"Old" Dornblaser

[stilwtrgrizz]

I came there in the fall of '64 and spent a lot of time on Dornblaser and the practice fields ...

As an aside, when I am teaching or writing about the "philosophy of sports," I usually mention the old story about Lord Wellington, answering questions about the Battle of Waterloo, and how it changed the world, that "the Battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton."

The "playing fields" were where young men learned to play on teams, learned how to cooperate, learned how to take orders and to give them, learned how to assess risks, and learned how to be fighters and how to be leaders. So it is in sports today.

So it has always been at the University of Montana.

For those reasons, I have a reverence for the name "Dornblaser," the young man that died, and as it still exists after nearly a century at the University of Montana.

Wondefully put 75. :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[ordigger]

From the Montana Memory Project

http://www.lib.umt.edu/asc/photos/

http://mtmemory.org/cdm/search/coll...laser/field/all/mode/all/conn/and/order/title

People stand and sit on the hill above the field. A good view of the back of the new University Center. The 11-story building in the center of the photo is the newly-built Aber Hall, a residence hall. 'Hillside Club' on the last day.

The 'Hillside Club' above Dornblaser Field on the University of Montana campus. Cars are parked along the road, and people sit in bleachers watching a football game against Idaho State. 'Hillside Club' on its last day. Schreiber Gym, built in 1921, can be seen on the left side of the photo. Mansfield Library, a parking lot, and a parking garage now occupy the space covered by the field.

The marching band is on the field. Spectators sit in the bleachers and grandstand. The photograph is taken looking from Mount Sentinel at the University of Montana, Missoula. 'Hillside Club' on the last day.

The band is on the field. People sit in the bleachers, and a few people can be seen on the hill above Dornblaser Field on the University of Montana campus, Missoula. The University Center is under construction. 'Hillside Club' on the last day.

 

[ordigger]

Think this is the "white building" being talked about in this thread. NOTE last photo description...VARSITY vs BOZEMAN lol

This is circa 1914, so I think it is the earlier version on Dornblaser which further north?

Description University of Montana football game at Dornblaser Field. Shows Main Hall and grandstand.

Dornblaser is corner.

Description Oblique-angle image of University of Montana, Missoula, campus from southeast. The Men's Gym, Forestry, Journalism, and Chemistry Pharmacy buildings are in the foreground. Cook Hall and Simkins Hall are also in the picture. A corner of Dornblaser Field is visible.

Football game and crowd (Varsity vs. Bozeman) on the University of Montana campus, Missoula. The field on which the game was being played was named Dornblaser Field in 1920 in honor of Paul Dornblaser, a University of Montana football player (1910-1913) and graduate, who was killed in France in 1918 during World War I.

 

[ordigger]

Build it, and they will come. The original tailgating.

Athletic Field from Mount Sentinel, football game against Bozeman, cars lined up around the playing field. University of Montana, Missoula. Circa 1915

Decked out in Griz Gear 1908

University of Montana, crowd at football game. Photograph shows six men and two children seated on a bench. Bleachers full of people are visible in the background. Handwritten on the photograph are names and caption: Watching football, 1908. Fred Greenwood, Joe Farrell, Dr. Dodds, Miss Dodds, Harry Harkins, Dr. W. D. Harkins, Dr. W. F. Book, King Garlington.

University of Montana football game. Missoula, Montana. Photograph shows players on the field. Cars can be seen parked along the field. Mount Sentinel rises in the background. Snow can be seen upslope on Mount Sentinel and in the distance on Mount Jumbo.

 

[stilwtrgrizz]

Fantastic pics, thank you so much for taking the time to post them.

 

[ordigger]

Date unknown for this photo but what I find interesting is you can see the original Grandstand in the background, and where the original field was before they moved it south.

Football game on campus. University of Montana, Missoula. Looking down from Mount Sentinel. A large number of fans can be seen watching the game. Higgins Avenue bridge and downtown Missoula partially visible in the background.


There is so much more to see, try different search words. Here is the link if you put in football. Nice old photos of players from yesteryear.

http://mtmemory.org/cdm/search/coll...tball/field/all/mode/all/conn/and/order/title

 

[UMGriz75]

Fabulous photos!

 

['68griz]

Fabulous photos!

+1. Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.
On a little different note, someone mentioned swimming being compulsory for all students in the '50s. Well, at least through 1968 (and I think that was the last year), you were required to pass a swimming test in order to graduate ... really!

 

[GriznWyo]

Fabulous photos!

