Our Record Should Be Better Than It Is

[kemajic]

I just don't understand how so many will eagerly put the blame for losses to Cal Poly and Weber State on Stitt... Another big turnover during the weber game was the pick 6 that put Weber up by a touchdown before the half. That is completely an execution error, not a coachin error.

Decisions to not take two chip shot field goals in the Weber game are player execution errors, not coaching errors. I see now; I'm trying to catch up.

I still haven't figured out why player execution errors after nine games into the season have nothing to do with coaching. Possibly you can help me catch up with that one.

 

[bgbigdog]

I just don't understand how so many will eagerly put the blame for losses to Cal Poly and Weber State on Stitt... Another big turnover during the weber game was the pick 6 that put Weber up by a touchdown before the half. That is completely an execution error, not a coachin error.

Decisions to not take two chip shot field goals in the Weber game are player execution errors, not coaching errors. I see now; I'm trying to catch up.

CP, without a time out to use, pitched and ran to the sideline, over & over. Everyone watching knew that was going to happen. Force the ball to stay inbounds, even one play, and you don't have a makable field goal. Not Stitt's issue, that one was on Ty.

 

[kemajic]

Kramer would have lead his team to victory if he had just run the ball more. ISU was running at will on the Griz D. Why put the Frosh QB under all that pressure by throwing it so much? Bad move.....UM just had that game fall in their lap. Stitt was just a spectator in that affair.....

Agree, Finney could have run all over us more than he did. Our D is not great against the run with KVA; without him we are bad. They did us a favor when they threw the ball; but that's who they are. ISU was controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball late in the game and they did not fully exploit it.

 

[BWahlberg]

I just don't understand how so many will eagerly put the blame for losses to Cal Poly and Weber State on Stitt... Another big turnover during the weber game was the pick 6 that put Weber up by a touchdown before the half. That is completely an execution error, not a coachin error.

Decisions to not take two chip shot field goals in the Weber game are player execution errors, not coaching errors. I see now; I'm trying to catch up.

CP, without a time out to use, pitched and ran to the sideline, over & over. Everyone watching knew that was going to happen. Force the ball to stay inbounds, even one play, and you don't have a makable field goal. Not Stitt's issue, that one was on Ty.

Disagree on this 100%.

Force the ball inbounds and Brown runs wild, easily picks up first downs, stopping the clock for a quick spike and setting up a shorter attempt. Brown burned us bad the prior year and a few times in this game in the middle of the field. If we gave him the middle that game winner for Weber would be a chip shot.

Add in their kicker wasn't known to be a long distance guy, Ty played the odds. Unfortunately they didn't turn out in his favor.

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

The players are executing up to the level they are coached. Maybe that explains the red zone issues, the offense as a whole and why the defense is performing at a much higher level than the offense?

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

The players are executing at the level they are coached. Maybe that explains the red zone issues, the offense as a whole and why the defense is performing at a much higher level than the offense?

 

[Umista]

This is the year of the "coulda - woulda - shoulda" Griz.

All of us watched a few games we lost that in hind sight we should have won. If our record indicated two more wins it would have us all believe we are better than we are. The simple truth of this season's team is we are not a great football team. We are good but not great. Forget about Stitt or the team being at fault because all of them are in it together. To some extent even us fans can join in the blame (kidding) but we are not about to win the national championship this season. At this point if we win out and get in the play-offs we will have done excellent and that is all we can wish for. Win a play-off game? Way beyond my expectations but I'd take it!

 

[grzz]

The defense has a major over pursuit issue and have bouts of poor tackling. I am certain that Gregorak coaches both those things up in practice. Is it Stitts fault? Or is it possible that sometimes what is coached isn't executed perfectly?

 

[bgbigdog]

I just don't understand how so many will eagerly put the blame for losses to Cal Poly and Weber State on Stitt... Another big turnover during the weber game was the pick 6 that put Weber up by a touchdown before the half. That is completely an execution error, not a coachin error.

Decisions to not take two chip shot field goals in the Weber game are player execution errors, not coaching errors. I see now; I'm trying to catch up.

CP, without a time out to use, pitched and ran to the sideline, over & over. Everyone watching knew that was going to happen. Force the ball to stay inbounds, even one play, and you don't have a makable field goal. Not Stitt's issue, that one was on Ty.

Disagree on this 100%.

Force the ball inbounds and Brown runs wild, easily picks up first downs, stopping the clock for a quick spike and setting up a shorter attempt. Brown burned us bad the prior year and a few times in this game in the middle of the field. If we gave him the middle that game winner for Weber would be a chip shot.

Add in their kicker wasn't known to be a long distance guy, Ty played the odds. Unfortunately they didn't turn out in his favor.

