No Way JJ Can Be Convicted

[AZGrizFan]

Actually the ONLY one who has referred to JJ as an alcohol fueled predator is YOU.

Why are you falsifying this whole discussion?

tnt: With in those 'texts" I am told, there is a pretty clear picture of who/what JJ knew was dealing with, and it ain't pretty, he moves from a good guy helping make a girls day, to very nearly a predator when fueled with alcohol. JJ does have some history as being a "different person" when drinking. He also has some baggage from high school according a teacher I know from there. He likes getting his way.

NONE of this appears in this case record. Now, you are making claims that someone else said what you said in the quoted portion, on this thread, pretending you DIDN'T say it. What gives?

This is like Groundhog Day. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Grisly Fan]

Well gosh darn it 75, you went and changed "very nearly a predator when fueled with alcohol" to a "alcohol fueled predator". Even you must be able to tell that these two things are COMPLETELY different...

signed trinitrotoluene

 

[granitegriz]

PR: what's up with the prosecution not handing over the evidence to defense and has the prosecutor missed deadlines set by the judge? Seems like they are wanting the judge to dismiss the case for them to take some heat off their office. Then they can always "claim" it was just the judge being unreasonable.

 

[AZDoc]

Actually the ONLY one who has referred to JJ as an alcohol fueled predator is YOU.

Why are you falsifying this whole discussion?

tnt: With in those 'texts" I am told, there is a pretty clear picture of who/what JJ knew was dealing with, and it ain't pretty, he moves from a good guy helping make a girls day, to very nearly a predator when fueled with alcohol. JJ does have some history as being a "different person" when drinking. He also has some baggage from high school according a teacher I know from there. He likes getting his way.

NONE of this appears in this case record. Now, you are making claims that someone else said what you said in the quoted portion, on this thread, pretending you DIDN'T say it. What gives?

This is like Groundhog Day. :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's how we get to 30 pages!!!

 

[PlayerRep]

PR: what's up with the prosecution not handing over the evidence to defense and has the prosecutor missed deadlines set by the judge? Seems like they are wanting the judge to dismiss the case for them to take some heat off their office. Then they can always "claim" it was just the judge being unreasonable.

I don't know, and don't know this area. Perhaps my alter-ego, 75, or grizfromhel, or some of the other lawyers who post, would know.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Actually the ONLY one who has referred to JJ as an alcohol fueled predator is YOU.

Why are you falsifying this whole discussion?

tnt: With in those 'texts" I am told, there is a pretty clear picture of who/what JJ knew was dealing with, and it ain't pretty, he moves from a good guy helping make a girls day, to very nearly a predator when fueled with alcohol. JJ does have some history as being a "different person" when drinking. He also has some baggage from high school according a teacher I know from there. He likes getting his way.

NONE of this appears in this case record. Now, you are making claims that someone else said what you said in the quoted portion, on this thread, pretending you DIDN'T say it. What gives?

This is like Groundhog Day. :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's how we get to 30 pages!!!

I don't want to let Umista down. :thumb:

 

[argh!]

Jeez, this is the internet. People discuss, surmise, speculate, analyze, guess, etc. I suppose everyone is welcome to suggest how other posters should, and shouldn't, post, but I don't think it will do much good. I used to laugh when people would complain that a bathroom stunk. This two situations seem similar.

I find it amusing when posters seem to think that no one has the right to comment or speculate on a situation, because they weren't there. Only two people were there in this situation. So only they get to talk about it? You can't be serious.

And the comment that no one knows what occurred because only two people were there. I call BS to that. The prosecution and defense attorneys weren't there, but they are commenting. People can read what the parties said or wrote, or the attorneys said they said or write, and make assessments and judgments. Also, there often is considerable information "out there", some of which is good information. To posters who say that no one on the board knows what happened (in a particular situation), so no one should talk about it, I say "speak for yourself". Just because you don't know what happened, doesn't mean someone else doesn't have good or credible information.

So it's OK for people who never met JJ to post on a public forum that he is a rapist, jerk, and womanizer or for people who never met Jane Doe to call her a slut, liar, and mental case?? I'm sure thheir lives are miserable enough right now as it is and I'm sure both are facing a great deal of public scrutiny right now.

Have no problem with discussion on the case, but attacking the character of these two people on a public forum under an annonymous name, without any idea of who they are or what happended, is chickenshit.

 

[argh!]

Jeez, this is the internet. People discuss, surmise, speculate, analyze, guess, etc. I suppose everyone is welcome to suggest how other posters should, and shouldn't, post, but I don't think it will do much good. I used to laugh when people would complain that a bathroom stunk. This two situations seem similar.

I find it amusing when posters seem to think that no one has the right to comment or speculate on a situation, because they weren't there. Only two people were there in this situation. So only they get to talk about it? You can't be serious.

And the comment that no one knows what occurred because only two people were there. I call BS to that. The prosecution and defense attorneys weren't there, but they are commenting. People can read what the parties said or wrote, or the attorneys said they said or write, and make assessments and judgments. Also, there often is considerable information "out there", some of which is good information. To posters who say that no one on the board knows what happened (in a particular situation), so no one should talk about it, I say "speak for yourself". Just because you don't know what happened, doesn't mean someone else doesn't have good or credible information.

So it's OK for people who never met JJ to post on a public forum that he is a rapist, jerk, and womanizer or for people who never met Jane Doe to call her a slut, liar, and mental case?? I'm sure thheir lives are miserable enough right now as it is and I'm sure both are facing a great deal of public scrutiny right now.

Have no problem with discussion on the case, but attacking the character of these two people on a public forum under an annonymous name, without any idea of who they are or what happended, is chickenshit.

quoted twice for good measure.

