O-Line improvement

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Soldiergriz in July:

"There is no evidence there will be improvement to the unit this season. None."

That was such a dumb and wrong statement.

In July there was no such evidence, tool bag.
SMH.

Let's see how they do against Weber and the cats. Last time they played an elite FCS d-line (sac st), they didn't perform well.

Still a work in progress.

In July, there was all kinds of evidence that the o-line would improve this year, which I provided. New recruits, new JC transfers, injured player or players back, good spring ball improvement, gains in the And weight room, positive comments from coaches, players, and parents. You just ignored all of that. nd obviously don't understand what the words "evidence [that] there will be improvement" even mean.

And you are too stubborn, or too stupid, to just admit that you were wrong.

And, you offend seem to show that you don't understand much about the game of football.

Playa....are you really an attorney? Because you dont type or spell like you would often see from attorneys.....granted I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and consider that were all just talking shit on an online message board...haha

You DO argue like one hahaha

 

[fencer24]

Stats say one thing

Eyes say the same thing... they have improved and the scary thing is they are still young and will get even better.

This entire team is unbeilvably young. Theres so much to be excited for in the future of this team.

Can anyone remember a Griz team that has played so many freshman and sophomores??? I cant

Exactly! I am just so damned happy with the team right now, but you know that they are going to be available next year and most of them the year after that.

 

[Mousegriz]

2 of 5 OL starters didn't have scholarships in July. Where is this year's OL without those two?

I believe they were on the team this summer, wtf does scholarships have to do with it .

Just an observation. 40% of the OL starters were either not yet committed or walk-ons in July.

Who wasn't committed in July? Mallory commitment was tweeted on July 16th.

Even is this is true, does it matter? No....even "if"! The point is that Hauck et al were working on improving the o-line since before last season was over. Multiple steps were taking. The improvement was evident in spring ball and has continued. My observation is simply that two OL starters weren't "evident" in spring ball. I feel OL has improved quite a bit this year. Hauck et al had to be working on improving last years' line.....duh? Multiple steps better have been "taken"...three big steps were bringing in Pillans, Mallory and turning Cook into an OL.

 

[Missoula223]

The O-Line has improved dramatically, not just since last year but the start of this year. That being said, I don't understand why Sacto was able to bring as much heat as they did. Every other team that has been listed as having an outstanding front seven never seemed to have the success that Sac did. Was it the scheme, or was it the talent or both?
Any answers would be appreciated.

When you get a lead on a team, you cause them to be 1 dimensional, and can dial up pressures you wouldn't use if you had to be ready to stop the run as well. Not to take anything away from Andy Thompson, but when you know a team has to throw, you can be more aggressive. That and Sac's D line was fast.

 

[Htowngriz]

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Missoula223]

The O-Line has improved dramatically, not just since last year but the start of this year. That being said, I don't understand why Sacto was able to bring as much heat as they did. Every other team that has been listed as having an outstanding front seven never seemed to have the success that Sac did. Was it the scheme, or was it the talent or both?
Any answers would be appreciated.

When you get a lead on a team, you cause them to be 1 dimensional, and can dial up pressures you wouldn't use if you had to be ready to stop the run as well. Not to take anything away from Andy Thompson, but when you know a team has to throw, you can be more aggressive. That and Sac's D line was fast.

These same pressures are the ones coaches often use in 3rd and 7+ situations. That's why every DC wants to get teams into 3rd and long. You can run pressures that are dicey against the run.

This is also why some OCs run simple pin and pull schemes in those situations. They know a certain pressure is coming, and they can block it as a run and maybe get the 1st, as opposed to taking a 5 step drop and likely getting sacked. Regardless, fans massacre OCs when they run the ball on 3rd and long, but often there's merit to it.

 

[PlayerRep]

I believe they were on the team this summer, wtf does scholarships have to do with it .

Just an observation. 40% of the OL starters were either not yet committed or walk-ons in July.

Who wasn't committed in July? Mallory commitment was tweeted on July 16th.

Even is this is true, does it matter? No....even "if"! The point is that Hauck et al were working on improving the o-line since before last season was over. Multiple steps were taking. The improvement was evident in spring ball and has continued. My observation is simply that two OL starters weren't "evident" in spring ball. I feel OL has improved quite a bit this year. Hauck et al had to be working on improving last years' line.....duh? Multiple steps better have been "taken"...three big steps were bringing in Pillans, Mallory and turning Cook into an OL.

Pillans committed in Dec. 2018.

Mallory committed on July 16, 2019.

Cook transferred to Montana in 2018.

Do you consider Mariani and Anderson to be lesser players because they were walkons?

 

[TCCGRIZ]

Soldiergriz in July:

"There is no evidence there will be improvement to the unit this season. None."

