O'Day lawyers up

[Growler1]

Stop this goddam whining and nit-picking. I don't care what happens w/ Pflu & O'Day. That's history. They are good guys who did not realize how morally corrupt UM's football culture became. RE had to let them go. It's also a clear signal to present and future coaches and players that the UM football program is not morally where it has been. You either shape up or ship out. Just ask coach Gregorak about his experience at UNLV.

Can you please articulate for us how the UM football culture is morally corrupt?

Don't play the innocent. You know very well what I'm talking about. It's been on this board, the Kaimin, and local, if not national media for years. If the Griz football program had not been morally corrupt, Pflu and O'Day would still have their jobs.

Answer the question; don't avoid it. Stop making conclusionary statements, if you can't provide support for them.

Don't try logic with win-at-all-cost people with an agenda. They have an axe to grind, cause their cozy little surrogate world of living vicariously through Grizzly football has been compromised. Besides Titleist is a mod, and NOBODY questions the innate intelligence of a mod! And Playa Rep is the consummate jock-sniffer, whose world revolves around being a big fish in a very small pond. NOBODY! EVERYBODY BUNDLES!

 

[MrTitleist]

Can you please articulate for us how the UM football culture is morally corrupt?

Don't play the innocent. You know very well what I'm talking about. It's been on this board, the Kaimin, and local, if not national media for years. If the Griz football program had not been morally corrupt, Pflu and O'Day would still have their jobs.

Answer the question; don't avoid it. Stop making conclusionary statements, if you can't provide support for them.

Don't try logic with win-at-all-cost people with an agenda. They have an axe to grind, cause their cozy little surrogate world of living vicariously through Grizzly football has been compromised. Besides Titleist is a mod, and NOBODY questions the innate intelligence of a mod! And Playa Rep is the consummate jock-sniffer, whose world revolves around being a big fish in a very small pond. NOBODY! EVERYBODY BUNDLES!

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz.. This is your big chance in life to be someone. Don't blow it, dude!

 

[kemajic]

morality is not a perception, it's behavior.

A magician uses perception to make you think he sawed somebody in half, but it isn't reality.

As to the 80 sexr half, but

Obama is the worst president in the past 100 years.

Really? Worse than Herbert Hoover, who failed to do anything to end the Great Depression? Worse than Bush Jr. who started a war? Worse than Nixon, who committed a felony crime while sitting in his office?

Way worse. But why not mention the dandy that got the blow job from an employee in his offical office? And we think UM football players are "morally corrupt"...... Clinton should be equated to Sandusky.

 

[Skookum-Jim]

morality is not a perception, it's behavior.

A magician uses perception to make you think he sawed somebody in half, but it isn't reality.

As to the 80 sexr half, but

Obama is the worst president in the past 100 years.

Really? Worse than Herbert Hoover, who failed to do anything to end the Great Depression? Worse than Bush Jr. who started a war? Worse than Nixon, who committed a felony crime while sitting in his office?

Way worse. But why not mention the dandy that got the blow job from an employee in his offical office? And we think UM football players are "morally corrupt"...... Clinton should be equated to Sandusky.

God you're an idiot! :roll:

 

[kemajic]

Obama is the worst president in the past 100 years.

Really? Worse than Herbert Hoover, who failed to do anything to end the Great Depression? Worse than Bush Jr. who started a war? Worse than Nixon, who committed a felony crime while sitting in his office?

Way worse. But why not mention the dandy that got the blow job from an employee in his offical office? And we think UM football players are "morally corrupt"...... Clinton should be equated to Sandusky.

God you're an idiot! :roll:

Is this a Canadian Socialist thing to just resort to name-calling when you have nothing to refute the statements?

To set the record straight regarding the Great Depression; FDR's great social agendas did nothing but extend it. It took World War II to bring the US back to a robust economy. Times were every bit as tough in 1938 as they were in 1931. Speaking of wars, which President started the Viet Nam war? Hint: the same guy that kept his SS busy whisking his mistresses in and out of the White House. And we are concerned about morality in the UM football program? And which President ended the Viet Nam War? The morality of Obama's SS is quite sweet as well, but that has to be Bush's fault. Maybe Bush and Hauck were in cahoots....

Jimmy Carter belongs on any list of worst Presidents.

 

[mcg]

morality is not a perception, it's behavior.

A magician uses perception to make you think he sawed somebody in half, but it isn't reality.

As to the 80 sexr half, but

Obama is the worst president in the past 100 years.

Really? Worse than Herbert Hoover, who failed to do anything to end the Great Depression? Worse than Bush Jr. who started a war? Worse than Nixon, who committed a felony crime while sitting in his office?

