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"Old" Dornblaser

At 80, all I can do is "reminisce." Remember, late 50s the Bear Paw "sophomore men's honorary," the Silent Sentinel senior men's honorary? Angel Flight, the AFROTC "auxiliary?" You walked on the grass of the Oval, you were close to breaking a law! The 60s changed all that. Not sure for the good.
 
GrizLA said:
UMGriz75 said:
garizzalies said:
So, I got a question for you old boys. Were girls easy back in the day? I've got mixed reports. You always hear about the free-lovin 60s and the one guy above said the statue would only move if a virgin walked in, but then I hear about of the clothes, strict rules, goofy activities, mean old vets for fathers, and think it must have taken an epic amount of work to get into their pants. I mean, shit, everyone married their high-school sweetheart back then.
The "break" came in the period 1966-1968. Homecoming King and Queen were abolished sometime around there. Used to be all their photos in the Lobby of Field House going back to Moses. Then the Yearbook stopped publishing. David Rorvik at the Kaimin took on everyone with his radical editorials. Cheerleaders? Gone. Pep Band? Pep bad. Denny Blouin was hired by the English Dept and penned a nasty little essay in 1969 called "Student as N*****," in which, among a variety of attacks on traditional education, he complained that the English Dept had the nerve to grade students in poetry class on their poems, offering his observation that "grading students on how they write poems is like grading them on how they F...". Well, he got everyone's attention, that's for sure. Woodstock in 1968 was an inspiration. You couldn't go across the Milwaukee tracks down by the river without stumbling across various mini-Woodstocks "in progress" along the river. Stoianoff's "parties" up in the woods became legendary for drugs, alcohol and nudity. Yes, the times were much more conducive to "free love." Then, an ROTC colonel who was pushing back publicly got arrested for soliciting in Salt Lake City. Then just to top things off, Jack Swarthout and the Athletic Department financial aid scandal that turned much of the student body against collegiate varsity sports as corrupt and corrupting.

It was a rout.

It was a marvel that when Jud Heathcote arrived, he was able to restore many of the sport traditions on a campus that had thoroughly rejected them. And I mean that, singlehandedly, without much exaggeration, he turned things around.

However, that period of time is no doubt why the temporary "Dornblaser" ended up staying out at South Avenue for nearly 20 years.
Your time line is a little confused but within reason. I still remember Dave Rorvik's editorial regarding birth control (a rat on a string)..Front Street was where sex,drugs, and R & R were where it was at...Basketball remained popular while football slipped...but, I remember the empty bottles sliding down, beneath (the) bleachers at Dornblaser and getting rousing cheers from the students while those on the other side wondered why the students cheered when they didn't even pay attention to whether or not the team scored. Football was not much of a priority for many in the mid sixties. I recall Missoula as Berkely North in those days...too bad it changed...alas.[/quote

I still recall the cult read out of that era - "UNDER THE GRANDSTAND" by Seymour Hair... Check it out at your Barnes & Ignoble...
 
Here you go gents, seems appropriate for spinning these yarns.

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I'm book marking this thread and next time I'm in Missoula I will buy lunch and beer for any of you gentleman willing to walk around campus with me and give a history lesson. Thanks for the input on this thread.
 
Grizzoola said:
At 80, all I can do is "reminisce." Remember, late 50s the Bear Paw "sophomore men's honorary," the Silent Sentinel senior men's honorary? Angel Flight, the AFROTC "auxiliary?" You walked on the grass of the Oval, you were close to breaking a law! The 60s changed all that. Not sure for the good.
I had many female friends that were members of that "Angel Flight" group. Speaking of the oval, remember when you could actually DRIVE around the oval? I do.......... :o
 
This is such an awesome thread!

UM 1977-1981, so I think I studied for many a test on about the Idaho 15 yard line. ;)

I believe the picture is taken in 1960, so for historical perspective, probably around the same time as the historic Nixon-Kennedy debates.
 
I was in summer session when the City of Missoula auctioned off the bricks that were Higgins Ave and the University over bid and got them and commenced to ban driving past the Lodge and the turnaround where the women were dropped off minutes before the mandatory "curfew". Every time I visit UM and see the bricks now well worn around the oval and Griz sculpture, I remember picking up 21 credits in an 8 week session....I also mopped the floors of the lounge area at the Lodge and made more going through the couches than the salary...
 
GrizLA said:
I was in summer session when the City of Missoula auctioned off the bricks that were Higgins Ave and the University over bid and got them and commenced to ban driving past the Lodge and the turnaround where the women were dropped off minutes before the mandatory "curfew". Every time I visit UM and see the bricks now well worn around the oval and Griz sculpture, I remember picking up 21 credits in an 8 week session....I also mopped the floors of the lounge area at the Lodge and made more going through the couches than the salary...
So, I am learning even more from this thread. Is the primary reason you could drive around the oval, was to drop the women off at the dorms? I had thought it had something to do with Main Hall. :roll:
 
This thread is great, bringing back a lot of memories. I never missed a football game in my years at UM...['63-'68}. Besides many of the Griz players, I'll never forget some of the opposition players, Roy Shivers of Utah State running wild, tacklers bouncing off "Thunder Ray", Stenerud chasing down the ball when it was snapped over the holder's head, but then bailing out when he saw the Griz players bearing down on him. Entertainment in the stands wasn't bad either, cams and dregs, drunks, etc. For some, Dornblaser at night wasn't a bad place to take a girl and a blanket, or a six pack with a couple friends. Who remembers the "Pizza Bug" delivering pizzas from Pizza Oven?
 
