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[mootrack]

The nation crumbles under Obama. Yes, you are correct. Yes he did indeed extend the Afgan war that he promised to end. He is only the worst president in the history of the country, substantially passing both Andrew Johnson and Jimmy Carter.

Um, Obama never said he would end the Afghan war during his campaign. Quite the opposite. He (unfortunately) campaigned on expanding it. It was Iraq he said he would end (and did).

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Growler, according to Snopes, the article never appeared in the Washington Post:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/affirmative.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Don't believe those e-mails.

 

[NorthEndZoneDan]

Growler, according to Snopes, the article never appeared in the Washington Post:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/affirmative.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Don't believe those e-mails.

thats fu****ng hilarious! :clap: :clap:

 

[Silvertip]

first quarter this year, stocks turned in their biggest gain in 14 years. the market is up 60% since obama took office. last month the economy added 227,000 jobs--versus the 700,000 that were lost the month bush left office. don't be a dummy sunny, follow the money!

general motors is alive, bin laden is dead. we're finally out of iraq--no more fibs and ad libs, blam blam and flim flam but no plan man, no plan. after months of publicly televised lies, distortions and slanders on obama's record and person, he still wins against the robotic flip-flopper who's signed off on both sides of a paycheck and both sides of every issue you can name. oh, and obama's campaign headquarters in chicago features a life-size cutout of him wearing a university of montana jersey. my man!

You've conveniently bypassed the fact that jobs paid for by the stimulus grab came (1) at a cost of more than $600,000 each (2) that many of the dubious quarter million gigs were (surprise!) government and seasonal, and (3) Dept of Labor figures no longer include the thousands of people who have given up looking for a job and are no longer in the tally. As for GM, that was breast-fed TARP money - meaning yours and mine. I'll take Ford thank you. As for the market, many undervalued stocks have attracted investors playing on the come raising their perceived value. And how are your savings doing with the artificially created bottom-feeder interest rates? ...BTW, don't hang your B.O. hat on the prez sporting a UM sweatshirt. He has a full warehouse with a varied collection and he wouldn't think twice about donning a University of Chihuahua model if he thought it would attract more potential illegal immigrant voters (sorry, undocumented aliens) from south of the Rio Grande. If a Socialist European clone is your vision for the U.S. then you've picked the right man.

 

[citygriz]

first quarter this year, stocks turned in their biggest gain in 14 years. the market is up 60% since obama took office. last month the economy added 227,000 jobs--versus the 700,000 that were lost the month bush left office. don't be a dummy sunny, follow the money!

general motors is alive, bin laden is dead. we're finally out of iraq--no more fibs and ad libs, blam blam and flim flam but no plan man, no plan. after months of publicly televised lies, distortions and slanders on obama's record and person, he still wins against the robotic flip-flopper who's signed off on both sides of a paycheck and both sides of every issue you can name. oh, and obama's campaign headquarters in chicago features a life-size cutout of him wearing a university of montana jersey. my man!

You've conveniently bypassed the fact that jobs paid for by the stimulus grab came (1) at a cost of more than $600,000 each (2) that many of the dubious quarter million gigs were (surprise!) government and seasonal, and (3) Dept of Labor figures no longer include the thousands of people who have given up looking for a job and are no longer in the tally. As for GM, that was breast-fed TARP money - meaning yours and mine. I'll take Ford thank you. As for the market, many undervalued stocks have attracted investors playing on the come raising their perceived value. And how are your savings doing with the artificially created bottom-feeder interest rates? ...BTW, don't hang your B.O. hat on the prez sporting a UM sweatshirt. He has a full warehouse with a varied collection and he wouldn't think twice about donning a University of Chihuahua model if he thought it would attract more potential illegal immigrant voters (sorry, undocumented aliens) from south of the Rio Grande. If a Socialist European clone is your vision for the U.S. then you've picked the right man.

