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No Way JJ Can Be Convicted
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tnt. said:
Grisly Fan
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Maybe I'll regret asking but what exactly are you trying to evoke by repeatedly mentioning that you have X number of adopted children? Pity? Sympathy? Reverence? How about "choice"? If you think it somehow means that you know more about human behavior than anyone else then you are self-deluded. And if you are actually an attorney and not someone who simply slept at a Holiday Inn Express then I sure wish I knew your name so as to be able to avoid employing you should the need arise. Your view of the world is hopelessly outdated.tnt. said:
Dunno who tnt. is, but it isn't me. Just further proof the "falthful" are indeed disturbed, and a few other posters unable to recognize the difference....
The question is who is tnt. ???? Is he as clever as he thinks or one of the lesser intelligent types who can't get their minds around the fact there will be a trial. And all their "skillful high school debate techniques" won't serve them quite so well as it does here.
The question is who is tnt. ???? Is he as clever as he thinks or one of the lesser intelligent types who can't get their minds around the fact there will be a trial. And all their "skillful high school debate techniques" won't serve them quite so well as it does here.
GrizPony
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Grisly Fan said:Maybe I'll regret asking but what exactly are you trying to evoke by repeatedly mentioning that you have X number of adopted children? Pity? Sympathy? Reverence? How about "choice"? If you think it somehow means that you know more about human behavior than anyone else then you are self-deluded. And if you are actually an attorney and not someone who simply slept at a Holiday Inn Express then I sure wish I knew your name so as to be able to avoid employing you should the need arise. Your view of the world is hopelessly outdated.tnt. said:
This!
Too bad I don't have a eye doc child for you crack......
The only thing proven is some serious flaws in your deductive skills the inability to see a (.) or read a post count.
But then maybe you are the clever one......
In any event, I'm flattered to have had such an impact on a few all though this probably isn't the best place for children......
The only thing proven is some serious flaws in your deductive skills the inability to see a (.) or read a post count.
But then maybe you are the clever one......
In any event, I'm flattered to have had such an impact on a few all though this probably isn't the best place for children......
ALPHAGRIZ1
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I did once
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UMGriz75
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tnt said:
No, just you.
"No" in this case means "no."
"Just" in this case means a limited sample.
"You" in this case limits the sample to "you."
When you decide you want to argue about the meaning of all of those words -- "all" meaning "all" -- you can to go to trial on that.
PTGrizzly said:
PT has couple of brain cells.
See what I did there?
So crack, you exactly the order they will call the witnesses, and that none of the "hard questions" will be adressed prior to her being called. or the witness prepped. I have suggested there are plenty of ways for the prosecution to go and certainly not only one. Get used to it
Lets do one at a time:
When did you first think you might of been sending mixed signals:
possibility 1: "when I kept playing it over and over in my mind first thinking no, it couldn't have happened, he just came over to watch movies and we were making out. I told him not tonight. Then I realized it did happen, so it must have been my fault, eventually I realized when wouldn't talk to me or even come to get the watch his sister gave him that all he wanted that night was sex. IUt wasn't my fault and nothing would have changed his mind.......
possibility 2: " I realized this wasn't about getting together to get acquainted anything me flirting anything else when he was holding me down with his forearm on my chest to gain entry. Then I realized it was all about his needs when after penetrating me from on top he turned me over. I didn't know whether he just wanted to humiliate me by doing it doggy style, or whether he wanted to do it anally. Fortunately, I never found out as he ejaculated before he could do either. He went to the bathroom, to clean up, and I went to the kitchen in shock at what just happened. He was so cavalier assuming what he had done and tried to do to me was "normal" when he asked me to take him home I did. I just wanted it over - all of it, I wasn't even sure what happened. For days I didn't know what to do what to say who to say it to. Some days were great some days weren't. Its still like that.........
There are other possibilities of course, but the grueling cross-examination you are all expecting will be tremendously toned down. Everytime the defense starts to get on a roll, there will be an objection. from badgering to leading. Thats if it gets started right away more than likley the girl will be called towards the end of the day. her testimony will be drawn out so as to be finished the next day giving the jury plenty of time to visualize what happened. Of course the police reports, physical evidence etc will in part been given. at worst the cross will happen the next day or after a break only to be followed with more physical and professional evidence to cement the circumstances.
The prosecution will cross the defense witnesses too. How do you know her state off mind etc. What were you talking about. Do you often (never) have lunch? and on it will go.
Beyond a reasonable doubt,who knows??? Will there always be a doubt?
This needs settled OUT of court.
Lets do one at a time:
When did you first think you might of been sending mixed signals:
possibility 1: "when I kept playing it over and over in my mind first thinking no, it couldn't have happened, he just came over to watch movies and we were making out. I told him not tonight. Then I realized it did happen, so it must have been my fault, eventually I realized when wouldn't talk to me or even come to get the watch his sister gave him that all he wanted that night was sex. IUt wasn't my fault and nothing would have changed his mind.......
possibility 2: " I realized this wasn't about getting together to get acquainted anything me flirting anything else when he was holding me down with his forearm on my chest to gain entry. Then I realized it was all about his needs when after penetrating me from on top he turned me over. I didn't know whether he just wanted to humiliate me by doing it doggy style, or whether he wanted to do it anally. Fortunately, I never found out as he ejaculated before he could do either. He went to the bathroom, to clean up, and I went to the kitchen in shock at what just happened. He was so cavalier assuming what he had done and tried to do to me was "normal" when he asked me to take him home I did. I just wanted it over - all of it, I wasn't even sure what happened. For days I didn't know what to do what to say who to say it to. Some days were great some days weren't. Its still like that.........
There are other possibilities of course, but the grueling cross-examination you are all expecting will be tremendously toned down. Everytime the defense starts to get on a roll, there will be an objection. from badgering to leading. Thats if it gets started right away more than likley the girl will be called towards the end of the day. her testimony will be drawn out so as to be finished the next day giving the jury plenty of time to visualize what happened. Of course the police reports, physical evidence etc will in part been given. at worst the cross will happen the next day or after a break only to be followed with more physical and professional evidence to cement the circumstances.
The prosecution will cross the defense witnesses too. How do you know her state off mind etc. What were you talking about. Do you often (never) have lunch? and on it will go.
Beyond a reasonable doubt,who knows??? Will there always be a doubt?
This needs settled OUT of court.