That was such a dumb and wrong statement.

2 of 5 OL starters didn't have scholarships in July. Where is this year's OL without those two?

I believe they were on the team this summer, wtf does scholarships have to do with it .

Just an observation. 40% of the OL starters were either not yet committed or walk-ons in July.

Again what does a scholarship have to do with it.
Plus, walk ons are part of the team . Am I missing something here ???

 

[TCCGRIZ]

Just an observation. 40% of the OL starters were either not yet committed or walk-ons in July.

Who wasn't committed in July? Mallory commitment was tweeted on July 16th.

Even is this is true, does it matter? No....even "if"! The point is that Hauck et al were working on improving the o-line since before last season was over. Multiple steps were taking. The improvement was evident in spring ball and has continued. My observation is simply that two OL starters weren't "evident" in spring ball. I feel OL has improved quite a bit this year. Hauck et al had to be working on improving last years' line.....duh? Multiple steps better have been "taken"...three big steps were bringing in Pillans, Mallory and turning Cook into an OL.

Pillans committed in Dec. 2018.

Mallory committed on July 16, 2019.

Cook transferred to Montana in 2018.

Do you consider Mariani and Anderson to be lesser players because they were walkons?

Quit with the facts Playerrep you are embarrassing people lol

 

[Mousegriz]

Just an observation. 40% of the OL starters were either not yet committed or walk-ons in July.

Who wasn't committed in July? Mallory commitment was tweeted on July 16th.

Even is this is true, does it matter? No....even "if"! The point is that Hauck et al were working on improving the o-line since before last season was over. Multiple steps were taking. The improvement was evident in spring ball and has continued. My observation is simply that two OL starters weren't "evident" in spring ball. I feel OL has improved quite a bit this year. Hauck et al had to be working on improving last years' line.....duh? Multiple steps better have been "taken"...three big steps were bringing in Pillans, Mallory and turning Cook into an OL.

Pillans committed in Dec. 2018. Correct....this was after last season ended

Mallory committed on July 16, 2019. Correct...this was after last season ended.

Cook transferred to Montana in 2018. Correct...not sure if before or after last season ended.

Do you consider Mariani and Anderson to be lesser players because they were walkons? No. Where did I say I considered walkons "lesser players"? My observation has nothing to do with walkons or 4 star blue chips. If Hauck was working on OL improvement even before last season ended, it's 3 players who weren't factors at all last season (and two returning seniors) that are the keys to the OL turnaround this season. The younger starters from last year lost their starting positions to 3 new guys. They didn't get bigger enough stronger enough more skilled enough or coached up enough in the off season to retain their positions.

Why can't guy make an observation and post without you turning it into an argument? The OL has improved this season. It better have! I'm happy that it has. You're happy that it has.

 

[PlayerRep]

Who wasn't committed in July? Mallory commitment was tweeted on July 16th.

Even is this is true, does it matter? No....even "if"! The point is that Hauck et al were working on improving the o-line since before last season was over. Multiple steps were taking. The improvement was evident in spring ball and has continued. My observation is simply that two OL starters weren't "evident" in spring ball. I feel OL has improved quite a bit this year. Hauck et al had to be working on improving last years' line.....duh? Multiple steps better have been "taken"...three big steps were bringing in Pillans, Mallory and turning Cook into an OL.

Pillans committed in Dec. 2018. Correct....this was after last season ended

Mallory committed on July 16, 2019. Correct...this was after last season ended.

Cook transferred to Montana in 2018. Correct...not sure if before or after last season ended.

Do you consider Mariani and Anderson to be lesser players because they were walkons? No. Where did I say I considered walkons "lesser players"? My observation has nothing to do with walkons or 4 star blue chips. If Hauck was working on OL improvement even before last season ended, it's 3 players who weren't factors at all last season (and two returning seniors) that are the keys to the OL turnaround this season. The younger starters from last year lost their starting positions to 3 new guys. They didn't get bigger enough stronger enough more skilled enough or coached up enough in the off season to retain their positions.

Why can't guy make an observation and post without you turning it into an argument? The OL has improved this season. It better have! I'm happy that it has. You're happy that it has.

The improved o-line this season is the result of about 10 players, not just starters. Cook was on the team a year ago, and getting stronger and coached up. One starter from past years was getting healed up, so he could start again after not playing much last year. 3 o-lineman lost considerable weight in the offseason. And presumably got stronger. New frosh were recruited, along with the two JCS. All of what I said last summer.

Why do you have to disagree with me or bring up irrelevant stuff, and provoke little "fights"? You are the cause of the spats, not me. Look in the mirror. Also, learn how to use the quote function.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Just an observation. 40% of the OL starters were either not yet committed or walk-ons in July.

