O'Day lawyers up

[moose/squirrel]

I'm not so sure you can sue for "we changed our mind, and we are not going to renew your contract."

IMO O'Day should probably get a defense attorney.

Again, just to expose this goarmy guy, I'm responding to all his old posts.

Both of these comments are total BS.

Yeah, that's why people quit responding months ago, aren't you supposedly an attorney? Innocent question , don't you have clients to represent and work to do. Given that you are wasting your 300 dollars an hour time bringing up months old threads.

Note to self, if in need of a lawyer, cross one off the list :roll:

 

[GrizPony]

The U lost over a million because of O'Day's firing. Thanks Royce.

 

[Grizzoola]

Nit & pick all you want. Pres. Engstrom did the right thing, even though it has offended most of you. RE saw what was wrong w/ the program, and given the Penn State case, had to act. I don't know if RE's actions preceded or followed the Penn State affair, but a recent SI story about Penn State wrongfully included UM, because RE did the right thing in firing the HC and AD, unlike Penn State. You can thank your lucky stars RE did what he did, when he did it.

Stop this goddam whining and nit-picking. I don't care what happens w/ Pflu & O'Day. That's history. They are good guys who did not realize how morally corrupt UM's football culture became. RE had to let them go. It's also a clear signal to present and future coaches and players that the UM football program is not morally where it has been. You either shape up or ship out. Just ask coach Gregorak about his experience at UNLV.

Not a few eGrizzers are also morally corrupt. :ugeek:

 

[tnt]

Nit & pick all you want. Pres. Engstrom did the right thing, even though it has offended most of you. RE saw what was wrong w/ the program, and given the Penn State case, had to act. I don't know if RE's actions preceded or followed the Penn State affair, but a recent SI story about Penn State wrongfully included UM, because RE did the right thing in firing the HC and AD, unlike Penn State. You can thank your lucky stars RE did what he did, when he did it.

Stop this goddam whining and nit-picking. I don't care what happens w/ Pflu & O'Day. That's history. They are good guys who did not realize how morally corrupt UM's football culture became. RE had to let them go. It's also a clear signal to present and future coaches and players that the UM football program is not morally where it has been. You either shape up or ship out. Just ask coach Gregorak about his experience at UNLV.

Not a few eGrizzers are also morally corrupt. :ugeek:

I'm all about fresh starts and second chances but You make a point, what does it say about the football culture when a coach hires and and an AD approves the hire of a coach fired for questionable actions by of all people Bobby Hauck in of all places UNLV?

 

[62GRIZ]

Is it not "morally corrupt" to rubber stamp a verdict from a kangaroo court when you know the process and procedures used were morally and legally corrupt? RE will be gone when the resultant court case is decided. It will be devastating to the University's prestige and finances.

 

[62GRIZ]

TNT, it appears that you believe that any player or any coach should never play or work again if they have been accused of anything even if they are completely innocent!? We are in serious trouble as a society if anyone can be branded for life without being able to defend their innocence.

 

[BigSkyBears]

The U lost over a million because of O'Day's firing. Thanks Royce.

What does the University of Miami have to do with this?

 

[tnt]

TNT, it appears that you believe that any player or any coach should never play or work again if they have been accused of anything even if they are completely innocent!? We are in serious trouble as a society if anyone can be branded for life without being able to defend their innocence.

I guess I've always thought morality and character went beyond what a court determined. So yeah I guess I would question the morality of a man chosen to lead and train and shape young men who got drunk and stupid in a strip club. I realize stupid isn't a crime. I didn't deny him a second chance, just question if here and now was the best decision.

 

[grizdoc]

Is it not "morally corrupt" to rubber stamp a verdict from a kangaroo court when you know the process and procedures used were morally and legally corrupt? RE will be gone when the resultant court case is decided. It will be devastating to the University's prestige and finances.

Seriously? While I am proud of my degree from The University of Montana. Please remember, prior to Dennison taking on the presidency at UM, it was dubbed the "graveyard for college presidents" - plus most people view us as a DII program despite the fact FCS is D1. In the grand scheme of things, UM does not matter to the rest of the country. Finally, if there is a court case, I will guarantee it will not happen and the case will be settled for an undisclosed sum. Since, RE has not be fired yet, I doubt he will get fired for this.

Time to move on.

