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ONLY in the bsc...

Dutch Lane said:
You have made that clear. So in your mind it would be better to have open dates and less games then the status quo? I like more games regardless if you play a conference team twice. If they counted them all as conference games then I believe the open dates would stay open which means less games, less revenue etc., so in your opinion that would be more better? Lol

What open date? Ewoo plays 12 just like all the rest. It’s just that they played one conference game that doesn’t count, and one non-conference game that does.

Tell me where the fuck that makes ANY sense except the bsc

#bsc.
 
EverettGriz said:
Dutch Lane said:
You have made that clear. So in your mind it would be better to have open dates and less games then the status quo? I like more games regardless if you play a conference team twice. If they counted them all as conference games then I believe the open dates would stay open which means less games, less revenue etc., so in your opinion that would be more better? Lol

What open date? Ewoo plays 12 just like all the rest. It’s just that they played one conference game that doesn’t count, and one non-conference game that does.

Tell me where the f*** that makes ANY sense except the bsc

#bsc.
I think you are being nonsensical. They both had open dates so Ewu and Idaho chose to play each other twice to fill the open date, right? The Bsc settled on how they would handle this prior to the season by not counting this game in conference standings so that schools would partake, right? Otherwise if they counted it then either Idaho or ewu wouldn’t play it and thus leave them both without a game. My question to both CDA and you is would that then be a better outcome, and why. Just spit balling some more.
 
I don't like ewu playing Idaho because one team has to win. I'd prefer they both lose every friggin game in perpituity.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Ursa Major said:
Silenoz said:
Isn't EWU-Idaho a "protected rivalry?" How does that fall out of the conference schedule?
That's what I was thinking too but Idaho's has to be Idaho State and Montana. Ewu has Portland State and ?.

EWU-Idaho is protected, beginning next season.

Big Sky Football Rivals (2020-23)

Cal Poly – Sacramento State, UC Davis
Eastern Washington – Idaho, Portland State
Idaho – Eastern Washington, Montana
Idaho State – Portland State, Weber State
Montana – Idaho, Montana State
Montana State – Montana, Northern Colorado
Northern Arizona – Northern Colorado, Southern Utah
Northern Colorado – Montana State, Northern Arizona
Portland State – Eastern Washington, Idaho State
Sacramento State – Cal Poly, UC Davis
Southern Utah – Northern Arizona, Weber State
UC Davis – Cal Poly, Sacramento State
Weber State – Idaho State, Southern Utah


Are there "protected rivals" for this season in the BSC? Is it listed somewhere?

Eastern Washington – Montana, Portland State
Idaho – NA
Montana – Eastern Washington, Montana State
Montana State – Montana, North Dakota
Northern Colorado – North Dakota, Northern Arizona
North Dakota - Montana State, Norther Colorado

These are from memory and are rivals before Idaho joined the BSC, they reshuffled them a bit during the Idaho transition (um didn't play EWU last year, both played Idaho) so last year and this year is kind of a year by year deal.
 
Dutch Lane said:
I like more games regardless if you play a conference team twice.
EWU and Idaho are not playing twice. I don't recall a case where two BSC teams playing each other in an OOC game also played each other in a conf. game. Whether that would be allowed by this stupid conf., I don't know.
 
Dutch Lane said:
EverettGriz said:
Dutch Lane said:
You have made that clear. So in your mind it would be better to have open dates and less games then the status quo? I like more games regardless if you play a conference team twice. If they counted them all as conference games then I believe the open dates would stay open which means less games, less revenue etc., so in your opinion that would be more better? Lol

What open date? Ewoo plays 12 just like all the rest. It’s just that they played one conference game that doesn’t count, and one non-conference game that does.

Tell me where the f*** that makes ANY sense except the bsc

#bsc.
I think you are being nonsensical. They both had open dates so Ewu and Idaho chose to play each other twice to fill the open date, right? The Bsc settled on how they would handle this prior to the season by not counting this game in conference standings so that schools would partake, right? Otherwise if they counted it then either Idaho or ewu wouldn’t play it and thus leave them both without a game. My question to both CDA and you is would that then be a better outcome, and why. Just spit balling some more.

Uhhhh, no. That's not right. ewoooo and idawho are not playing each other twice. They, as conference members, played each other once as a noncon game. This week ewoooo plays nodak, a team who hasn't been in the conference for years, as a conference game.

Yes, I get that scheduling is tough so teams take the lazy way out and schedule other teams from their conference, although I think it's ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed. But that isn't the point here.

So yes, "nonsensical" is nice word to describe the bsc, although I generally prefer a few more...uhhh...descriptive terms.