Who wasn't committed in July? Mallory commitment was tweeted on July 16th.

Even is this is true, does it matter? No....even "if"! The point is that Hauck et al were working on improving the o-line since before last season was over. Multiple steps were taking. The improvement was evident in spring ball and has continued. My observation is simply that two OL starters weren't "evident" in spring ball. I feel OL has improved quite a bit this year. Hauck et al had to be working on improving last years' line.....duh? Multiple steps better have been "taken"...three big steps were bringing in Pillans, Mallory and turning Cook into an OL.

Pillans committed in Dec. 2018.

Mallory committed on July 16, 2019.

Cook transferred to Montana in 2018.

Do you consider Mariani and Anderson to be lesser players because they were walkons?

Their capacity to contribute in a meaningful way was unknown in July...Mallory and Cook didn't even start in the opener. Can't recall if Pillans did.

Not sure what Griz legends Mariani or Anderson has to do with this year's o-line?

The O-line is improved and improving, thankfully. Are they a deep playoff-run caliber line? Who knows?

 

[PlayerRep]

Who wasn't committed in July? Mallory commitment was tweeted on July 16th.

Even is this is true, does it matter? No....even "if"! The point is that Hauck et al were working on improving the o-line since before last season was over. Multiple steps were taking. The improvement was evident in spring ball and has continued. My observation is simply that two OL starters weren't "evident" in spring ball. I feel OL has improved quite a bit this year. Hauck et al had to be working on improving last years' line.....duh? Multiple steps better have been "taken"...three big steps were bringing in Pillans, Mallory and turning Cook into an OL.

Pillans committed in Dec. 2018.

Mallory committed on July 16, 2019.

Cook transferred to Montana in 2018.

Do you consider Mariani and Anderson to be lesser players because they were walkons?

Their capacity to contribute in a meaningful way was unknown in July...Mallory and Cook didn't even start in the opener. Can't recall if Pillans did.

Not sure what Griz legends Mariani or Anderson has to do with this year's o-line?

The O-line is improved and improving, thankfully. Are they a deep playoff-run caliber line? Who knows?

Actually, the capacity of those to contribute was known in July. I talked to Germer and others at my big annual party in early to mid summer. They knew. That's why I knew.

Mariani and Anderson were once walk-ons, just like some of the o-line.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Pillans committed in Dec. 2018.

Mallory committed on July 16, 2019.

Cook transferred to Montana in 2018.

Do you consider Mariani and Anderson to be lesser players because they were walkons?

Their capacity to contribute in a meaningful way was unknown in July...Mallory and Cook didn't even start in the opener. Can't recall if Pillans did.

Not sure what Griz legends Mariani or Anderson has to do with this year's o-line?

The O-line is improved and improving, thankfully. Are they a deep playoff-run caliber line? Who knows?

Actually, the capacity of those to contribute was known in July. I talked to Germer and others at my big annual party in early to mid summer. They knew. That's why I knew.

Sure thing. :roll:

 

[MTGRZ]

I came here to read about the improved offensive line. I should have known it would turn into a pissing match between PR and Soldier....good to see some things haven't changed. Good work, folks!

 

[yogi]

this is why we can't have a nice chat room, sigh, your friend, yogi

 

[TCCGRIZ]

I came here to read about the improved offensive line. I should have known it would turn into a pissing match between PR and Soldier....good to see some things haven't changed. Good work, folks!

Pretty much correct lol. Just the norm.
Playerrep stating facts, Soldier stating his opinion .

 

[PlayerRep]

I came here to read about the improved offensive line. I should have known it would turn into a pissing match between PR and Soldier....good to see some things haven't changed. Good work, folks!

No pissing match. Soldier forfeited his ability to post on the o-line earlier this year, by making too many absurd statements.

Mtgriz, had you just watched my posts, you would have known Sneed's first spring that he was going to be an outstanding qb, known last spring that Knight was going to be the starter and very good, and known last summer that there were many signs of coming improvement on the o-line.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I have reason to believe the O Line will be even better next year.

 

[grizindabox]

Pillans committed in Dec. 2018.

Mallory committed on July 16, 2019.

Cook transferred to Montana in 2018.

Do you consider Mariani and Anderson to be lesser players because they were walkons?

Their capacity to contribute in a meaningful way was unknown in July...Mallory and Cook didn't even start in the opener. Can't recall if Pillans did.

Not sure what Griz legends Mariani or Anderson has to do with this year's o-line?

The O-line is improved and improving, thankfully. Are they a deep playoff-run caliber line? Who knows?

Actually, the capacity of those to contribute was known in July. I talked to Germer and others at my big annual party in early to mid summer. They knew. That's why I knew.

Sure thing. :roll:

The evidence was there...duh...