Not sure I am proud about this, but when I lived in the UM dorms (Craig Hall), and I and my friends were too young to drink legally, we sometimes dressed up one of our buddies who looked older, as a dirty old cowboy, and with a fake ID, he could buy booze at the Turf Bar on Main Street. He bought flavored (often lime) vodka which we all drank in a empty Milwaukee Railroad boxcar (adjacent to present day river trail where Hellgate High track is now).

We had a grand old time getting drunk in the box car, telling stories,laughing, and eventually crawling back to the dorm. You would not think that is fun, but as I look back thru time it was a grand old time. Several of my old friends that we did this with (~1967-1968) have now passed on, and I miss them very much, and often reminisce with fondness upon these times.

As you age your mortality becomes more real, and good times from one's youth such as these assume greater significance.
 
stilwtrgrizz said:
Grizzoola said:
At 80, all I can do is "reminisce." Remember, late 50s the Bear Paw "sophomore men's honorary," the Silent Sentinel senior men's honorary? Angel Flight, the AFROTC "auxiliary?" You walked on the grass of the Oval, you were close to breaking a law! The 60s changed all that. Not sure for the good.
I had many female friends that were members of that "Angel Flight" group. Speaking of the oval, remember when you could actually DRIVE around the oval? I do.......... :o
Oooh, yeah! I was a frosh, 1956, staying in Craig. At that time Maurice Avenue was a roadway thru campus. Closed long since w/ the Grizzly statue, etc. Anyway, Maurice was a disaster for a "street." It had big, deep potholes. Carl McFarland was pres. at the time. One morning, crossing Maurice to class, I saw a sign, "Carl's Bad Caverns." Yep, we had jokers back then!
 
GrizRanger said:
As you age your mortality becomes more real, and good times from one's youth such as these assume greater significance.
I'll drink to that! Anyone here know what a "bull session" was?
 
When I was around 10 I used to scrounge under the bleachers during and after games for pop bottles people would toss down after they were done with them. I would cash them in to buy 22 shells so I could shoot gophers and badgers in the field behind my house just off Dore Lane. Good luck finding a field there now.
 
Spanky said:
I'll drink to that as well GrizRanger!!
Shit, I'll drink to this whole thing. I really thought I might see 5 or 6 responses to this thread. WOW, was I wrong. Not to get too mushy here, but, this old Griz fan is absolutely BLOWN AWAY by the response, the stories, and the fun. Thank you sooooooooo much E-Griz . :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
GrizRanger said:
He bought flavored (often lime) vodka which we all drank in a empty Milwaukee Railroad boxcar (adjacent to present day river trail where Hellgate High track is now).
Mid-70s, Milwaukee installed an elaborate underpass for pedestrians near the Field House to access the Van Buren St footbridge. Students were always crossing the tracks to access the bridge and the River, and even the Milwaukee's Electric-powered hotshot freights had special instructions for passing through the University of Montana. For over 70 years, the University and the Milwaukee Road shared the north edge of the Campus. It was a situation always ripe for a disaster, and its a miracle than none ever happened that I am aware of. Indeed, Mick Delaney recalls that student "specials" -- passenger trains assembled for trips to Butte and back for the Bobcat/Griz games -- were a popular item with the passenger depot so close to Campus; so there was a positive memory there for many years. I understand from some sources that on the return trips the trains would stop on the Campus proper to discharge U students living in dorms, and then continue to the Depot proper. I don't have any information that this tradition continued after the games alternated between Missoula and Bozeman, rather than Butte, but MILW ended its transcontinental passenger service in 1961, and so it was moot anyway.

In 1972 or '73, seems an engineer was switching on their East yard, and looked back just as he was starting his string of cars, and saw a large basset hound pulling out from under a boxcar with the leash extending under the boxcar. "Oh crap," as he set his air, and looked out the other side, and there was ANOTHER large basset hound pulling hard in the other direction, with his leash extending under the boxcar. Some fool student was trying to cross under a boxcar with a switching train operating, when his Bassets went beserk and took off in opposite directions and trapped him under the boxcar. It was a close call; the engineer reported it to the Roadmaster, and in turn the Railroad decided there were too many close calls, and so the U and the MILW spent the money to build the rather elaborate concrete pedestrian and bicycle underpass. I believe it was completed in 1974, possibly 1975. Of course, with the Hellgate Winds, it promptly filled up with snow in the winter, was mostly ignored by students anyway, and then the RR stopped running in 1980. It was filled in. But, it's still there, buried under the Bike trail. After the Apocalypse someday, archeologists will be digging around wondering what was on this ancient lakebed, and uncover this mystery. No doubt a temple, used for obsolete and mysterious religious ceremonies.

On the UM Campus, August, 1971:

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