 

[MrTitleist]

Stop this goddam whining and nit-picking. I don't care what happens w/ Pflu & O'Day. That's history. They are good guys who did not realize how morally corrupt UM's football culture became. RE had to let them go. It's also a clear signal to present and future coaches and players that the UM football program is not morally where it has been. You either shape up or ship out. Just ask coach Gregorak about his experience at UNLV.

Can you please articulate for us how the UM football culture is morally corrupt?

 

[PlayerRep]

TNT, it appears that you believe that any player or any coach should never play or work again if they have been accused of anything even if they are completely innocent!? We are in serious trouble as a society if anyone can be branded for life without being able to defend their innocence.

I guess I've always thought morality and character went beyond what a court determined. So yeah I guess I would question the morality of a man chosen to lead and train and shape young men who got drunk and stupid in a strip club. I realize stupid isn't a crime. I didn't deny him a second chance, just question if here and now was the best decision.

He was not at the strip club or drunk. It was determined by video at the club that the person on the video was not him, and he had not been there. 10 or so of the guys he was with provided affidavits saying he was not drunk when everyone went home.

Why do you insist on lying? What you just said is defamation, would be actionable if court. You should edit your post immediately and apologize.

 

[PlayerRep]

Stop this goddam whining and nit-picking. I don't care what happens w/ Pflu & O'Day. That's history. They are good guys who did not realize how morally corrupt UM's football culture became. RE had to let them go. It's also a clear signal to present and future coaches and players that the UM football program is not morally where it has been. You either shape up or ship out. Just ask coach Gregorak about his experience at UNLV.

Can you please articulate for us how the UM football culture is morally corrupt?

He can't articulate it, and won't. He's part of the "culture of ignorance" regarding UM football. These jokers, jerks, haters and trolls just make broad conclusionary statements with no support or ability to articulate.

 

[indian-outlaw]

Nit & pick all you want. Pres. Engstrom did the right thing, even though it has offended most of you. RE saw what was wrong w/ the program, and given the Penn State case, had to act. I don't know if RE's actions preceded or followed the Penn State affair, but a recent SI story about Penn State wrongfully included UM, because RE did the right thing in firing the HC and AD, unlike Penn State. You can thank your lucky stars RE did what he did, when he did it.

Stop this goddam whining and nit-picking. I don't care what happens w/ Pflu & O'Day. That's history. They are good guys who did not realize how morally corrupt UM's football culture became. RE had to let them go. It's also a clear signal to present and future coaches and players that the UM football program is not morally where it has been. You either shape up or ship out. Just ask coach Gregorak about his experience at UNLV.

Not a few eGrizzers are also morally corrupt. :ugeek:

at least there are a few people out there that get it. It gives me some hope that we will eventually get through this.

 

[Grizzoola]

Stop this goddam whining and nit-picking. I don't care what happens w/ Pflu & O'Day. That's history. They are good guys who did not realize how morally corrupt UM's football culture became. RE had to let them go. It's also a clear signal to present and future coaches and players that the UM football program is not morally where it has been. You either shape up or ship out. Just ask coach Gregorak about his experience at UNLV.

Can you please articulate for us how the UM football culture is morally corrupt?

Don't play the innocent. You know very well what I'm talking about. It's been on this board, the Kaimin, and local, if not national media for years. If the Griz football program had not been morally corrupt, Pflu and O'Day would still have their jobs.

 

[PlayerRep]

Stop this goddam whining and nit-picking. I don't care what happens w/ Pflu & O'Day. That's history. They are good guys who did not realize how morally corrupt UM's football culture became. RE had to let them go. It's also a clear signal to present and future coaches and players that the UM football program is not morally where it has been. You either shape up or ship out. Just ask coach Gregorak about his experience at UNLV.

Can you please articulate for us how the UM football culture is morally corrupt?

Don't play the innocent. You know very well what I'm talking about. It's been on this board, the Kaimin, and local, if not national media for years. If the Griz football program had not been morally corrupt, Pflu and O'Day would still have their jobs.

Answer the question; don't avoid it. Stop making conclusionary statements, if you can't provide support for them.

 

[Spanky]

Grizzoola: Engstrom took the easy way out by firing the two gentlemen. We won't even talk about the unprofessional manner in which they were fired in the same room together. Did anyone have to be fired? Why is Engstrom being paid his salary? Isn't he the CEO of UM. Shouldn't he work with his key people and attempt to resolve the problems without creating utter chaos which has resulted from his actions. No, I don't think Engstrom should be defended as he shouldn't have been hired in the beginning. He was the Dennison back room selection....let's see what the final tab will be for UM resulting from Engstrom's decisions.

