Offensive Line in 2022

[uofmman1122]

I really don't know what the e-griz fanbase expects. It is people like, I'm guessing here, 85 % of you that have annointed Hauck coach for life. For the record I think Hauck is a good, not great, football coach. He has flaws and there is no incentive to address those flaws. Hauck and the Griz are going to go 9-2 mininally every year because of the dilution of the FCS and the general mediocraty of the lower echalon of the Big Sky. But Stitt could probably go 8-3 most years. They have, in my opinion, a weak non-conference 2022 schedules that almost insures them of a seed for the playoffs which is what Hauck and Haslem want but won't prepare them for late season runs. One of Hauck's flaws, besides being in part a narcisistic ahole (which is probably a partial requirement for any coach) is stubborness. I don't believe Hauck will ever replace his coaches, just like he won't reveal injuries or let pictures be taken at practice. He is paranoid beyond what is needed. You won't see UM coaches move up like the Cats DC because nobody else wants them at this point. So I wouldn't expect any changes to the O-line coaching because nobody is really pressuring Hauck to make changes. It is what it is folks want and and the majority of the fan base supports the status quo. I'd like to see at least some minimal changes but I'm not holding my breath.

I was never a Stitt hater, but this is demonstrably untrue, given that he never once went 8-3 and his teams didn't really improve year over year.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I really don't know what the e-griz fanbase expects. It is people like, I'm guessing here, 85 % of you that have annointed Hauck coach for life. For the record I think Hauck is a good, not great, football coach. He has flaws and there is no incentive to address those flaws. Hauck and the Griz are going to go 9-2 mininally every year because of the dilution of the FCS and the general mediocraty of the lower echalon of the Big Sky. But Stitt could probably go 8-3 most years. They have, in my opinion, a weak non-conference 2022 schedules that almost insures them of a seed for the playoffs which is what Hauck and Haslem want but won't prepare them for late season runs. One of Hauck's flaws, besides being in part a narcisistic ahole (which is probably a partial requirement for any coach) is stubborness. I don't believe Hauck will ever replace his coaches, just like he won't reveal injuries or let pictures be taken at practice. He is paranoid beyond what is needed. You won't see UM coaches move up like the Cats DC because nobody else wants them at this point. So I wouldn't expect any changes to the O-line coaching because nobody is really pressuring Hauck to make changes. It is what it is folks want and and the majority of the fan base supports the status quo. I'd like to see at least some minimal changes but I'm not holding my breath.

I was never a Stitt hater, but this is demonstrably untrue, given that he never once went 8-3 and his teams didn't really improve year over year.

I was a huge Stitt supporter and even I can admit this is demonstrably untrue….as demonstrated by Stitt himself in 2015, 2016 and 2017.

 

[fanofzoo]

Seems fair

Not really comparable.

Why ?

 

[fanofzoo]

I really don't know what the e-griz fanbase expects. It is people like, I'm guessing here, 85 % of you that have annointed Hauck coach for life. For the record I think Hauck is a good, not great, football coach. He has flaws and there is no incentive to address those flaws. Hauck and the Griz are going to go 9-2 mininally every year because of the dilution of the FCS and the general mediocraty of the lower echalon of the Big Sky. But Stitt could probably go 8-3 most years. They have, in my opinion, a weak non-conference 2022 schedules that almost insures them of a seed for the playoffs which is what Hauck and Haslem want but won't prepare them for late season runs. One of Hauck's flaws, besides being in part a narcisistic ahole (which is probably a partial requirement for any coach) is stubborness. I don't believe Hauck will ever replace his coaches, just like he won't reveal injuries or let pictures be taken at practice. He is paranoid beyond what is needed. You won't see UM coaches move up like the Cats DC because nobody else wants them at this point. So I wouldn't expect any changes to the O-line coaching because nobody is really pressuring Hauck to make changes. It is what it is folks want and and the majority of the fan base supports the status quo. I'd like to see at least some minimal changes but I'm not holding my breath.

I agree.

 

[fanofzoo]

Uh hate to say it but kittie coach , first year semi's, bobby 4 years and losing in the quarters.

I wonder what happened when these two teams played head-to-head.

I will agree that we beat them badly (yes) but then we went on and played the same game and lost while the cats (small c) said "we have to make changes" and look where they are.
Flexible we are not.
What is so hard to admit ?

