Not a popular view, but....

[PlayerRep]

OK. I was on the sidelines for a game when Bobby was coaching. I remember him talking to one of his coordinators on the headset. I remember him saying... in Bobby's own way... change the F'n 3rd down package as it has not worked for the entire 1st F'n half. Get it done.

And what is your point?

The head coach did his job. He saw when something was not working and told his staff to make some adjustments.

Great. What did they do?

Do you think Stitt didn't say anything to his coaches?

 

[first11]

Talent is here.

Successful coaches(leadership) create an environment whereupon players can utilize their skills.

 

[putter]

Did you read the article? Stitt said you go into the game with a plan and let your coaches coach. You have to trust them but he then said that if a team is hurting you you have to make adjustments to take that away....

 

[first11]

Yup

Last Saturdays adjustments lacking apparently.

 

[stilwtrgrizz]

OK. I was on the sidelines for a game when Bobby was coaching. I remember him talking to one of his coordinators on the headset. I remember him saying... in Bobby's own way... change the F'n 3rd down package as it has not worked for the entire 1st F'n half. Get it done.

There you go..... IMHO, that is what a HEAD coach does................. :clap: :clap:

 

[garizzalies]

I think there is talent on this team. Stitt just teed himself up to be roasted by saying you go into a game with a plan and let your coachs coach. He just let his D Coordinator game plan his way to giving up 42 second half points without the head coach stepping in when it was obvious it was not working.

So what should the head coach have done? Would love to see a specific suggestion?

Tackle better, break up more passes, and get more sacks/pressure is not being specific.

Manage the game properly with situational football. The tempo and 4th down is specific enough on O; the late calls into the D huddle and lack of adjustment on D was even worse. Dude's got one or two formations and one gear and it usually leads to a crash. The better question is how does the tempo guru get beat by tempo? Hauck drove me nuts sometimes but he had a way of doing whatever it took to win: run, pass, fast, slow, pressure, no pressure--didn't matter. Sampson v Idaho!! Talent being relatively equal, the one who adjusts to control the game, wins. Everyone in the stadium was thinking the same thing. Just like putter said, I can imagine booby yelling at Paulson, "do something about that fucking pass in the flat!!" I know I screamed it at least 10 times.

Oh and FTR, the premise of this thread is DAF. We got like the highest state per capita % of NFLers. Plus what Sam said. I have a much more unpopular view on a difference topic but I've been trying to bite my tongue.

 

[GrizLA]

GrizLA should be back soon with some South Carolina anecdote about high school football and recruiting.

Wofford, Coastal Carolina.....what more can be said...

 

[cmtgrizzly]

LA, I understand you are responding to another post meant to provoke but in reality those two programs have has nowhere near the success of UM. Montana has fantastic athletes. Do we have fewer? Yes because we have fewer people.

 

[GrizLA]

LA, I understand you are responding to another post meant to provoke but in reality those two programs have has nowhere near the success of UM. Montana has fantastic athletes. Do we have fewer? Yes because we have fewer people.

Yes, I was responding to the usual guy who tries to provoke and my point was that those two programs have had success travelling to Missoula in the dead of winter and leaving with victories. There are great talents in Montana but they have to be spread between UM, MSU, Mt Tech, Carroll, Eastern, Western, and an occasional FBS school. Here, the population is roughly 5 million yet the FCS schools still manage to get kids from schools that are very good. I have 13 high schools within a 50 mile radius whose play is truly outstanding for high school play. There is a reason Clemson wins..and USC, and this year, Wofford, Citadel, Charleston Southern, these schools have traditions, too, and compete with Coastal, App State, Ga. South. for talent. The level of competition in the South for football players is outstanding and the coaches are old school. And, for most of the season, the weather is horrible with heat, humidity and mosquitoes...

 

[CDAGRIZ]

LA, I understand you are responding to another post meant to provoke but in reality those two programs have has nowhere near the success of UM. Montana has fantastic athletes. Do we have fewer? Yes because we have fewer people.

Yes, I was responding to the usual guy who tries to provoke and my point was that those two programs have had success travelling to Missoula in the dead of winter and leaving with victories. There are great talents in Montana but they have to be spread between UM, MSU, Mt Tech, Carroll, Eastern, Western, and an occasional FBS school. Here, the population is roughly 5 million yet the FCS schools still manage to get kids from schools that are very good. I have 13 high schools within a 50 mile radius whose play is truly outstanding for high school play. There is a reason Clemson wins..and USC, and this year, Wofford, Citadel, Charleston Southern, these schools have traditions, too, and compete with Coastal, App State, Ga. South. for talent. The level of competition in the South for football players is outstanding and the coaches are old school. And, for most of the season, the weather is horrible with heat, humidity and mosquitoes...

I thought you were a SoCal guy who loved Pasadena . . .

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

LA, I understand you are responding to another post meant to provoke but in reality those two programs have has nowhere near the success of UM. Montana has fantastic athletes. Do we have fewer? Yes because we have fewer people.

Yes, I was responding to the usual guy who tries to provoke and my point was that those two programs have had success travelling to Missoula in the dead of winter and leaving with victories. There are great talents in Montana but they have to be spread between UM, MSU, Mt Tech, Carroll, Eastern, Western, and an occasional FBS school. Here, the population is roughly 5 million yet the FCS schools still manage to get kids from schools that are very good. I have 13 high schools within a 50 mile radius whose play is truly outstanding for high school play. There is a reason Clemson wins..and USC, and this year, Wofford, Citadel, Charleston Southern, these schools have traditions, too, and compete with Coastal, App State, Ga. South. for talent. The level of competition in the South for football players is outstanding and the coaches are old school. And, for most of the season, the weather is horrible with heat, humidity and mosquitoes...

