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Playoff Committee has Montana as the 5 seed in first poll.

Zoo_Cat said:
This is spot on. The ranking of UM and MSU doesn't really matter at this point. The more concerning part is where they have Tarleton in comparison to both. If I was a Griz fan, that would be of greater concern as it could block a home semifinal, if they keep Tarleton ahead of them even if the Griz win out.
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Tarleton won't make it to the semifinal round.
 
putter said:
That is what concerns me. Even to date Tarlton's opponents have a combined record of 9-32 and the records of their remaining opponents are 16-15 (Montana's is 12-19). Hard to believe the Army win (3-3) is holding that much weight. I can see them winning out and if they do, how is Montana going to pass them? They have an FBS win and we have 2 top 10 (at the time) FCS wins and they still see Montana's schedule that much weaker to be in the 5th spot. The committee would have to flip flop and prioritize Montana's SOS over theirs to move them up. If that is the case, why are the 3 now?
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If we beat the cats and go undefeated, we will pass them, it's just that simple. The only time ever that an undefeated Big Sky champion did not receive a top 2 seed was in 2007 when we went undefeated, but had a weaker schedule compared to two other power conference undefeated teams. They aren't going to move an undefeated team from a weaker conference ahead of the undefeated winner of the consensus 2nd strongest conference in FCS.
 
uofmman1122 said:
Holy Cross in 2022 was undefeated with an FBS win over 7-6 Buffalo, and after the season shook out, they only managed the #6 seed. The shine will likely come off Tarleton as the blue blood programs start getting solid wins down the stretch. We could end the season with two wins better than Tarleton's win at Army, and the committee is going to recognize that.
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Hope you're right. Disappointed the Committee currently has Tarleton placed as a #3. Thought it more likely they would be in the 6 to 10 range. As in your example, ultimately that may be where we find them.
 
mthoopsfan said:

FCS Playoff Committee Members​


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[td]Conf.[/td][td]Name[/td][td]School[/td][td]Term Expiration[/td]
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[td]Big Sky[/td][td]Leon Costello[/td][td]Montana State[/td][td]Aug-2028[/td]
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[td]CAA[/td][td]Mark Benson[/td][td]UAlbany[/td][td]Aug-2026[/td]
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[td]Ivy[/td][td]John Mack[/td][td]Princeton[/td][td]Aug-2029[/td]
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[td]MVFC[/td][td]Bill Chaves[/td][td]North Dakota[/td][td]Aug-2029[/td]
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[td]NEC[/td][td]Elliott Charles[/td][td]LIU[/td][td]Aug-2029[/td]
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[td]OVC-Big So[/td][td]Michael Allen[/td][td]Tennessee State[/td][td]Aug-2028[/td]
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[td]Patriot[/td][td]Kit Hughes[/td][td]Holy Cross[/td][td]Aug-2027[/td]
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[td]Pioneer[/td][td]Phil Esten[/td][td]St. Thomas[/td][td]Aug-2029[/td]
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Hard to read, but I gotta run now.
[td]SoCon[/td][td]**Mark Wharton[/td][td]Chattanooga[/td][td]Aug-2026[/td]
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[td]Southland[/td][td]Richard Duran[/td][td]UIW[/td][td]Aug-2029[/td]
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[td]UAC[/td][td]Josh Looney[/td][td]North Alabama[/td][td]Aug-2028[/td]
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I don’t know if you intended for your post to be comedic in nature, but it’s pretty hilarious.
 
Grizzlies1982 said:
Hope you're right. Disappointed the Committee currently has Tarleton placed as a #3. Thought it more likely they would be in the 6 to 10 range. As in your example, ultimately that may be where we find them.
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This is what I've been trying to say. They are #3 right now because their win over Army looks better in the committee's eyes than anything the other teams below them have done yet. If/when those other teams get better wins, they are going to jump them.
 
putter said:
That is what concerns me. Even to date Tarlton's opponents have a combined record of 9-32 and the records of their remaining opponents are 16-15 (Montana's is 12-19). Hard to believe the Army win (3-3) is holding that much weight. I can see them winning out and if they do, how is Montana going to pass them? They have an FBS win and we have 2 top 10 (at the time) FCS wins and they still see Montana's schedule that much weaker to be in the 5th spot. The committee would have to flip flop and prioritize Montana's SOS over theirs to move them up. If that is the case, why are the 3 now?
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Except we haven’t played the cats yet which will vault the winner over them and into the #2 or #3 spot as that game isn’t currently being taken into account.
 
wbtfg said:
Here's my prediction, assuming there aren't any unexpected upsets for any of the top 5 schools.

1. Whichever Dakota school wins out.
2. Whichever Montana school wins out.
3. Whichever Dakota School loses to #1
4. Tarleton
5. Whichever Montana School loses.
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A wiseman once said ^^^^^
 
uofmman1122 said:
As I said to your post on AGS, I think Tarleton has to keep blowing teams out in order to lock down the #2 seed. They hardly play another team with a pulse the rest of the year.

Montana, the cats, NDSU, SDSU, and even UND all have perfectly viable tracks to a top 2 seed even if Tarleton wins out, IMO. If Tarleton barely beats ACU or Austin Peay, they're going to take a big hit in credibility.
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At this point the committee is high on Tarleton because of the win over Army. The rest of their schedule is not that strong. It'll all come out in the wash We'll see who they really are in the following weeks. Lots of games to play for everyone, and the cream will rise to the too.
 
wbtfg said:
Here's my prediction, assuming there aren't any unexpected upsets for any of the top 5 schools.

1. Whichever Dakota school wins out.
2. Whichever Montana school wins out.
3. Whichever Dakota School loses to #1
4. Tarleton
5. Whichever Montana School loses.
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That looks pretty good. I'd hope the MT school that wins out would jump over Tarleton. Does UND have any chance of getting up there, without beating the other two? I assume not. And if they beat the other 2, one or both of them would drop. UND has a very tough schedule to finish the year. Can't imagine they could win out, and might lose at least 2.
 
mthoopsfan said:
That looks pretty good. I'd hope the MT school that wins out would jump over Tarleton. Does UND have any chance of getting up there, without beating the other two? I assume not. And if they beat the other 2, one or both of them would drop. UND has a very tough schedule to finish the year. Can't imagine they could win out, and might lose at least 2.
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My opinion is UND has the size and strength in the trenches to beat anyone but nothing is guaranteed. They have multiple 300 plus pound guys on the Oline and guys pushing 300 like 295 pound defensive tackles.
 
Wolf777 said:
Crazy thought. What if UND beats NDSU, SDSU beats UND and NDSU beats SDSU and Tarleton and the Griz win out?
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The Griz should be #1 after that who knows in this scenario. Should a 1 loss Missouri Valley team be ahead of undefeated Tarleton?
 
Does guaranteed income still play a factor in seeding? If so, I would think an undefeated Montana would be the pick for the #2 seed over Tarleton.
 
Tarleton State in 2025 reminds me a whole bunch of Sam Houston in 2021. Paper tiger vibes. Sam Houston ran the table in the Southland that consisted of many teams that currently reside in Tarleton's State's United Athletic Conference. Sam Houston got the #1 seed due to their 11-0 record, though the majority of people knew they would get trounced in the playoffs.

Montana State went to Huntsville in the Quarterfinals and absolutely demolished them 42-19.
 
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