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Other Coaching Changes?

griz4life said:
I didn't realize Kelly had taken a coaching job at NIC. I'm not familiar with Griz Volleyball at all.
My guess is that Gregorak would still be unlikely to leave Montana this year, though. We'll see.

I agree with you on Gregorak, unless he got a great job opportunity. I suppose he could even be a future UM head coach candidate.
 
PlayerRep said:
griz4life said:
I didn't realize Kelly had taken a coaching job at NIC. I'm not familiar with Griz Volleyball at all.
My guess is that Gregorak would still be unlikely to leave Montana this year, though. We'll see.

I agree with you on Gregorak, unless he got a great job opportunity. I suppose he could even be a future UM head coach candidate.

Personally, I would love to see Gregorak get to that point, and am pulling for him to get there. After seeing, a colossal pass defense failure this year, he has a long way to prove himself as a DC 1st. I honestly want to know if it was his decision making or Delaney's to repeatedly play the softest shell zone defense in the history of Montana GRIZ football? Regardless, for Ty's and the team's sake, I hope they bag the passive, whimpy pass defense schemes, for the majority of the season.
 
tourist said:
The Griz started down this slippery slope the day O'Day hired Pflu, knowing he was hell bent on changing 20 years of unparalleled success, and molding the new Griz to his football philosophy. Posters cheered, stating, among other things, "bring it on Pflu!" Well, it's here, and I'd expect it to get a lot worse before, if ever, it gets better. Don't be surprised by ANYTHING that happens in the next nine months.

I think it really started the day we hired Hauck. Hauck is the one who changed the environment from scholar-athletes, Rhodes Scholars, Academic All-Americans, and a roster full of classy kids, to a hybrid of classy kids mixed with complete thugs. It changed the culture of the team. And it has not recovered to date.
 
Bear Pause said:
tourist said:
The Griz started down this slippery slope the day O'Day hired Pflu, knowing he was hell bent on changing 20 years of unparalleled success, and molding the new Griz to his football philosophy. Posters cheered, stating, among other things, "bring it on Pflu!" Well, it's here, and I'd expect it to get a lot worse before, if ever, it gets better. Don't be surprised by ANYTHING that happens in the next nine months.

I think it really started the day we hired Hauck. Hauck is the one who changed the environment from scholar-athletes, Rhodes Scholars, Academic All-Americans, and a roster full of classy kids, to a hybrid of classy kids mixed with complete thugs. It changed the culture of the team. And it has not recovered to date.
oh, it isn't that bad now, you can't take a few bad players and spoil the whole barrel. Talent or no, most of these young men are fine athletes and human beings.
 
Spanky said:
....some have asked if we will make the play-offs next year. If we don't have solid recruiting, we won't make the play-offs for several years.


if we have solid recruiting, and don't have solid coaching, we won't ever make the playoffs....
 
Bear Pause said:
tourist said:
The Griz started down this slippery slope the day O'Day hired Pflu, knowing he was hell bent on changing 20 years of unparalleled success, and molding the new Griz to his football philosophy. Posters cheered, stating, among other things, "bring it on Pflu!" Well, it's here, and I'd expect it to get a lot worse before, if ever, it gets better. Don't be surprised by ANYTHING that happens in the next nine months.

I think it really started the day we hired Hauck. Hauck is the one who changed the environment from scholar-athletes, Rhodes Scholars, Academic All-Americans, and a roster full of classy kids, to a hybrid of classy kids mixed with complete thugs. It changed the culture of the team. And it has not recovered to date.
exactly correct to Mr. Pause...exactly opposite of correct to the tourist....Dumbest post of the year.
 
kemajic said:
tourist said:
bigkid said:
tourist said:
expect it to get a lot worse before, if ever, it gets better.