 

[Dillon]

What ever happened to Anderson?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Not really comparable.

Why ?

Each coach was hired at a very different time in the health of the program for very different reasons. One was hired because the previous guy was fired for underperforming, leaving a program at it's lowest point in 2 decades with a less than good overall roster. The other guy was hired because the previous guy had success and moved on, leaving a program at a very positive point with an overall very good roster.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I really don't know what the e-griz fanbase expects. It is people like, I'm guessing here, 85 % of you that have annointed Hauck coach for life. For the record I think Hauck is a good, not great, football coach. He has flaws and there is no incentive to address those flaws. Hauck and the Griz are going to go 9-2 mininally every year because of the dilution of the FCS and the general mediocraty of the lower echalon of the Big Sky. But Stitt could probably go 8-3 most years. They have, in my opinion, a weak non-conference 2022 schedules that almost insures them of a seed for the playoffs which is what Hauck and Haslem want but won't prepare them for late season runs. One of Hauck's flaws, besides being in part a narcisistic ahole (which is probably a partial requirement for any coach) is stubborness. I don't believe Hauck will ever replace his coaches, just like he won't reveal injuries or let pictures be taken at practice. He is paranoid beyond what is needed. You won't see UM coaches move up like the Cats DC because nobody else wants them at this point. So I wouldn't expect any changes to the O-line coaching because nobody is really pressuring Hauck to make changes. It is what it is folks want and and the majority of the fan base supports the status quo. I'd like to see at least some minimal changes but I'm not holding my breath.

I agree.

I wholeheartedly disagree. I think 8 wins was Stitt's ceiling. I think that if Stitt was retained, the last several years would have been nonplayoff with 6ish wins maximum.

 

[fanofzoo]

Why ?

Each coach was hired at a very different time in the health of the program for very different reasons. One was hired because the previous guy was fired for underperforming, leaving a program at it's lowest point in 2 decades with a less than good overall roster. The other guy was hired because the previous guy had success and moved on, leaving a program at a very positive point with an overall very good roster.

Always the future but don't great coaches deal with what they have, adapt and overcome while moving forward.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Each coach was hired at a very different time in the health of the program for very different reasons. One was hired because the previous guy was fired for underperforming, leaving a program at it's lowest point in 2 decades with a less than good overall roster. The other guy was hired because the previous guy had success and moved on, leaving a program at a very positive point with an overall very good roster.

Always the future but don't great coaches deal with what they have, adapt and overcome while moving forward.

If you want to complain where BH has the program now, knock yourself out. But if you want to compare year 1 for Vigen with year 1 for BH, the comparison is apples and oranges just base on the situation that each walked into and they are just now getting on comparable footing. Vigen hit lightning in a bottle with TM, and it has put that team over the top now. This BH team was close. It amazes me how people want to complain about having back-to-back 10 win seasons with trips to the QF.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Each coach was hired at a very different time in the health of the program for very different reasons. One was hired because the previous guy was fired for underperforming, leaving a program at it's lowest point in 2 decades with a less than good overall roster. The other guy was hired because the previous guy had success and moved on, leaving a program at a very positive point with an overall very good roster.

Always the future but don't great coaches deal with what they have, adapt and overcome while moving forward.

Also, who is to say this didn't happen, the deal, adapt, and overcome?

 

[3-7-77]

You the writer for 'Heartbreak Ridge?' Good question though.

The bottom line is the offensive line sucked, whatever the reasons. Whether they were held together with chewing gum and tape or not, they sucked. Call a spade a spade.

 

[MTGRZ]

You the writer for 'Heartbreak Ridge?' Good question though.

The bottom line is the offensive line sucked, whatever the reasons. Whether they were held together with chewing gum and tape or not, they sucked. Call a spade a spade.

My original post is focused going forward. I will not disagree with you that the Oline struggled mightily this past season. But again, it is worth noting what they had to work with when Hauck returned. I understand there is some trepidation about the Oline coaching, but I truly think in two years this will be our most improved group.