yo, tip. (not of the o'neill persuasion i would guess.) couple points.
--when obama took over, this economy was like dick cheney's heart...no pulse. on life support. this was not your typical business-cycle recession; this was the brink of a potential depression. george bush left office in disgrace (note: no republican is seeking his endorsement, and the republicon party was forced to completely re-brand itself as the "tea party.") yet as a candidate for the worst president ever, bush would face a tough challenge from herbert hoover, who steadfastly tried to balance the budget in the real great depression.
--deficit? nobody likes it, not even dems. but note: when ronald reagen took office, the national debt was 30% of g.n.p; when george bush left office, that percentage had risen to 80%. (remember cheney's heartfelt comment: reagen proved deficits don't matter!) the only relief we had was from bill clinton, who balanced the budget and lowered the deficit. where've you neo-hooverties been since 1980? it took you 30 years to get fiscal religion? at that, the deficit is nowhere near its all-time high as a percentage of g.n.p. if we can get this economy turned around, we have time to bring the deficit down.
--interest rate near zero? that's what you do in a bad economy; it stimulates businesses, which drive the jobs. if you've still got your money in a bank account...well, you deserve what you get. since obama's been president, i've been able to recoup most of my stock losses from the bush recession.
--socialist clone? that's funny. you probably hate obamacare; many americans do. until they're asked about its specific provisions: no exclusion for pre-existing conditions; kids can stay on their parent's policy; the medicare donut-hole is closed. confronted with the actual provisions in the affordable health care act, even devout-believing republicans become european socialists.
ah, jeez. i don't come here to spout politics. please note: i've never started one of these political debates. i just have to step in now and douse the obama hatred with facts, historical perspective and common sense. there's nothing quite like the right-wing media-bubble.

 

[Silvertip]

first quarter this year, stocks turned in their biggest gain in 14 years. the market is up 60% since obama took office. last month the economy added 227,000 jobs--versus the 700,000 that were lost the month bush left office. don't be a dummy sunny, follow the money!

general motors is alive, bin laden is dead. we're finally out of iraq--no more fibs and ad libs, blam blam and flim flam but no plan man, no plan. after months of publicly televised lies, distortions and slanders on obama's record and person, he still wins against the robotic flip-flopper who's signed off on both sides of a paycheck and both sides of every issue you can name. oh, and obama's campaign headquarters in chicago features a life-size cutout of him wearing a university of montana jersey. my man!

You've conveniently bypassed the fact that jobs paid for by the stimulus grab came (1) at a cost of more than $600,000 each (2) that many of the dubious quarter million gigs were (surprise!) government and seasonal, and (3) Dept of Labor figures no longer include the thousands of people who have given up looking for a job and are no longer in the tally. As for GM, that was breast-fed TARP money - meaning yours and mine. I'll take Ford thank you. As for the market, many undervalued stocks have attracted investors playing on the come raising their perceived value. And how are your savings doing with the artificially created bottom-feeder interest rates? ...BTW, don't hang your B.O. hat on the prez sporting a UM sweatshirt. He has a full warehouse with a varied collection and he wouldn't think twice about donning a University of Chihuahua model if he thought it would attract more potential illegal immigrant voters (sorry, undocumented aliens) from south of the Rio Grande. If a Socialist European clone is your vision for the U.S. then you've picked the right man.

yo, tip. (not of the o'neill persuasion i would guess.) couple points.
--when obama took over, this economy was like dick cheney's heart...no pulse. on life support. this was not your typical business-cycle recession; this was the brink of a potential depression. george bush left office in disgrace (note: no republican is seeking his endorsement, and the republicon party was forced to completely re-brand itself as the "tea party.") yet as a candidate for the worst president ever, bush would face a tough challenge from herbert hoover, who steadfastly tried to balance the budget in the real great depression.
--deficit? nobody likes it, not even dems. but note: when ronald reagen took office, the national debt was 30% of g.n.p; when george bush left office, that percentage had risen to 80%. (remember cheney's heartfelt comment: reagen proved deficits don't matter!) the only relief we had was from bill clinton, who balanced the budget and lowered the deficit. where've you neo-hooverties been since 1980? it took you 30 years to get fiscal religion? at that, the deficit is nowhere near its all-time high as a percentage of g.n.p. if we can get this economy turned around, we have time to bring the deficit down.
--interest rate near zero? that's what you do in a bad economy; it stimulates businesses, which drive the jobs. if you've still got your money in a bank account...well, you deserve what you get. since obama's been president, i've been able to recoup most of my stock losses from the bush recession.
--socialist clone? that's funny. you probably hate obamacare; many americans do. until they're asked about its specific provisions: no exclusion for pre-existing conditions; kids can stay on their parent's policy; the medicare donut-hole is closed. confronted with the actual provisions in the affordable health care act, even devout-believing republicans become european socialists.
ah, jeez. i don't come here to spout politics. please note: i've never started one of these political debates. i just have to step in now and douse the obama hatred with facts, historical perspective and common sense. there's nothing quite like the right-wing media-bubble.

