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PlayerRep said:
The Griz have not been an average team under Delaney. Year one was without JJ (and any qb with any experience) and a tough transition year. Year 2 was a 10-3 year with a playoff seed. We'll see how this year goes. It may end average or it may not.

Show me any team at any level playing with no returning o-line starters, their top 3 tackles out (2 for the season), 3 of their top 4 receivers out, including 3 of their 4 fastest receivers, and both kickers out. Sure teams adjust to injuries, but that doesn't mean that teams can recover from having this many players out for the season on offense. Feel free to name any team in Big Sky history who has had 5 expected offensive players out for the season, and an additional 2d team tackle (then starting) out for most of the season.

Yes, the kicking game should be better, but note that both starters are currently. Feel free to name any team in the country with both kickers out.

You grossly minimize the impact of the injuries. You should know better. I assume blaming Delaney and the coaches has now become your agenda. Feel free to blame and criticize the coaches, but don't overlook reality, including the injuries and last season.

And came you not come unglued, like you have been doing lately, when someone disagrees with you.
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20-12 is pretty average playing in the weak Big Sky. The rest of your excuses are pretty sad for somebody that says he played the game. Things happen in football and you can lay there and take it or next man up it.
 
PlayerRep said:
monte is a character said:
mtgrizrule said:
monte is a character said:
You are kidding, right?
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Yes, injuries impact any team, any sport, at all levels. The better teams make the necessary strategic adjustments to best utilize their personnel. Why are the GRIZ an average team under Delaney? This staff struggles with adjustments, especially on offense. The injury reason or excuse would be much easier to respect, if this staff were trying different things with their current personnel options. They have done that, but very few and way too far in between. They struggle with adjustments and utilizing the whole field.

So what were the excuses or reasons prior to this season when we lost to winning playoff caliber teams? After all we were much healthier, we had an experienced OL. Last season this offense relied on deep passing way too often. That worked great the 1st half of the season, but when opponents took that away from us, the staff failed to consistently adjust to the defenses.

Sorry, this is the 3rd year of this staff, the growing pains should be well behind us. We should be seeing more consistent play on both sides of the ball. We should not be struggling with our kicking game still. This program under Delaney has not improved. Last year, we got some breaks. This year, we are not getting as many breaks.

Things have to change for the better. Either that is done by our coaches adjusting and find other ways to accomplish things, or start over with a new staff. This staff has 4 regular season games left to help or hurt their outcome. What will they do?
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Great post, and accurate about being lucky last year. Fans seem to want to forget the two wins against Poly and South Dakota that we could not pull off one in a hundred tries if the same circumstances were there again. Those two losses would have meant no playoffs ONCE AGAIN under this coach. Of course, we did not deserve to be in the playoffs anyway, as evidenced by the egg we laid AT HOME against a very average Coastal Carolina team.
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UM has had multiple wins like those wins over the past few decades. Nothing unusual. You must be a new follower of UM, if you don't know how often UM has had wins and comebacks like that. CC was hardly an average team, and they played their best game of the season against UM. Looks like CC is hardly average this year either.[/quote

How can you say they played their best game of the season?
 
I suppose I should have phrased my comment better. My friend didn't see them arguing but heard one side of the conversation taking place over the headset. It is entirely possible that only hearing part of the discussion led him to the wrong conclusion. That's why I asked the question because I thought someone here may have additional information. I've encountered Gragg a few times and to me he comes off as a jerk. I could see him acting like one in a game too. :twocents:
 
While I agree with PlayerRep that CC wasn't an average team...we used to frequently beat teams that were much better than average & playoff caliber.

Now we don't.

This year seems to be no different than the previous 2 years under Delaney when it comes to beating good teams. Last year we had the benefit of having a schedule with a lot of average or below average teams that we beat. This year, much tougher schedule it looks like.

Maybe our streak of no wins against playoff caliber teams changes this year though and we pick up some good wins. I'm not giving up yet...just saying the trend we've seen these past years under Delaney when it comes to playing against good teams is alarming.
 
Good grief. Montana's defense gave up six touchdowns and more than 500 yards. I wish someone would argue over Ty Gregorak's headset during the game. He's second only to Don Read in his time as a Griz coach and he doesn't have a freaking clue.
No one that terrible at his job should be a team's second most tenured coach in the last 30 years.
 
You can bet that one of the OC's have the ultimate say. The other is there to help out and bounce things off of. It is a way of building a resume, I'm not sure which is which.
 
Big G said:
PlayerRep said:
The Griz have not been an average team under Delaney. Year one was without JJ (and any qb with any experience) and a tough transition year. Year 2 was a 10-3 year with a playoff seed. We'll see how this year goes. It may end average or it may not.