Why? Do you know what the NCAA is going to report? I heard not much-but I don't know that. More coaches leaving? I really don't know that and neither do you. I know we have a bunch of great kids who will work hard every day and play they're guts out to succeed. I know that Washington Grizzly Stadium won't be empty. I say let the AD, coaches, and royce deal with the stuff and if in fact they choose to put the university in a position of failure then whatever... but I really don't expect that. :mrgreen:

Bigkid, this is not a personal attack, please bear with me.
I have no idea what, if anything, the NCAA will find. This never ending investigation, with guilt assumed by the NCAA and our administration, is what is killing the program. The current coaches have, at most, one year to find something else. The effects of this 'limbo' will be felt in recruiting, as has been posted by many. The current team busted some major ass in putting together a great game against the cats. One game out of eleven. WGS will not be empty, but a continuation of this years performance into next year will be felt at the gate, and in the bottom line at local businesses. It manifested itself this year in prolonged tailgating and early fourth quarter exits. I don't believe in letting the "AD, coaches, and royce" keep running this program into the ground if there is anything I can do to prevent it. At this point, the only thing I can possibly do is post here, e-mail those who can make a positive change, and urge others with some clout to DO SOMETHING!
I will not sit back and wring my hands and bemoan what is going on. I am trying to get the Griz Nation off its collective ass, to do whatever they can do to stop this disaster. I may be naïve, but at least I'm trying.
Rant over, stepping down off my soapbox.

There are three types of people in the world. Those who make things happen, whose who watch things happen, and those who say.........what happened?
There must be a fourth.......those that over-speculate what is happening.

And those who over-dramatize what is happening. :roll:
 
Bear Pause said:
tourist said:
The Griz started down this slippery slope the day O'Day hired Pflu, knowing he was hell bent on changing 20 years of unparalleled success, and molding the new Griz to his football philosophy. Posters cheered, stating, among other things, "bring it on Pflu!" Well, it's here, and I'd expect it to get a lot worse before, if ever, it gets better. Don't be surprised by ANYTHING that happens in the next nine months.

I think it really started the day we hired Hauck. Hauck is the one who changed the environment from scholar-athletes, Rhodes Scholars, Academic All-Americans, and a roster full of classy kids, to a hybrid of classy kids mixed with complete thugs. It changed the culture of the team. And it has not recovered to date.

I don't recall a Griz football player ever winning a Rhodes Scholarship. Not even a Randy Rhoads sholarship. Ever.
I sure wasn't a Hauck fan. A few of his players committed serious offenses and the "let the courts decide" policy sure set the bar low for discipline. That said, I've been around long enough to know Bobby Hauck didn't change the environment at UM.
Remember Vernon Smith? Pleaded guilty to threatening the Missoula citizenry with guns as he rode down the street in a car driven by JR Waller? JR and Vernon were both Joe Glenn recruits.
Remember Johnny Peeples Jr., who got popped with 11 grams of coke in Missoula two years after playing for Glenn.
Remember Quinn Faino, the Glenn recruit who got busted along with a Bobcat player with a big, big, big bag of dope outside of Superior Greyhound bus stop?
Remember Joe Bonamarte, a Glenn recruit who punched out a male cheer leader in a downtown bar?
Remember Maxime Pierre, a Mick Dennehey recruit convicted of raping a co-ed?
Remember when Sean Davis and Ben Drinkwalter, Dennehey recruits who got busted with a boatload of LSD in North Dakota or Eastern Montana, I don't remember which.

Believe, me I could go on all the way back to beloved Don Read. But I won't.
 
Thank you, griz4life. Some people haven't been around Griz football long enough to have any perspective at all. And, you're right, it would be easy to go back to Papa Bear's time (and probably before that), and list players who have "legal troubles." That's simply a fact that all too many folks want to ignore.
 
II don't recall a Griz football player ever winning a Rhodes Scholarship. Not even a Randy Rhoads sholarship. Ever.[/quote]

Yeah, but Cory Proctor played drums in a metal band, which must count for something.
 
mtgrizrule said:
PlayerRep said:
griz4life said:
I didn't realize Kelly had taken a coaching job at NIC. I'm not familiar with Griz Volleyball at all.
My guess is that Gregorak would still be unlikely to leave Montana this year, though. We'll see.

