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Northern Colorado and the Athletic pinch...

Brother Bear

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It's not just Eastern Washington having to answer to faculty on supporting a football program in the Big Sigh Conference...

https://www.greeleytribune.com/news/why-does-unc-support-athletics-when-its-cutting-budget-and-staff/
 
Noco has no business playing football at the DI level.

They — along with Portland State — should drop football and focus on BB. If they really desire to remain DI, they could beg their way into the Big West or just play as independents. In either event, both programs and institutions would greatly benefit.
 
Brother Bear said:
It's not just Eastern Washington having to answer to faculty on supporting a football program in the Big Sigh Conference...

https://www.greeleytribune.com/news/why-does-unc-support-athletics-when-its-cutting-budget-and-staff/

That's a really good article. It carefully explains the financial reality of UNC athletics. It costs UNC $1.3 million in support from the university to have an athletic department. The president thinks that's a good investment and explains why. You can disagree, but you can't say he's blindly throwing $10 million out the window. It is interesting that a key part of the financial analysis is the tuition paid by partial scholarship athletes. That's $5-ish million that significantly closes the budget gap.
 
The educational and athletic landscape of the college world is shifting. Survival of the fittest seems more in play than ever. With recent ewu and UNC reports it certainly underscores the stress upon higher ed. Bigger will survive with relative ease and the rest of us will have to find creative ways to stay in the mix
 
EverettGriz said:
Noco has no business playing football at the DI level.

They — along with Portland State — should drop football and focus on BB. If they really desire to remain DI, they could beg their way into the Big West or just play as independents. In either event, both programs and institutions would greatly benefit.

at least NoCo has their own football stadium. PSU really has no long-term plans to ever have their own facility and playing at that high-school field in the suburbs is pathetic.
 
Zirg said:
EverettGriz said:
Noco has no business playing football at the DI level.

They — along with Portland State — should drop football and focus on BB. If they really desire to remain DI, they could beg their way into the Big West or just play as independents. In either event, both programs and institutions would greatly benefit.

at least NoCo has their own football stadium. PSU really has no long-term plans to ever have their own facility and playing at that high-school field in the suburbs is pathetic.

Concur.
 
Zirg said:
EverettGriz said:
Noco has no business playing football at the DI level.

They — along with Portland State — should drop football and focus on BB. If they really desire to remain DI, they could beg their way into the Big West or just play as independents. In either event, both programs and institutions would greatly benefit.

at least NoCo has their own football stadium. PSU really has no long-term plans to ever have their own facility and playing at that high-school field in the suburbs is pathetic.
NDSU does not have their own stadium.
 
kemajic said:
Zirg said:
EverettGriz said:
Noco has no business playing football at the DI level.

They — along with Portland State — should drop football and focus on BB. If they really desire to remain DI, they could beg their way into the Big West or just play as independents. In either event, both programs and institutions would greatly benefit.

at least NoCo has their own football stadium. PSU really has no long-term plans to ever have their own facility and playing at that high-school field in the suburbs is pathetic.
NDSU does not have their own stadium.

Now that, Sir, Is a good point.
 
I don't recall the reasons UNC decided to move up to FCS, but their reasoning seems to have done a 180 degree turn. Costs are higher, so if they find themselves unable to keep up, it would be only wise to move back down. Times change, and the scenarios envisioned did not pan out. Idaho moved back down, after the Sun Belt made them walk the plank and they found themselves with no more plank to walk. This may be the answer to the Fullertonization of the BSC. Financially induced attrition may ultimately shed some of the deadwood from the BSC. I hope the lesson will not be wasted on those Griz fans who still beat the drum for 'moving up.' That ship left the dock about ten years ago. :twocents:
 
tourist said:
I don't recall the reasons UNC decided to move up to FCS, but their reasoning seems to have done a 180 degree turn. Costs are higher, so if they find themselves unable to keep up, it would be only wise to move back down. Times change, and the scenarios envisioned did not pan out. Idaho moved back down, after the Sun Belt made them walk the plank and they found themselves with no more plank to walk. This may be the answer to the Fullertonization of the BSC. Financially induced attrition may ultimately shed some of the deadwood from the BSC. I hope the lesson will not be wasted on those Griz fans who still beat the drum for 'moving up.' That ship left the dock about ten years ago. :twocents:

When UNC made the jump to FCS (1AA back then), the football program was in much, much, better shape. The Bears played in the NCC with D2 powers such as SDSU, SDU, NDSU. All of the powers had intentions to move up at some point, and if UNC stayed, they probably would have had to play in the RMAC, and at that time UNC was way ahead of Mines, Colorado Mesa, etc.

The Bears were neck-and-neck with NDSU as far as getting talent. UNC had beaten the Bison 3 out of 4 years during the late 90's and early 2000s.

When we made the move however, there was not enough support from some of the "True Bluers" as some of the boosters were named. I think there was some major $$ withheld. Also, Joe Glenn had left for Montana just before the transition and that hurt.

The larger picture though is state-funding for all public universities is severely hampered by what is called the Tax Payers Bill of Rights, or TABOR
.https://leg.colorado.gov/agencies/legislative-council-staff/tabor

Besides football the move has been a success. The school has had 11 NCAA tournament appearances, 18 conference championships, 9 All-Americans, 17 Academic All-Americans, 47 major conference awards, all in the past decade alone.
 
Has it been a success, though, BSB? No football championships; no playoff appearances; One BB title.

Look, I believe noco is very well positioned to be a lower-tier DI program in basketball and the olympic sports. But the university has no business playing football at the DI level. Drop the program and focus on BB.
 
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