#bsc.
 
Dutch Lane said:
EverettGriz said:
Dutch Lane said:
You have made that clear. So in your mind it would be better to have open dates and less games then the status quo? I like more games regardless if you play a conference team twice. If they counted them all as conference games then I believe the open dates would stay open which means less games, less revenue etc., so in your opinion that would be more better? Lol

What open date? Ewoo plays 12 just like all the rest. It’s just that they played one conference game that doesn’t count, and one non-conference game that does.

Tell me where the f*** that makes ANY sense except the bsc

#bsc.
I think you are being nonsensical. They both had open dates so Ewu and Idaho chose to play each other twice to fill the open date, right? The Bsc settled on how they would handle this prior to the season by not counting this game in conference standings so that schools would partake, right? Otherwise if they counted it then either Idaho or ewu wouldn’t play it and thus leave them both without a game. My question to both CDA and you is would that then be a better outcome, and why. Just spit balling some more.

I'll do my best to explain. So, in my view, the game against the team that is in the Big Sky Conference should count as a Big Sky Conference game, but (and stay with me here, because this is the tough part) the game against the team that is NOT in the Big Sky Conference team should not count as a Big Sky Conference game.

How the BSC "settled" on how they would "handle" this prior to the season is pretty much the point. Hope this helps.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
Sometimes, I want the entire BSC scheduling/alignment debacle to blow up in the BSC's face with a completely illogical result. Can someone smarter than me draw up such a hypothetical so I can root for it if the Griz are out of contention?

Its gonna take something really crazy to get enough attention for the BSC to make a change. Imagine if a team like Southern Utah won the conference because of a scheduling anomaly?
 
Jaredkuehn said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Sometimes, I want the entire BSC scheduling/alignment debacle to blow up in the BSC's face with a completely illogical result. Can someone smarter than me draw up such a hypothetical so I can root for it if the Griz are out of contention?

Its gonna something really crazy to get enough attention for the BSC to make a change. Imagine if a team like Southern Utah won the conference because of a scheduling anomaly?

:lol:
 
EverettGriz said:
Jaredkuehn said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Sometimes, I want the entire BSC scheduling/alignment debacle to blow up in the BSC's face with a completely illogical result. Can someone smarter than me draw up such a hypothetical so I can root for it if the Griz are out of contention?

Its gonna something really crazy to get enough attention for the BSC to make a change. Imagine if a team like Southern Utah won the conference because of a scheduling anomaly?

:lol:

:lol: Get real, that would never happen!
 
IdaGriz01 said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Is UCD a conference game? Honest question.
Yes. Marked as such on the GoGriz.com football schedule page.

Thanks. I saw that, but wasn't sure. Oregon wasn't a conference game, right? Though Oregon was a former conference foe, I hope the loss doesn't count against us.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
Sometimes, I want the entire BSC scheduling/alignment debacle to blow up in the BSC's face with a completely illogical result. Can someone smarter than me draw up such a hypothetical so I can root for it if the Griz are out of contention?

Well, the Cats winning the conference ever again would be a "completely illogical result!" :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
EverettGriz said:
Dutch Lane said:
EverettGriz said:
Dutch Lane said:
You have made that clear. So in your mind it would be better to have open dates and less games then the status quo? I like more games regardless if you play a conference team twice. If they counted them all as conference games then I believe the open dates would stay open which means less games, less revenue etc., so in your opinion that would be more better? Lol

What open date? Ewoo plays 12 just like all the rest. It’s just that they played one conference game that doesn’t count, and one non-conference game that does.

Tell me where the f*** that makes ANY sense except the bsc

#bsc.
I think you are being nonsensical. They both had open dates so Ewu and Idaho chose to play each other twice to fill the open date, right? The Bsc settled on how they would handle this prior to the season by not counting this game in conference standings so that schools would partake, right? Otherwise if they counted it then either Idaho or ewu wouldn’t play it and thus leave them both without a game. My question to both CDA and you is would that then be a better outcome, and why. Just spit balling some more.

Uhhhh, no. That's not right. ewoooo and idawho are not playing each other twice. They, as conference members, played each other once as a noncon game. This week ewoooo plays nodak, a team who hasn't been in the conference for years, as a conference game.

Yes, I get that scheduling is tough so teams take the lazy way out and schedule other teams from their conference, although I think it's ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed. But that isn't the point here.

So yes, "nonsensical" is nice word to describe the bsc, although I generally prefer a few more...uhhh...descriptive terms.

#bsc.