Show me any team at any level playing with no returning o-line starters, their top 3 tackles out (2 for the season), 3 of their top 4 receivers out, including 3 of their 4 fastest receivers, and both kickers out. Sure teams adjust to injuries, but that doesn't mean that teams can recover from having this many players out for the season on offense. Feel free to name any team in Big Sky history who has had 5 expected offensive players out for the season, and an additional 2d team tackle (then starting) out for most of the season.

Yes, the kicking game should be better, but note that both starters are currently. Feel free to name any team in the country with both kickers out.

You grossly minimize the impact of the injuries. You should know better. I assume blaming Delaney and the coaches has now become your agenda. Feel free to blame and criticize the coaches, but don't overlook reality, including the injuries and last season.

And came you not come unglued, like you have been doing lately, when someone disagrees with you.
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20-12 is pretty average playing in the weak Big Sky. The rest of your excuses are pretty sad for somebody that says he played the game. Things happen in football and you can lay there and take it or next man up it.
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Player Rep provides constant entertainment on this board, you must admit. He is like a bad "B" movie. So pathetic that you want to keep watching hoping it will improve, but it never does.
 
monte is a character said:
Big G said:
PlayerRep said:
The Griz have not been an average team under Delaney. Year one was without JJ (and any qb with any experience) and a tough transition year. Year 2 was a 10-3 year with a playoff seed. We'll see how this year goes. It may end average or it may not.

Show me any team at any level playing with no returning o-line starters, their top 3 tackles out (2 for the season), 3 of their top 4 receivers out, including 3 of their 4 fastest receivers, and both kickers out. Sure teams adjust to injuries, but that doesn't mean that teams can recover from having this many players out for the season on offense. Feel free to name any team in Big Sky history who has had 5 expected offensive players out for the season, and an additional 2d team tackle (then starting) out for most of the season.

Yes, the kicking game should be better, but note that both starters are currently. Feel free to name any team in the country with both kickers out.

You grossly minimize the impact of the injuries. You should know better. I assume blaming Delaney and the coaches has now become your agenda. Feel free to blame and criticize the coaches, but don't overlook reality, including the injuries and last season.

And came you not come unglued, like you have been doing lately, when someone disagrees with you.
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20-12 is pretty average playing in the weak Big Sky. The rest of your excuses are pretty sad for somebody that says he played the game. Things happen in football and you can lay there and take it or next man up it.
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This guy is a standing joke around Griz football. He thinks he is an insider, but players and coaches run the other way when they see him approaching.
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Do they run up your butt?
 
monte is a character said:
CDAGRIZ said:
This is like the devil's double dutch rudder right now.
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Why don't you stop being such a prick and try posting something related to the game of football once, or is that beyond the scope of your capability?
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I'm sorry. You're right. That was out of character for me, and I apologize. But, you have to admit it was pretty much spot on.
 
Big G said:
PlayerRep said:
The Griz have not been an average team under Delaney. Year one was without JJ (and any qb with any experience) and a tough transition year. Year 2 was a 10-3 year with a playoff seed. We'll see how this year goes. It may end average or it may not.

Show me any team at any level playing with no returning o-line starters, their top 3 tackles out (2 for the season), 3 of their top 4 receivers out, including 3 of their 4 fastest receivers, and both kickers out. Sure teams adjust to injuries, but that doesn't mean that teams can recover from having this many players out for the season on offense. Feel free to name any team in Big Sky history who has had 5 expected offensive players out for the season, and an additional 2d team tackle (then starting) out for most of the season.

Yes, the kicking game should be better, but note that both starters are currently. Feel free to name any team in the country with both kickers out.

You grossly minimize the impact of the injuries. You should know better. I assume blaming Delaney and the coaches has now become your agenda. Feel free to blame and criticize the coaches, but don't overlook reality, including the injuries and last season.

And came you not come unglued, like you have been doing lately, when someone disagrees with you.
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20-12 is pretty average playing in the weak Big Sky. The rest of your excuses are pretty sad for somebody that says he played the game. Things happen in football and you can lay there and take it or next man up it.
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The Big Sky isn't weak. What was it, 5 playoff teams last year from the Big Sky. One of the top FCS conferences in most years.

Feel free to point out any team that had great success playing without its star qb, combined with not having any qb on the team who had completed a pass in college. Feel free to point out any team missing 6 expected starters on offense for the season, plus having a 7th expected starter leave the team in the spring (Harper). I'll be happy to listen, after you've provided some similar examples.
 
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