 

[Bear Axed]

Missoulian 8/21/2012

An attorney for a former University of Montana quarterback accused of rape says that if the state doesn’t immediately produce voluminous records – including the alleged victim’s medical and school records dating to when she was 5 years old – the case against Jordan Johnson should be dismissed.

David Paoli filed the motion Monday in Missoula County District Court. Johnson is charged with sexual intercourse without consent in connection with an alleged Feb. 4 assault at a fellow UM student’s home. He pleaded not guilty to that charge earlier this month.

Paoli said that neither Assistant Chief Deputy County Attorney Suzy Boylan nor an assistant returned calls he left them on Friday about discovery in the case that he requested on Aug. 9.

That information includes transcripts and videos of police interviews with several people, the medical and school records, contact information for every person who was with the alleged victim before, during and after the UM Forester’s Ball on Feb. 3, and all text messages between the alleged victim and witnesses, Paoli wrote.

He and co-defense counsel Kirsten Pabst also seek to interview the alleged victim as soon as possible, he wrote. Until starting a private law practice this spring, Pabst was the chief deputy Missoula County attorney.

“Not only is the state jeopardizing Johnson’s defense by failing to produce discovery, but the state is jeopardizing this court’s deadlines,” Paoli wrote. “…Further, if the state does not immediately produce all discovery materials, Johnson requests that the charges against him be dismissed based on the disadvantage that has been created by the state’s failure to produce the requested discovery.”

At Johnson’s arraignment earlier this month, Boylan expressed concern about her ability to sift through 1,000 pages of text messages in the case, many of which will need to be redacted, in time for court deadlines in the case.

 

[PTGrizzly]

In the end no one's opinions count here. If it goes to trial just 12 people's opinions count....and just need to create doubt in one of them. Nothing else matters in regard to guilty or not guilty.

In the very end, nothing matters because everyone is dead.

Lulz. You're entertaining me way more than normal. Please keep on posting like this.

 

[Sportin' Life]

PR: what's up with the prosecution not handing over the evidence to defense and has the prosecutor missed deadlines set by the judge? Seems like they are wanting the judge to dismiss the case for them to take some heat off their office. Then they can always "claim" it was just the judge being unreasonable.

No judge is going to dismiss on grounds of discovery. They admit that the records are voluminous and then give 7 working days before filing a motion? That dog isn't going to hunt.

 

[Sportin' Life]

Jeez, this is the internet. People discuss, surmise, speculate, analyze, guess, etc. I suppose everyone is welcome to suggest how other posters should, and shouldn't, post, but I don't think it will do much good. I used to laugh when people would complain that a bathroom stunk. This two situations seem similar.

I find it amusing when posters seem to think that no one has the right to comment or speculate on a situation, because they weren't there. Only two people were there in this situation. So only they get to talk about it? You can't be serious.

And the comment that no one knows what occurred because only two people were there. I call BS to that. The prosecution and defense attorneys weren't there, but they are commenting. People can read what the parties said or wrote, or the attorneys said they said or write, and make assessments and judgments. Also, there often is considerable information "out there", some of which is good information. To posters who say that no one on the board knows what happened (in a particular situation), so no one should talk about it, I say "speak for yourself". Just because you don't know what happened, doesn't mean someone else doesn't have good or credible information.

So it's OK for people who never met JJ to post on a public forum that he is a rapist, jerk, and womanizer or for people who never met Jane Doe to call her a slut, liar, and mental case?? I'm sure thheir lives are miserable enough right now as it is and I'm sure both are facing a great deal of public scrutiny right now.

Have no problem with discussion on the case, but attacking the character of these two people on a public forum under an annonymous name, without any idea of who they are or what happended, is chickenshit.

quoted twice for good measure.

 

[Growler1]

Missoulian 8/21/2012

An attorney for a former University of Montana quarterback accused of rape says that if the state doesn’t immediately produce voluminous records – including the alleged victim’s medical and school records dating to when she was 5 years old – the case against Jordan Johnson should be dismissed.

David Paoli filed the motion Monday in Missoula County District Court. Johnson is charged with sexual intercourse without consent in connection with an alleged Feb. 4 assault at a fellow UM student’s home. He pleaded not guilty to that charge earlier this month.

Paoli said that neither Assistant Chief Deputy County Attorney Suzy Boylan nor an assistant returned calls he left them on Friday about discovery in the case that he requested on Aug. 9.

That information includes transcripts and videos of police interviews with several people, the medical and school records, contact information for every person who was with the alleged victim before, during and after the UM Forester’s Ball on Feb. 3, and all text messages between the alleged victim and witnesses, Paoli wrote.

He and co-defense counsel Kirsten Pabst also seek to interview the alleged victim as soon as possible, he wrote. Until starting a private law practice this spring, Pabst was the chief deputy Missoula County attorney.

“Not only is the state jeopardizing Johnson’s defense by failing to produce discovery, but the state is jeopardizing this court’s deadlines,” Paoli wrote. “…Further, if the state does not immediately produce all discovery materials, Johnson requests that the charges against him be dismissed based on the disadvantage that has been created by the state’s failure to produce the requested discovery.”

At Johnson’s arraignment earlier this month, Boylan expressed concern about her ability to sift through 1,000 pages of text messages in the case, many of which will need to be redacted, in time for court deadlines in the case.

I love sexual intercourse without consent. Nothing better than taking it the way you want it, pounding your chest, and moving on down the line.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

At Johnson’s arraignment earlier this month, Boylan expressed concern about her ability to sift through 1,000 pages of text messages in the case, many of which will need to be redacted, in time for court deadlines in the case.

BWHAHAHAHAHA! This has to be a misprint omitting some zeroes, right? How long has she had to review and redact 1,000 pages?

 

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