Way worse. But why not mention the dandy that got the blow job from an employee in his offical office? And we think UM football players are "morally corrupt"...... Clinton should be equated to Sandusky.

Didn't break the law, balanced the budget and didn't go to war, not a bad resume really. Would I set him out as role model for my son, probably not, but I'll take the results. If we are talking morality, how 'bout President Eisenhower? He spent World War Two in the very pleasant company of his female driver.

 

[kemajic]

Obama is the worst president in the past 100 years.

Really? Worse than Herbert Hoover, who failed to do anything to end the Great Depression? Worse than Bush Jr. who started a war? Worse than Nixon, who committed a felony crime while sitting in his office?

Way worse. But why not mention the dandy that got the blow job from an employee in his offical office? And we think UM football players are "morally corrupt"...... Clinton should be equated to Sandusky.

Didn't break the law, balanced the budget and didn't go to war, not a bad resume really. Would I set him out as role model for my son, probably not, but I'll take the results. If we are talking morality, how 'bout President Eisenhower? He spent World War Two in the very pleasant company of his female driver.

OK, so you like Clinton's results (thank goodness he did not have a Democratic Congress) and you will take the hit on the morality. You also like the UM football results, but you won't take the hit on the morality. Is this just the way you are or is there an explanation?

 

[mcg]

Really? Worse than Herbert Hoover, who failed to do anything to end the Great Depression? Worse than Bush Jr. who started a war? Worse than Nixon, who committed a felony crime while sitting in his office?

Way worse. But why not mention the dandy that got the blow job from an employee in his offical office? And we think UM football players are "morally corrupt"...... Clinton should be equated to Sandusky.

God you're an idiot! :roll:

Is this a Canadian Socialist thing to just resort to name-calling when you have nothing to refute the statements?

To set the record straight regarding the Great Depression; FDR's great social agendas did nothing but extend it.

This of course is completely incorrect. The New Deal made an incredible difference in the welfare of millions of americans and served to turn the tide of the Great Depression. It put people to work and made investment in America's infrastructure that still pay off today (for example, in the county I live in the court house was a WPA project that we still use. Fort Peck Dam is another great example). The error was reducing the level of spending in the late 1930's as a response to Republican whining about 'debt', which had the effect of reducing the pace of the recovery (sound familiar?).

 

[tnt]

You need to stick to being banned and stop making stupid posts about things you don't know about. I'm not trying to spin anything, I want David2 to back up his bullshit with some facts instead of generalizations that sweep across the 95% of student athletes who are good student athletes and don't belong lumped in with dumbasses like Beau Donaldson and Quenton Freeman.

Not sure what numbers you are looking for. But for the morality of the student body to equal that of the FB team, there would have to be 140 rape confessions, 820 rape complaints , 600 DUI covictions, and close to 500 asaults. I'm thinking that with a 1000 felony investigations, 140 felony covictions, and another 1100 hundred or so combined DUI's and assaults, not only would ou court system be a bit clogged, our dective division overwhemed, there might be an article or two in the Missoulian and a few people in the community thinking there was a problem.

 

[mcg]

Really? Worse than Herbert Hoover, who failed to do anything to end the Great Depression? Worse than Bush Jr. who started a war? Worse than Nixon, who committed a felony crime while sitting in his office?

Way worse. But why not mention the dandy that got the blow job from an employee in his offical office? And we think UM football players are "morally corrupt"...... Clinton should be equated to Sandusky.

Didn't break the law, balanced the budget and didn't go to war, not a bad resume really. Would I set him out as role model for my son, probably not, but I'll take the results. If we are talking morality, how 'bout President Eisenhower? He spent World War Two in the very pleasant company of his female driver.

OK, so you like Clinton's results (thank goodness he did not have a Democratic Congress) and you will take the hit on the morality. You also like the UM football results, but you won't take the hit on the morality. Is this just the way you are or is there an explanation?

I have no opinion really on the morality of UM Football. The internet buzz is that there are lot's of bad things out there, but the reality seems to be that the really bad things are quite limited. Only the Donaldson rape charge is visible to me as an amoral thing. That's what I'm trying to figure out, where are the bad things that seem to be a problem. I really am open to seeing them, but I can't. Note that I'm not saying that there are no bad things, what I'm saying is that the leadership of the University has failed to state what it is that is a problem.

I'd also note that Clinton's escapade with Ms. Lewinsky was entirely consensual for both parties.