+1. Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.
On a little different note, someone mentioned swimming being compulsory for all students in the '50s. Well, at least through 1968 (and I think that was the last year), you were required to pass a swimming test in order to graduate ... really!

I recall that a swimming test was a requirement, but I graduated in '68 and didn't have to take, or pass, one. I know I was worried that I'd have to take one because I'd never learned to swim. I did learn after college.

 

['68griz]

I also graduated in '68, and I had to take a swimming test. I guess some people got a"pass."

 

[GriznWyo]

I also graduated in '68, and I had to take a swimming test. I guess some people got a"pass."

That's interesting. I always wondered why nothing was even said to me about having to take it. I definitely "lucked out". As I remember, in order to graduate you were required to fulfill the requirements of the catalog which were in effect during the year when you entered the University, and a swimming test was one of them. I dreaded the day when I'd have to try and pass. I understood the reason for the test, but I thought it was inappropriate to tie it to a college degree. Apparently, whoever made the rules felt the same.

My wife went to Bozeman her freshman year, 1966, and had to pass a swimming test that year. She transferred to UM the next year.

 

['68griz]

Oh, I always thought the swimming test requirement was insane. What does being able to swim have to do with a Bachelor of Arts degree? Back in 1943, my mother, who was terrified of water, literally paid someone to take the test for her - who was going to question a slightly chubby young woman wearing a swim cap??? And she graduated with honors.

 

[GrizLA]

Don't forget mandatory ROTC..I hated it and have never felt positive about the military since.

 

[grizophile]

Don't forget mandatory ROTC..I hated it and have never felt positive about the military since.

So you got married?

 

[GriznWyo]

Oh, I always thought the swimming test requirement was insane. What does being able to swim have to do with a Bachelor of Arts degree? Back in 1943, my mother, who was terrified of water, literally paid someone to take the test for her - who was going to question a slightly chubby young woman wearing a swim cap??? And she graduated with honors.

Good for your mother! I can see why she was able to graduate with honors :thumb: :thumb:

I wonder how many avoided the test that way.

 

[GriznWyo]

Don't forget mandatory ROTC..I hated it and have never felt positive about the military since.

So you got married?

I was in Air Force ROTC and the classroom part was an easy 2 credit A, so I didn't mind that. But the marching part on the Intramural field was boring.

 

[UMGriz75]

I understood the reason for the test, but I thought it was inappropriate to tie it to a college degree.

It was the "old school" view of the purpose of "University" education -- "mind, body, spirit."

George Dennison, an Historian by training, used to refer to it frequently as the purpose of "university" education.

At Eton, for instance, the value that Wellington saw there was not so much math, languages, chemistry, and gender studies, but the physical education that included key social skills associated with those physical skillsets, all of which, taken together, created an ideal citizen of a Western Democracy. It was very much in the Greek tradition, a combining of Sparta and Athens.

Swimming? Yes, you can't do much with your degree if you drown.

 

[GriznWyo]

I understood the reason for the test, but I thought it was inappropriate to tie it to a college degree.

It was the "old school" view of the purpose of "University" education -- "mind, body, spirit."

George Dennison, an Historian by training, used to refer to it frequently as the purpose of "university" education.

At Eton, for instance, the value that Wellington saw there was not so much math, languages, chemistry, and gender studies, but the physical education that included key social skills associated with those physical skillsets, all of which, taken together, created an ideal citizen of a Western Democracy. It was very much in the Greek tradition, a combining of Sparta and Athens.

Swimming? Yes, you can't do much with your degree if you drown.

True, but then you can't do anything with it if you never get it. It'd be interesting to know how many didn't/couldn't pass it over the decades. And how many paid someone to pass it for them, as I said before.

 

[kemajic]

I also graduated in '68, and I had to take a swimming test. I guess some people got a"pass."

I graduated in '68 also and don't recall having to take the test, although it would have been a nonevent and I could have easily forgotten. What I couldn't forget was the dated and painful requirement for two years of German for a degree in Chemistry. Prof. Horst Jarka was tougher than any FB coach I ever came across.

 

[Grizzoola]

I graduated in '59. I took swimming, not because of a requirement, but because I wanted to know how to swim "properly." I liked swimming, anyway. If it was a requirement, I don't remember it. To me, this is a traditional value that the '60s upended. Everyone should be able to at least float, if not swim, altho i don't see taking a full semester of it. It's just one more thing to extend one's physical capabilities, which was, rightly, the purpose of not only Greek education, but Roman, as well. And, anyway, who said getting an education had to be "fun"?