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[catsack]

the griz have already had four scoreless second halves this season. as far as i can tell, they only had three in the last three years, including second halves against washington and ndsu, the latter in the playoffs. i'm a little hard pressed to blame that on the players, as you would think any coach worth his salt could be creative enough to score once or twice a half with his personnel, even if that means using a gimmicky play or two.

are multiple scoreless halves, especially when it isn't a blow-out win, the sign of bad coaching?

It’s two scoreless first halves and two scoreless second halves !

 

[Fahque]

no

Maybe

Perhaps

Sometimes

Only if Stitt is the coach

 

[Fahque]

the griz have already had four scoreless second halves this season. as far as i can tell, they only had three in the last three years, including second halves against washington and ndsu, the latter in the playoffs. i'm a little hard pressed to blame that on the players, as you would think any coach worth his salt could be creative enough to score once or twice a half with his personnel, even if that means using a gimmicky play or two.

are multiple scoreless halves, especially when it isn't a blow-out win, the sign of bad coaching?

It’s two scoreless first halves and two scoreless second halves !

So are we worse in the first half or the second half?

 

[catsack]

the griz have already had four scoreless second halves this season. as far as i can tell, they only had three in the last three years, including second halves against washington and ndsu, the latter in the playoffs. i'm a little hard pressed to blame that on the players, as you would think any coach worth his salt could be creative enough to score once or twice a half with his personnel, even if that means using a gimmicky play or two.

are multiple scoreless halves, especially when it isn't a blow-out win, the sign of bad coaching?

It’s two scoreless first halves and two scoreless second halves !

So are we worse in the first half or the second half?

Well we’re 0-2 in first halves

 

[cclarkblues]

the griz have already had four scoreless second halves this season. as far as i can tell, they only had three in the last three years, including second halves against washington and ndsu, the latter in the playoffs. i'm a little hard pressed to blame that on the players, as you would think any coach worth his salt could be creative enough to score once or twice a half with his personnel, even if that means using a gimmicky play or two.

are multiple scoreless halves, especially when it isn't a blow-out win, the sign of bad coaching?

It’s two scoreless first halves and two scoreless second halves !

So are we worse in the first half or the second half?

Maybe

 

[GGNez]

the griz have already had four scoreless second halves this season. as far as i can tell, they only had three in the last three years, including second halves against washington and ndsu, the latter in the playoffs. i'm a little hard pressed to blame that on the players, as you would think any coach worth his salt could be creative enough to score once or twice a half with his personnel, even if that means using a gimmicky play or two.

are multiple scoreless halves, especially when it isn't a blow-out win, the sign of bad coaching?

It’s two scoreless first halves and two scoreless second halves !

So are we worse in the first half or the second half?

Maybe

Yes

 

[argh!]

sorry, i subtracted two first half scoreless outputs, and added them to the scoreless second half. but my point remains.

-greenie, argh's new lawyer and spokesperson

 

[kemajic]

It's been a work in progress dialing in that 2 quarters was the magic number...and they have tried the strategy at the beginning of the game and at halftime...but in the end 2 quarters is it.

If the magic number is 2 at normal elevation, I wonder what it will be at 5846' this weekend.

 

[kemajic]

sorry, i subtracted two first half scoreless outputs, and added them to the scoreless second half. but my point remains.

And what is that point?

 

[grizindabox]

Here I thought this was about MrTitleist

He only dates wholes.

scoreless wholes

 

[PlayerRep]

Does NDSU adjust to what other teams are giving them? If so, I didn't know that.

 

[grizindabox]

Does NDSU adjust to what other teams are giving them? If so, I didn't know that.

When you have the best talent, you do what you want.

 

[IdahoGrizFan]

Maybe

Perhaps

Sometimes

Only if Stitt is the coach

Ahhh, you ruined it! You were only allowed one word.

 

[Fahque]

Perhaps

Sometimes

Only if Stitt is the coach

Ahhh, you ruined it! You were only allowed one word.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Does NDSU adjust to what other teams are giving them? If so, I didn't know that.

When you have the best talent, you do what you want.

Right up until you don't have the best talent, then when you don't have the capability to make adjustments you get exposed (ala Richmond in '08 and Villanova in '09). I suggest they (Griz coaches) develop the ability to adjust to what other teams are giving them or to the adjustments other teams make.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

the griz have already had four scoreless second halves this season. as far as i can tell, they only had three in the last three years, including second halves against washington and ndsu, the latter in the playoffs. i'm a little hard pressed to blame that on the players, as you would think any coach worth his salt could be creative enough to score once or twice a half with his personnel, even if that means using a gimmicky play or two.

are multiple scoreless halves, especially when it isn't a blow-out win, the sign of bad coaching?

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but how do you explain scoring lots in a first half and then not scoring in the second half? Can you point to anything the coaches did or didn't do, or must have done or not done, that would explain the lack of production in the second half?

The fumble and picks probably caused some of this in the second half of last game.

Note that the receivers generally caught the ball and UM didn't have many penalties. The receivers didn't fumble the ball. All good.

I thought Davis' kicker and punter were terrific, and really took away UM's good return games, with their long and high kicks. That hurt the Griz. Couldn't get yardage. Couldn't generate excitement and momentum.

I tend to wonder about coaching more when games starts bad, and then doesn't improve in the second half.

many factors go into a team not scoring in a half, after putting up points in the first half. luck is one, but probably not a big one.

i'm surprised the griz have had all these scoreless halves, given some of the talent, i.e. jlm, curran, at wide receiver. could part of the problem be that sneed doesn't throw an accurate long ball? you don't seem to think that he doesn't, but i'm not sure.