Brown ran for sixty on one play, twenty-three other times for eighty, not once in the final drive. According to the game book, the drive started with 1:19 left. They ran 76 times, sell out to stop the run, make them beat you passing. Had they caught the running back once, in the three times he ran out of bounds or turned him back into the field, no field goal. Vega was their "long distance" kicker, Pyle had already hit from 48, so they knew how far they had to go to get into range. We'll just have to disagree. Because the only other explanation is Stitt being too cute on 4th down, when he could have tried another field goal. Perhaps he wasn't confident he could kick it that far.

 

[Umista]

The refs were at fault in every loss this season.

 

[AZGrizFan]

CP, without a time out to use, pitched and ran to the sideline, over & over. Everyone watching knew that was going to happen. Force the ball to stay inbounds, even one play, and you don't have a makable field goal. Not Stitt's issue, that one was on Ty.

Yeah, over and over. 3 out of 11 plays.

 

[grizindabox]

The players are executing at the level they are coached. Maybe that explains the red zone issues, the offense as a whole and why the defense is performing at a much higher level than the offense?

That is a pretty bold statement....and I would assume, I hope, is an inaccurate statement....

 

[griz5700]

Execution is discipline. Coaches instill discipline and accountability. Poor execution is a direct result of poor coaching.

Regardless of what the players are doing, it always come back to coaching. And rightfully so.

 

[84GRIZ]

Cal Poly game. Should have punted the dang ball on 4th down and 1:18 left when they only needed a field goal to win the game but had no time outs. Yes we were on the 32 yard line but again, they only needed field goal to win, if we punted that extra 12 to 25 yards would have been the difference. Especially based on the fact that Counts was out and he felt he had to use Gamboa as out short yardage back.

Then on top of it he called time out and for whatever reason kept them in the timeout way to long (ref started the play clock while the offense was standing on the sidelines) to the point where Gus thought the play clock was running out, panicked and snapped the ball early which messed up the whole play.

In the Weber game I did not have a problem with going for it on 4th down. My problem was that we were in short yardage on 3rd down both times (3rd and 2 yards to go both freekin times) and both times we threw the ball on both 3rd and 4th down with our 3rd string quarterback who had not taken 1st team reps that week. That was plain stupid.

 

[FCSwatcher]

Execution is discipline. Coaches instill discipline and accountability. Poor execution is a direct result of poor coaching.

Regardless of what the players are doing, it always come back to coaching. And rightfully so.

Exactly

 

[grizindabox]

Execution is discipline. Coaches instill discipline and accountability. Poor execution is a direct result of poor coaching.

Regardless of what the players are doing, it always come back to coaching. And rightfully so.

Exactly

you are probably right....no bad players, just bad coaches....

 

[PlayerRep]

If players execute well one week, and don't execute well the next week, that would not seem to be coaching.

 

[FCSwatcher]

If players execute well one week, and don't execute well the next week, that would not seem to be coaching.

Why not? Part of coaching is getting people "up" and ready for games, work, etc. as a General Sales Manager teaching people who to sell isn't the hard part. What is hard is the psychology of getting people to execute. If my team doesn't execute it is on me. If a coach/manager doesn't follow that belief it is time for a new coach.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Cal Poly game. Should have punted the dang ball on 4th down and 1:18 left when they only needed a field goal to win the game but had no time outs. Yes we were on the 32 yard line but again, they only needed field goal to win, if we punted that extra 12 to 25 yards would have been the difference. Especially based on the fact that Counts was out and he felt he had to use Gamboa as out short yardage back.

Then on top of it he called time out and for whatever reason kept them in the timeout way to long (ref started the play clock while the offense was standing on the sidelines) to the point where Gus thought the play clock was running out, panicked and snapped the ball early which messed up the whole play.

In the Weber game I did not have a problem with going for it on 4th down. My problem was that we were in short yardage on 3rd down both times (3rd and 2 yards to go both freekin times) and both times we threw the ball on both 3rd and 4th down with our 3rd string quarterback who had not taken 1st team reps that week. That was plain stupid.

I love this place. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bitch if we run. Bitch if we pass. Bitch if we punt. Bitch if we go for it. Bitch if we throw short. Bitch if we throw long. Bitch if we run outside. Bitch if we run inside. Bitch if we take the ball, bitch if we defer. Bitch if we win. Bitch if we lose.

 

[grizindabox]

If players execute well one week, and don't execute well the next week, that would not seem to be coaching.

Why not? Part of coaching is getting people "up" and ready for games, work, etc. as a General Sales Manager teaching people who to sell isn't the hard part. What is hard is the psychology of getting people to execute. If my team doesn't execute it is on me. If a coach/manager doesn't follow that belief it is time for a new coach.

So the player is 100% not a fault when it comes to failed execution? It is always the fault of coaching when a player fails to execute?