the brawl? Does a 9-2 Griz team with wins over UW and the cats with respectable losses to 2 other playoff teams get them a seed in your mind? In my mind it should, but curious to hear your take.
UM can get as high as #3 or 4 imo at 9-2. Higher than the Cats at 9-2 because because of the UW win. In that case it's EWU, UM and SAC as seeds, or Sac gets dropped from either an extra loss or too many teams that are seed-eligible. (see below for edit)

I decided to edit this and say UM will likely be down to #6 or 7 because of the 2 conference loses. Still a seed tho.

Pretty solid forecast
 
I admire the fight in this team, and I'm not giving up on them, but as it stands right now with this offense, we're a lot closer to 7-4 than we are 9-2.

I don't see us beating MSU, and could see us losing one (or even both) of UI and NAU.

We have the horses to potentially turn it around, but if they keep playing like they have been, I don't think the playoffs are a solid bet.
 
ABQCat said:
Griz til I die said:
So what if the Griz win the brawl? Does a 9-2 Griz team with wins over UW and the cats with respectable losses to 2 other playoff teams get them a seed in your mind? In my mind it should, but curious to hear your take.
UM can get as high as #3 or 4 imo at 9-2. Higher than the Cats at 9-2 because because of the UW win. In that case it's EWU, UM and SAC as seeds, or Sac gets dropped from either an extra loss or too many teams that are seed-eligible. (see below for edit)

I decided to edit this and say UM will likely be down to #6 or 7 because of the 2 conference loses. Still a seed tho.
I think that's pretty accurate. I think a 3 or 4 is possible if some teams fall. For example, if JMU loses to Delaware this week that will definitely help. Same with SDSU if they lose to NDSU then it's possible. The valley's gonna beat up on each other and I suspect that these teams in the Bog South and Socon are gonna drop off at some point. Those teams are never really able to sustain it. First things first, Griz gotta handle their business from here on out.

I also think that UC Davis is going to lose to Eastern. That would mean that loser of the game at the end of the year would have 3 losses and I don't think a 3 loss Big Sky team gets a seed this year. Good takes though ABQcat!
 
UM gets by Idaho they will be 8-2 on November 20th. Wouldn’t be surprised if we get Child’s and Otsmo back in the near future.
 
reinell30 said:
With this predictable offense and over worked defense, we will not see the playoffs. Idaho will school this team Saturday and all playoff talks will be done! Once the 1st couple games surfaced on video, the griz have gone down hill. Every other team watches the game films and know exactly what Rosey and Bear are doing! Someone better get creative quick or season over!

No skin in the game on this one but I have a hard time seeing Idaho beat Montana after watching their defense give up 71 points on Saturday.
 
EWURanger29 said:
reinell30 said:
With this predictable offense and over worked defense, we will not see the playoffs. Idaho will school this team Saturday and all playoff talks will be done! Once the 1st couple games surfaced on video, the griz have gone down hill. Every other team watches the game films and know exactly what Rosey and Bear are doing! Someone better get creative quick or season over!

No skin in the game on this one, but I have a hard time seeing Idaho beat Montana after watching their defense give up 71 points on Saturday.
I think it’s a battle between Reinell and Helena regarding who can be the negative voice against the Griz!
 
Spanky2 said:
EWURanger29 said:
No skin in the game on this one, but I have a hard time seeing Idaho beat Montana after watching their defense give up 71 points on Saturday.
I think it’s a battle between Reinell and Helena regarding who can be the negative voice against the Griz!

Yeah, my bad. Difficult to believe someone may have some reservations with how great the offense has been playing.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Spanky2 said:
I think it’s a battle between Reinell and Helena regarding who can be the negative voice against the Griz!

Yeah, my bad. Difficult to believe someone may have some reservations with how great the offense has been playing.

Idaho’s awful. Just really bad.
 
EWURanger29 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Yeah, my bad. Difficult to believe someone may have some reservations with how great the offense has been playing.

Idaho’s awful. Just really bad.
So is Dixie State, and we struggled to score on them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Spanky2 said:
EWURanger29 said:
No skin in the game on this one, but I have a hard time seeing Idaho beat Montana after watching their defense give up 71 points on Saturday.
I think it’s a battle between Reinell and Helena regarding who can be the negative voice against the Griz!


Well for the 1st time in a very long time we agree on something....maroon colored glasses will not fix the problem. This team has issues and I believe it stims from Rosey!

Spanky2, if you are happy with this teams performance, good on you!
 
As with all years, resume will matter if we are able to right the ship. If we win out we have both quality wins and quality losses. If EWU holds fast and remains undefeated and sac state runs the table with a big matchup against UC Davis to end the year, this all looks a lot better with two losses to co champions with a win against an FBS team. The floor is looking a lot lower than it did at the start of the season.

I believe we control our own destiny. If the coaches can get the team to maintain their focus and address execution by the players and take a long hard look in the mirror and make some adjustments on their end we will be just fine. If we survive this weekend in that wooden aircraft hanger, start getting pieces back like Ostmo, and some gutsier play from Kris or Cam back to help grind down opposing defenses and sustain some drives to help take some pressure off the defense we will be alright. In the end it comes down to the fortitude of this team and frankly this fan base.

For all the complaining the pregame and game day music and involvement was better in the first half against sac state than at any point previously this season. The fans were consistently loud and supporting the defense and team. I can’t believe I’m seeing the same bs after one tough loss, one lackluster win and another tough loss of people reevaluating season tickets, cat-griz, blah blah blah. I would sure as hell rather be where we are now with injuries and a couple losses, an fbs win and #11 ranking (deserved or not) versus any stitt season minus maybe his first game. Are we back to dominance? Hell no, but the pieces are there and the bad luck will end at some point.

Look at FBS, and see the struggles that many teams are having with this extra year of eligibility. Big time programs are struggling when they usually dominate with younger talented rosters. A 5 star freshman BOY can’t overcome a 6th year conditioned and battle tested MAN. The field has more parody than ever. The same is true of every division right now. Would we have faced EB this year if not for Covid? Does that change our record. Would our offense be more cohesive with a full spring schedule under our belt like Eastern that is firing on all cylinders?
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Wolf777 said:
quality losses

There is no such thing as a quality loss.

As a fan I agree and would take any win over a any close loss. The topic here is playoff picture, and you can damn sure bet that the committee looks at, and compares losses when deciding seeding, and does indeed rate the wins and losses as quality or not. Do you believe they will look at a loss to EWU the same as they do a UC Davis loss to ISU if we were to have the same record at the end of the year? And as a fan you better cheer for those two opponents from the losses to win out and make those losses look better from a committee perspective.
 
Wolf777 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
There is no such thing as a quality loss.

As a fan I agree and would take any win over a any close loss. The topic here is playoff picture, and you can damn sure bet that the committee looks at, and compares losses when deciding seeding, and does indeed rate the wins and losses as quality or not. Do you believe they will look at a loss to EWU the same as they do a UC Davis loss to ISU if we were to have the same record at the end of the year? And as a fan you better cheer for those two opponents from the losses to win out and make those losses look better from a committee perspective.

There are quality wins and bad losses. There are no bad wins or quality losses. Strength of schedule is valid.
 
The FCS Playoff Selection Committee Chair/Rhode Island AD Bjorn says the committee voted not to release an in-season Top 10 ranking, which over time has dropped from three to one, per Athlon’s Haley.
https://twitter.com/CraigHaley/status/1450108664086466570?s=20
 
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