I would rather play a non conference game against a fellow Big Sky team than bring in some pasty from the Big South, NEC, Pioneer, MEAC or SWAC conference that's gonna do absolutely nothing for my playoff resume
 
WILDCATFAN said:
EverettGriz said:
Dutch Lane said:
EverettGriz said:
What open date? Ewoo plays 12 just like all the rest. It’s just that they played one conference game that doesn’t count, and one non-conference game that does.

Tell me where the f*** that makes ANY sense except the bsc

#bsc.
I think you are being nonsensical. They both had open dates so Ewu and Idaho chose to play each other twice to fill the open date, right? The Bsc settled on how they would handle this prior to the season by not counting this game in conference standings so that schools would partake, right? Otherwise if they counted it then either Idaho or ewu wouldn’t play it and thus leave them both without a game. My question to both CDA and you is would that then be a better outcome, and why. Just spit balling some more.

Uhhhh, no. That's not right. ewoooo and idawho are not playing each other twice. They, as conference members, played each other once as a noncon game. This week ewoooo plays nodak, a team who hasn't been in the conference for years, as a conference game.

Yes, I get that scheduling is tough so teams take the lazy way out and schedule other teams from their conference, although I think it's ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed. But that isn't the point here.

So yes, "nonsensical" is nice word to describe the bsc, although I generally prefer a few more...uhhh...descriptive terms.

#bsc.


I would rather play a non conference game against a fellow Big Sky team than bring in some pasty from the Big South, NEC, Pioneer, MEAC or SWAC conference that's gonna do absolutely nothing for my playoff resume


Playing Youngstown, New Hampshire, FAMU, Kennesaw State, APB, etc wouldn't help a playoff resume?

Again, I understand why the games are scheduled, although I argue it has FAR more to do with cost savings and laziness than it does building a resume. I just think it's ridiculous, and you certainly don't see any other legit conference in America do it.

#bsc.
 
WILDCATFAN said:
I would rather play a non conference game against a fellow Big Sky team than bring in some pasty from the Big South, NEC, Pioneer, MEAC or SWAC conference that's gonna do absolutely nothing for my playoff resume

Just for a shitz-n-gigglez comparison, but I doubt a OOC win against Idaho St improves a resume anymore than a win over Monmouth or San Diego or about any team from any of those conferences you named.
 
grizindabox said:
WILDCATFAN said:
I would rather play a non conference game against a fellow Big Sky team than bring in some pasty from the Big South, NEC, Pioneer, MEAC or SWAC conference that's gonna do absolutely nothing for my playoff resume

Just for a shitz-n-gigglez comparison, but I doubt a OOC win against Idaho St improves a resume anymore than a win over Monmouth or San Diego or about any team from any of those conferences you named.


No but a win over a team like Eastern Washington like Idaho got will.
 
EverettGriz said:
WILDCATFAN said:
EverettGriz said:
Dutch Lane said:
I think you are being nonsensical. They both had open dates so Ewu and Idaho chose to play each other twice to fill the open date, right? The Bsc settled on how they would handle this prior to the season by not counting this game in conference standings so that schools would partake, right? Otherwise if they counted it then either Idaho or ewu wouldn’t play it and thus leave them both without a game. My question to both CDA and you is would that then be a better outcome, and why. Just spit balling some more.

Uhhhh, no. That's not right. ewoooo and idawho are not playing each other twice. They, as conference members, played each other once as a noncon game. This week ewoooo plays nodak, a team who hasn't been in the conference for years, as a conference game.

Yes, I get that scheduling is tough so teams take the lazy way out and schedule other teams from their conference, although I think it's ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed. But that isn't the point here.

So yes, "nonsensical" is nice word to describe the bsc, although I generally prefer a few more...uhhh...descriptive terms.

#bsc.


I would rather play a non conference game against a fellow Big Sky team than bring in some pasty from the Big South, NEC, Pioneer, MEAC or SWAC conference that's gonna do absolutely nothing for my playoff resume


Playing Youngstown, New Hampshire, FAMU, Kennesaw State, APB, etc wouldn't help a playoff resume?

Again, I understand why the games are scheduled, although I argue it has FAR more to do with cost savings and laziness than it does building a resume. I just think it's ridiculous, and you certainly don't see any other legit conference in America do it.

#bsc.


Well not every team in the Big Sky can pay to bring pasties from across the country to play them for a guarantee game. So they schedule h&h's against Big Sky teams they dont play that year. It's cheaper and far more reasonable for travel. So i wouldn't call it lazy, I'd call it being economically smart. And as long as the NCAA allows it who the literal F cares?
 
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