First, I don't necessarily agree that Sneed doesn't throw a decent long ball. Second, I don't think the long ball has anything to do with the lack of scoring at times. It's not picking up enough thirds down, and, in some games, turnovers.

I dont think Sneed has near enough time to throw the long ball. I think this O lines deficiencies take away a ton of what Bobby likes his teams to do, which is pound the rock, and also the types of plays we can run as far as WR routes. Everything needs to be quick right now.

I have faith that in the next few years our O liens will get back to being dominant, but its just not going to happen this year.

I have a hard time blaming coaches for much because I've seen such a drastic turnaround in effort, consistency, urgency, and for the most part fundamentals from this years team. If any, I think were not able to close out 2nd halves like this staff wants, because we dont have the guys these coaches want. Remember teams of Griz past, in 2nd halves man we would just lean on you and push you around at the line and just grind out 7-10 yard runs. We dont have that personnel currently.

 

[argh!]

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but how do you explain scoring lots in a first half and then not scoring in the second half? Can you point to anything the coaches did or didn't do, or must have done or not done, that would explain the lack of production in the second half?

The fumble and picks probably caused some of this in the second half of last game.

Note that the receivers generally caught the ball and UM didn't have many penalties. The receivers didn't fumble the ball. All good.

I thought Davis' kicker and punter were terrific, and really took away UM's good return games, with their long and high kicks. That hurt the Griz. Couldn't get yardage. Couldn't generate excitement and momentum.

I tend to wonder about coaching more when games starts bad, and then doesn't improve in the second half.

many factors go into a team not scoring in a half, after putting up points in the first half. luck is one, but probably not a big one.

i'm surprised the griz have had all these scoreless halves, given some of the talent, i.e. jlm, curran, at wide receiver. could part of the problem be that sneed doesn't throw an accurate long ball? you don't seem to think that he doesn't, but i'm not sure.

First, I don't necessarily agree that Sneed doesn't throw a decent long ball. Second, I don't think the long ball has anything to do with the lack of scoring at times. It's not picking up enough thirds down, and, in some games, turnovers.

I dont think Sneed has near enough time to throw the long ball. I think this O lines deficiencies take away a ton of what Bobby likes his teams to do, which is pound the rock, and also the types of plays we can run as far as WR routes. Everything needs to be quick right now.

I have faith that in the next few years our O liens will get back to being dominant, but its just not going to happen this year.

I have a hard time blaming coaches for much because I've seen such a drastic turnaround in effort, consistency, urgency, and for the most part fundamentals from this years team. If any, I think were not able to close out 2nd halves like this staff wants, because we dont have the guys these coaches want. Remember teams of Griz past, in 2nd halves man we would just lean on you and push you around at the line and just grind out 7-10 yard runs. We dont have that personnel currently.

turnaround in effort and consistency? you mean, like consistently lacking effort for entire halves?

 

[grizindabox]

Does NDSU adjust to what other teams are giving them? If so, I didn't know that.

When you have the best talent, you do what you want.

Right up until you don't have the best talent, then when you don't have the capability to make adjustments you get exposed (ala Richmond in '08 and Villanova in '09). I suggest they (Griz coaches) develop the ability to adjust to what other teams are giving them or to the adjustments other teams make.

True, but I think this Griz team lacks the athletes at some positions to make some adjustments. Take a look at the second half again.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Does NDSU adjust to what other teams are giving them? If so, I didn't know that.

When you have the best talent, you do what you want.

Right up until you don't have the best talent, then when you don't have the capability to make adjustments you get exposed (ala Richmond in '08 and Villanova in '09). I suggest they (Griz coaches) develop the ability to adjust to what other teams are giving them or to the adjustments other teams make.

True, but I think this Griz team lacks the athletes at some positions to make some adjustments. Take a look at the second half again.

Bobby has NEVER been an 'adjustments' guy. It was what he got flamesprayed on here regularly for his first go round.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

many factors go into a team not scoring in a half, after putting up points in the first half. luck is one, but probably not a big one.

i'm surprised the griz have had all these scoreless halves, given some of the talent, i.e. jlm, curran, at wide receiver. could part of the problem be that sneed doesn't throw an accurate long ball? you don't seem to think that he doesn't, but i'm not sure.

First, I don't necessarily agree that Sneed doesn't throw a decent long ball. Second, I don't think the long ball has anything to do with the lack of scoring at times. It's not picking up enough thirds down, and, in some games, turnovers.

I dont think Sneed has near enough time to throw the long ball. I think this O lines deficiencies take away a ton of what Bobby likes his teams to do, which is pound the rock, and also the types of plays we can run as far as WR routes. Everything needs to be quick right now.

I have faith that in the next few years our O liens will get back to being dominant, but its just not going to happen this year.

I have a hard time blaming coaches for much because I've seen such a drastic turnaround in effort, consistency, urgency, and for the most part fundamentals from this years team. If any, I think were not able to close out 2nd halves like this staff wants, because we dont have the guys these coaches want. Remember teams of Griz past, in 2nd halves man we would just lean on you and push you around at the line and just grind out 7-10 yard runs. We dont have that personnel currently.

turnaround in effort and consistency? you mean, like consistently lacking effort for entire halves?

No I actually mean the opposite, as in the opposite team demeanor of the lackadaisical Stitt teams.