 

[Grisly Fan]

Nit & pick all you want. Pres. Engstrom did the right thing, even though it has offended most of you. RE saw what was wrong w/ the program, and given the Penn State case, had to act. I don't know if RE's actions preceded or followed the Penn State affair, but a recent SI story about Penn State wrongfully included UM, because RE did the right thing in firing the HC and AD, unlike Penn State. You can thank your lucky stars RE did what he did, when he did it.

Stop this goddam whining and nit-picking. I don't care what happens w/ Pflu & O'Day. That's history. They are good guys who did not realize how morally corrupt UM's football culture became. RE had to let them go. It's also a clear signal to present and future coaches and players that the UM football program is not morally where it has been. You either shape up or ship out. Just ask coach Gregorak about his experience at UNLV.

Not a few eGrizzers are also morally corrupt. :ugeek:

So then D2, based on your assertion you will then have to agree that Bobby Hauck either began or at least perpetuated and probably abetted this "corruption". RIght?

 

[Grizzoola]

Nit & pick all you want. Pres. Engstrom did the right thing, even though it has offended most of you. RE saw what was wrong w/ the program, and given the Penn State case, had to act. I don't know if RE's actions preceded or followed the Penn State affair, but a recent SI story about Penn State wrongfully included UM, because RE did the right thing in firing the HC and AD, unlike Penn State. You can thank your lucky stars RE did what he did, when he did it.

Stop this goddam whining and nit-picking. I don't care what happens w/ Pflu & O'Day. That's history. They are good guys who did not realize how morally corrupt UM's football culture became. RE had to let them go. It's also a clear signal to present and future coaches and players that the UM football program is not morally where it has been. You either shape up or ship out. Just ask coach Gregorak about his experience at UNLV.

Not a few eGrizzers are also morally corrupt. :ugeek:

So then D2, based on your assertion you will then have to agree that Bobby Hauck either began or at least perpetuated and probably abetted this "corruption". RIght?

If BH had still been around, he'd have been fired. If Joe Glenn were still here, he'd have been fired. Get it?

 

[MrTitleist]

Stop this goddam whining and nit-picking. I don't care what happens w/ Pflu & O'Day. That's history. They are good guys who did not realize how morally corrupt UM's football culture became. RE had to let them go. It's also a clear signal to present and future coaches and players that the UM football program is not morally where it has been. You either shape up or ship out. Just ask coach Gregorak about his experience at UNLV.

Can you please articulate for us how the UM football culture is morally corrupt?

Don't play the innocent. You know very well what I'm talking about. It's been on this board, the Kaimin, and local, if not national media for years. If the Griz football program had not been morally corrupt, Pflu and O'Day would still have their jobs.

Still waiting for you to explain to us how the Griz football program is morally corrupt....

 

[Grisly Fan]

Nit & pick all you want. Pres. Engstrom did the right thing, even though it has offended most of you. RE saw what was wrong w/ the program, and given the Penn State case, had to act. I don't know if RE's actions preceded or followed the Penn State affair, but a recent SI story about Penn State wrongfully included UM, because RE did the right thing in firing the HC and AD, unlike Penn State. You can thank your lucky stars RE did what he did, when he did it.

Stop this goddam whining and nit-picking. I don't care what happens w/ Pflu & O'Day. That's history. They are good guys who did not realize how morally corrupt UM's football culture became. RE had to let them go. It's also a clear signal to present and future coaches and players that the UM football program is not morally where it has been. You either shape up or ship out. Just ask coach Gregorak about his experience at UNLV.

Not a few eGrizzers are also morally corrupt. :ugeek:

So then D2, based on your assertion you will then have to agree that Bobby Hauck either began or at least perpetuated and probably abetted this "corruption". RIght?

If BH had still been around, he'd have been fired. If Joe Glenn were still here, he'd have been fired. Get it?

No, actually I don't "get it" because I don't agree with your premise. I don't think anyone should have been fired unless it had happened a long time ago, especially on Hauck's watch. I might agree that changes needed to be made but at this point firing the coach and the AD sure look like a piece of misdirection rather than an attempt to solve any particular problem. I will continue to believe this until facts are made public that prove otherwise.