I agree with you on Gregorak, unless he got a great job opportunity. I suppose he could even be a future UM head coach candidate.

Personally, I would love to see Gregorak get to that point, and am pulling for him to get there. After seeing, a colossal pass defense failure this year, he has a long way to prove himself as a DC 1st. I honestly want to know if it was his decision making or Delaney's to repeatedly play the softest shell zone defense in the history of Montana GRIZ football? Regardless, for Ty's and the team's sake, I hope they bag the passive, whimpy pass defense schemes, for the majority of the season.[/quote

Coach Ty was a LB his whole life, he then was handed the reins to the DEFENSIVE of a that has been a power house for years. Montana Football. He accepted repsonsibilty lookng at the whole picture, but didn't realize that the whole enchalada was on his plate. He adjusted well throughout the season. I would like to think,in his review this short off season, the tapes, games, mental conversation, and intestinal fortitude, he will take in the whole picture of DEFENSE. Now that he knows his DBs can play man to man/cover press, he will institute a corner blitz in this PASS HAPPY CONFERENCE. If you have ever been a first timer in a job, you know what it's like when you don't know how to drive around alot of those streets. So good luck to coach Ty I do believe he gets it and we as Griz fans shall see!!
 
goatcreekgriz said:
II don't recall a Griz football player ever winning a Rhodes Scholarship. Not even a Randy Rhoads sholarship. Ever.

Yeah, but Cory Proctor played drums in a metal band, which must count for something.[/quote]


This year I felt like the Griz were on a "Crazy Train". :cry: :cry:
 
Pounder29 said:
mtgrizrule said:
PlayerRep said:
griz4life said:
I didn't realize Kelly had taken a coaching job at NIC. I'm not familiar with Griz Volleyball at all.
My guess is that Gregorak would still be unlikely to leave Montana this year, though. We'll see.

I agree with you on Gregorak, unless he got a great job opportunity. I suppose he could even be a future UM head coach candidate.

Personally, I would love to see Gregorak get to that point, and am pulling for him to get there. After seeing, a colossal pass defense failure this year, he has a long way to prove himself as a DC 1st. I honestly want to know if it was his decision making or Delaney's to repeatedly play the softest shell zone defense in the history of Montana GRIZ football? Regardless, for Ty's and the team's sake, I hope they bag the passive, whimpy pass defense schemes, for the majority of the season.[/quote

Coach Ty was a LB his whole life, he then was handed the reins to the DEFENSIVE of a that has been a power house for years. Montana Football. He accepted repsonsibilty lookng at the whole picture, but didn't realize that the whole enchalada was on his plate. He adjusted well throughout the season. I would like to think,in his review this short off season, the tapes, games, mental conversation, and intestinal fortitude, he will take in the whole picture of DEFENSE. Now that he knows his DBs can play man to man/cover press, he will institute a corner blitz in this PASS HAPPY CONFERENCE. If you have ever been a first timer in a job, you know what it's like when you don't know how to drive around alot of those streets. So good luck to coach Ty I do believe he gets it and we as Griz fans shall see!!

He had better be a quick learner, because he will not be around longer than one more season when the new head coach is named.
 
Gaeilge1 said:
I've said it previously on other threads. I think Delaney may yet decide to retire, and the Special Teams Coach has to be replaced.


Oh! so there was a special teams coach, where the f@&k was he or she what ever the case may be.
 
griz4life said:
I'm no stenographer, but I take Rosenbach at his word, too. He said Weber is headed in the right direction and there is a comitment to the program. His words.
Griz fans seem to bristle at the suggestion that Weber could be more attractive than UM, but the two schools are in similar situations having abruptly lost head coaches and been handed over to interim coaches, both of whom are sticking around. If Rosenbach says direction and commitment were what appealed to him at Weber, I believe him. He doesn't have to run down Delaney or UM.
The similarities end there. UM puts 25 M butts in the seats; Weber about 7 M. Job security and his reading the tea leaves that he would not be a candidate for the pending HC job are good enough reasons. Not because Weber is ever going to be a football school.
 
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