 

[Grizzoola]

Way worse. But why not mention the dandy that got the blow job from an employee in his offical office? And we think UM football players are "morally corrupt"...... Clinton should be equated to Sandusky.

God you're an idiot! :roll:

Is this a Canadian Socialist thing to just resort to name-calling when you have nothing to refute the statements?

To set the record straight regarding the Great Depression; FDR's great social agendas did nothing but extend it.

This of course is completely incorrect. The New Deal made an incredible difference in the welfare of millions of americans and served to turn the tide of the Great Depression. It put people to work and made investment in America's infrastructure that still pay off today (for example, in the county I live in the court house was a WPA project that we still use. Fort Peck Dam is another great example). The error was reducing the level of spending in the late 1930's as a response to Republican whining about 'debt', which had the effect of reducing the pace of the recovery (sound familiar?).

To back you up, WWII was the greatest MASSIVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING project up to that time. Government spending and control of the economy those 5 years pulled this country out of the Great Depression. It was not a nickel & dime Republican private enterprise project, like they're wanting, now. When that war ended, people had money in their pockets, even tho the national debt was high. They went out & spent that money on cars, housing, etc., and the debt nosedived shortly thereafter.

WWII was socialism at its best. Hate to say this, but Pearl Harbor was good for our economy. We are going to continue in our economic doldrums as long as we listen to the Republicans trying to nickel & dime us back to where we were before the vaunted private sector screwed us, once again. The only way we will get back to where we were is thru MASSIVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING like in WWII. Private enterprise, by itself, ain't going to cut it.

 

[GrizPony]

Jesus you are stupid. Kill yourself please and don't have the government steal my money to pay for your burial.

 

[Grizzoola]

Jesus you are stupid. Kill yourself please and don't have the government steal my money to pay for your burial.

No, you are both stupid and ignorant of history. You can't refute what I say, so you call names. ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Worse yet, you are a UM grad? If you are, I bet you're a product of that conservative hotbed of a business school. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

 

[kemajic]

Jesus you are stupid. Kill yourself please and don't have the government steal my money to pay for your burial.

And they reproduce and vote.....

 

[kemajic]

Jesus you are stupid. Kill yourself please and don't have the government steal my money to pay for your burial.

No, you are both stupid and ignorant of history. You can't refute what I say, so you call names. ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Worse yet, you are a UM grad? If you are, I bet you're a product of that conservative hotbed of a business school. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Affirmative, UM grad, but you are consistently wrong. Never touched the business school; LA degree; I was just able to see through the lefty brainwashing that you couldn't.

 

[Grizzoola]

Jesus you are stupid. Kill yourself please and don't have the government steal my money to pay for your burial.

And they reproduce and vote.....

What's scary is you reproduce & vote. No wonder this country is in trouble.

 

[kemajic]

We are going to continue in our economic doldrums as long as we listen to the Republicans trying to nickel & dime us back to where we were before the vaunted private sector screwed us, once again. The only way we will get back to where we were is thru MASSIVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING like in WWII. .

Oh my. That is really ripe. And as naive as it gets.

OK, I'll bite. Switching to modern times, since the 2007 democratic congress took over, the national debt has doubled. Over 7 trillion has been added to the national debt by your MASSIVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING. Now help us understand after 5 1/2 years what it has accomplished and how it's fixing the economy. Voters in Nov. 2010 recognized it as the mess it was and elected Rebpublicans to create checks and balances to this irresponsibility. Thank God. It was a strong message.

I suppose you also think MASSIVE TAX INCREASES will stimulate investment and job creation. How is that working in Europe? Or shall we just allow the national debt to continue to increase beyond 20 trillion, 30 trillion?? No consequences there, are there....

 

[Grizzoola]

You don't know how Neanderthal you are. Keep electing your fellow Neanderthals to Congress & above all the supreme Neanderthal, Mitt Romney and put this country back into what it was under Bush, that brought about this crisis in the first place. It's really sad you have the right to vote.

 

[casewinter13]

Grizzoola, rather than a deflection, I'd actually be really curious to hear your rebuttal on the way off topic subject at hand. Massive government spending is good, right? So, where exactly did Europe go wrong? Shouldn't the EU be a Utopian society by now? Break it down for me, man!

 

[indian-outlaw]

Grizzoola, rather than a deflection, I'd actually be really curious to hear your rebuttal on the way off topic subject at hand. Massive government spending is good, right? So, where exactly did Europe go wrong? Shouldn't the EU be a Utopian society by now? Break it down for me, man!

Deficit spending is a tool to stimulate the economy during severe downturns. The real crime is deficit spending during bubble times and economic booms like we had with GW. Got it kids!