Just curious,when did the old EMC start the football program back up?

 

[GrizLA]

LA, I understand you are responding to another post meant to provoke but in reality those two programs have has nowhere near the success of UM. Montana has fantastic athletes. Do we have fewer? Yes because we have fewer people.

Yes, I was responding to the usual guy who tries to provoke and my point was that those two programs have had success travelling to Missoula in the dead of winter and leaving with victories. There are great talents in Montana but they have to be spread between UM, MSU, Mt Tech, Carroll, Eastern, Western, and an occasional FBS school. Here, the population is roughly 5 million yet the FCS schools still manage to get kids from schools that are very good. I have 13 high schools within a 50 mile radius whose play is truly outstanding for high school play. There is a reason Clemson wins..and USC, and this year, Wofford, Citadel, Charleston Southern, these schools have traditions, too, and compete with Coastal, App State, Ga. South. for talent. The level of competition in the South for football players is outstanding and the coaches are old school. And, for most of the season, the weather is horrible with heat, humidity and mosquitoes...

I thought you were a SoCal guy who loved Pasadena . . .

Sold that pile and moved to Palm Springs and have second home here. they made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

 

[GrizLA]

LA, I understand you are responding to another post meant to provoke but in reality those two programs have has nowhere near the success of UM. Montana has fantastic athletes. Do we have fewer? Yes because we have fewer people.

Yes, I was responding to the usual guy who tries to provoke and my point was that those two programs have had success travelling to Missoula in the dead of winter and leaving with victories. There are great talents in Montana but they have to be spread between UM, MSU, Mt Tech, Carroll, Eastern, Western, and an occasional FBS school. Here, the population is roughly 5 million yet the FCS schools still manage to get kids from schools that are very good. I have 13 high schools within a 50 mile radius whose play is truly outstanding for high school play. There is a reason Clemson wins..and USC, and this year, Wofford, Citadel, Charleston Southern, these schools have traditions, too, and compete with Coastal, App State, Ga. South. for talent. The level of competition in the South for football players is outstanding and the coaches are old school. And, for most of the season, the weather is horrible with heat, humidity and mosquitoes...

Just curious,when did the old EMC start the football program back up?

don't know, don't care...it is still a small base for so many schools.

 

[kemajic]

This is my view. The D should have continued not to give up the long pass and long play, and shut down the run. In addition, the D should have applied more pressure on the qb; stopped the swing passes; not let the qb get out of the pocket, run or find receivers; not let the receivers run so much after short passes; knocked down more passes; intercepted more passes; tackled better; and caused the receivers to drop more balls.

How they should have done those things, I have no clue. But I'm not a coach. It's their job. They make the big bucks. I would starve on what they make, but it's still the big bucks, or big enough to criticize everything they do that doesn't turn out to be perfect.

OK, we'll hold our hands in the air and hope for the best.

 

[daGrizJ]

Huh? We still recruit other states. We are still going after the same players in WA, OR, CA, etc... that EWU and other BSC and mid-major FBS programs are going after. Our struggles recently has absolutely nothing to do with the talent that is produced in-state. We only currently start 3 in-state kids on defense. We actually had better defenses when we started more in-state players in past years.

We have had a pretty good success rate with Montana players in the past. Most of the players we've put in the league the past few years were Montanan. A big portion of our All-Americans and All-Conference players were Montanan. The advantage of recruiting Montana is a lot of those fringe FBS players that are in-state really don't get the exposure to those FBS schools and coaches aren't going to travel to Montana to recruit them unless they are sure-fire FBS prospects. Same can be said about MSU. They have a young talented team with a lot of in-state prospects.

Recruiting in-state will continue to be a priority for both UM and MSU and the primary reason for that is because of the history of success those programs have with those players and the talent that is available.

Bottom line is that the coaches are going to grade out prospects and recruit the best talent they can with the scholarships they have available.

And........I would say....this staff has had a pretty damn good year recruiting the state this year. Gezz people, as the parent for of the recruits this weekend said, lighten up.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

LA, I understand you are responding to another post meant to provoke but in reality those two programs have has nowhere near the success of UM. Montana has fantastic athletes. Do we have fewer? Yes because we have fewer people.

Yes, I was responding to the usual guy who tries to provoke and my point was that those two programs have had success travelling to Missoula in the dead of winter and leaving with victories. There are great talents in Montana but they have to be spread between UM, MSU, Mt Tech, Carroll, Eastern, Western, and an occasional FBS school. Here, the population is roughly 5 million yet the FCS schools still manage to get kids from schools that are very good. I have 13 high schools within a 50 mile radius whose play is truly outstanding for high school play. There is a reason Clemson wins..and USC, and this year, Wofford, Citadel, Charleston Southern, these schools have traditions, too, and compete with Coastal, App State, Ga. South. for talent. The level of competition in the South for football players is outstanding and the coaches are old school. And, for most of the season, the weather is horrible with heat, humidity and mosquitoes...

Just curious,when did the old EMC start the football program back up?

don't know, don't care...it is still a small base for so many schools.

So you think that UM/MSU are recruiting against Tech, Carroll, and Western? And by the way, Eastern has both changed its name, in 1994 and dropped football....in 1978.