 

[Hawkeyebowhunter]

I really don't know what the e-griz fanbase expects. It is people like, I'm guessing here, 85 % of you that have annointed Hauck coach for life. For the record I think Hauck is a good, not great, football coach. He has flaws and there is no incentive to address those flaws. Hauck and the Griz are going to go 9-2 mininally every year because of the dilution of the FCS and the general mediocraty of the lower echalon of the Big Sky. But Stitt could probably go 8-3 most years. They have, in my opinion, a weak non-conference 2022 schedules that almost insures them of a seed for the playoffs which is what Hauck and Haslem want but won't prepare them for late season runs. One of Hauck's flaws, besides being in part a narcisistic ahole (which is probably a partial requirement for any coach) is stubborness. I don't believe Hauck will ever replace his coaches, just like he won't reveal injuries or let pictures be taken at practice. He is paranoid beyond what is needed. You won't see UM coaches move up like the Cats DC because nobody else wants them at this point. So I wouldn't expect any changes to the O-line coaching because nobody is really pressuring Hauck to make changes. It is what it is folks want and and the majority of the fan base supports the status quo. I'd like to see at least some minimal changes but I'm not holding my breath.

WHAT???? I'm real confused by the bolded part of your comment. If he could have-why didn't he? stitthead got fired for being a terrible coach, and left this program teetering on the brink of collapse (outside of some wideouts and some decent guys in the back 7).

I do agree with some of our assistant coaches need to go, and we need to see improvement across the board on offense in particular.

 

[SoldierGriz]

You the writer for 'Heartbreak Ridge?' Good question though.

The bottom line is the offensive line sucked, whatever the reasons. Whether they were held together with chewing gum and tape or not, they sucked. Call a spade a spade.

My original post is focused going forward. I will not disagree with you that the Oline struggled mightily this past season. But again, it is worth noting what they had to work with when Hauck returned. I understand there is some trepidation about the Oline coaching, but I truly think in two years this will be our most improved group.

2 friggin years? Is that like 6 years in BH's term? Really? Why?

 

[Ursus1]

My original post is focused going forward. I will not disagree with you that the Oline struggled mightily this past season. But again, it is worth noting what they had to work with when Hauck returned. I understand there is some trepidation about the Oline coaching, but I truly think in two years this will be our most improved group.

2 friggin years? Is that like 6 years in BH's term? Really? Why?

I remember many saying he needs 4....guess inflation hit that this year. But you are correct, 6 years is a joke. If a coach can't get it turned around in 4 something is seriously wrong with position coach and head coach for not getting the job done.

 

[SaskGriz]

You the writer for 'Heartbreak Ridge?' Good question though.

The bottom line is the offensive line sucked, whatever the reasons. Whether they were held together with chewing gum and tape or not, they sucked. Call a spade a spade.

My original post is focused going forward. I will not disagree with you that the Oline struggled mightily this past season. But again, it is worth noting what they had to work with when Hauck returned. I understand there is some trepidation about the Oline coaching, but I truly think in two years this will be our most improved group.

This post is nonsensical. Coach Hauck came back in for the 2018 season. Conlan Beaver is the only starter who Coach Stitt recruited and Skyler Martin is the only other player not recruited by Hauck. These are Hauck's guys, Hauck's coaches, Hauck's system and Hauck's results. I'm not a Hauck hater, I'm as marooned glasses up as anybody but c'mon man.

 

['68griz]

My original post is focused going forward. I will not disagree with you that the Oline struggled mightily this past season. But again, it is worth noting what they had to work with when Hauck returned. I understand there is some trepidation about the Oline coaching, but I truly think in two years this will be our most improved group.

This post is nonsensical. Coach Hauck came back in for the 2018 season. Conlan Beaver is the only starter who Coach Stitt recruited and Skyler Martin is the only other player not recruited by Hauck. These are Hauck's guys, Hauck's coaches, Hauck's system and Hauck's results. I'm not a Hauck hater, I'm as marooned glasses up as anybody but c'mon man.

This.

 

[AZGrizFan]

My original post is focused going forward. I will not disagree with you that the Oline struggled mightily this past season. But again, it is worth noting what they had to work with when Hauck returned. I understand there is some trepidation about the Oline coaching, but I truly think in two years this will be our most improved group.

This post is nonsensical. Coach Hauck came back in for the 2018 season. Conlan Beaver is the only starter who Coach Stitt recruited and Skyler Martin is the only other player not recruited by Hauck. These are Hauck's guys, Hauck's coaches, Hauck's system and Hauck's results. I'm not a Hauck hater, I'm as marooned glasses up as anybody but c'mon man.

Thank you Sask, for a dose of reality. This IS Hauck’s “answer”. Let’s hope he’s got something up his sleeve….