Nobody thinks of twenty-six year olds as "kids" except disciples of the socialist handbook. What a great country we'll have when generations of what should be ambitious producers are short-circuited into becoming a bunch of slothful dependent slugs who will be looking to the Feds for a lifetime of free meals -if their overburden parents don't kick them out first. Dependency is a drug that libs dispense like a first free crack hit...

Winston Churchhill said it best. "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"

 

[stubbins]

stubbins list of hates:

1 Kentucky basketball
2 SEC football
3 Obama
4 Talking about politics on an athletic message board
5 Green olives with the little red thing in it

 

[Potomac Griz]

Growler, according to Snopes, the article never appeared in the Washington Post:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/affirmative.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Don't believe those e-mails.

Wow... owned is not even close to a strong enough word to describe what we just witnessed here... Really curious to see how Stevie tries to weasel his way out of this one.

The only thing missing from Growler's post is: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW:

Should have known he was one of those people who believes everything he gets in his email, and then forwards it off to everyone he knows. :lol:

 

[citygriz]

first quarter this year, stocks turned in their biggest gain in 14 years. the market is up 60% since obama took office. last month the economy added 227,000 jobs--versus the 700,000 that were lost the month bush left office. don't be a dummy sunny, follow the money!

general motors is alive, bin laden is dead. we're finally out of iraq--no more fibs and ad libs, blam blam and flim flam but no plan man, no plan. after months of publicly televised lies, distortions and slanders on obama's record and person, he still wins against the robotic flip-flopper who's signed off on both sides of a paycheck and both sides of every issue you can name. oh, and obama's campaign headquarters in chicago features a life-size cutout of him wearing a university of montana jersey. my man!

You've conveniently bypassed the fact that jobs paid for by the stimulus grab came (1) at a cost of more than $600,000 each (2) that many of the dubious quarter million gigs were (surprise!) government and seasonal, and (3) Dept of Labor figures no longer include the thousands of people who have given up looking for a job and are no longer in the tally. As for GM, that was breast-fed TARP money - meaning yours and mine. I'll take Ford thank you. As for the market, many undervalued stocks have attracted investors playing on the come raising their perceived value. And how are your savings doing with the artificially created bottom-feeder interest rates? ...BTW, don't hang your B.O. hat on the prez sporting a UM sweatshirt. He has a full warehouse with a varied collection and he wouldn't think twice about donning a University of Chihuahua model if he thought it would attract more potential illegal immigrant voters (sorry, undocumented aliens) from south of the Rio Grande. If a Socialist European clone is your vision for the U.S. then you've picked the right man.

yo, tip. (not of the o'neill persuasion i would guess.) couple points.
--when obama took over, this economy was like dick cheney's heart...no pulse. on life support. this was not your typical business-cycle recession; this was the brink of a potential depression. george bush left office in disgrace (note: no republican is seeking his endorsement, and the republicon party was forced to completely re-brand itself as the "tea party.") yet as a candidate for the worst president ever, bush would face a tough challenge from herbert hoover, who steadfastly tried to balance the budget in the real great depression.
--deficit? nobody likes it, not even dems. but note: when ronald reagen took office, the national debt was 30% of g.n.p; when george bush left office, that percentage had risen to 80%. (remember cheney's heartfelt comment: reagen proved deficits don't matter!) the only relief we had was from bill clinton, who balanced the budget and lowered the deficit. where've you neo-hooverties been since 1980? it took you 30 years to get fiscal religion? at that, the deficit is nowhere near its all-time high as a percentage of g.n.p. if we can get this economy turned around, we have time to bring the deficit down.
--interest rate near zero? that's what you do in a bad economy; it stimulates businesses, which drive the jobs. if you've still got your money in a bank account...well, you deserve what you get. since obama's been president, i've been able to recoup most of my stock losses from the bush recession.
--socialist clone? that's funny. you probably hate obamacare; many americans do. until they're asked about its specific provisions: no exclusion for pre-existing conditions; kids can stay on their parent's policy; the medicare donut-hole is closed. confronted with the actual provisions in the affordable health care act, even devout-believing republicans become european socialists.
ah, jeez. i don't come here to spout politics. please note: i've never started one of these political debates. i just have to step in now and douse the obama hatred with facts, historical perspective and common sense. there's nothing quite like the right-wing media-bubble.

Nobody thinks of twenty-six year olds as "kids" except disciples of the socialist handbook. What a great country we'll have when generations of what should be ambitious producers are short-circuited into becoming a bunch of slothful dependent slugs who will be looking to the Feds for a lifetime of free meals -if their overburden parents don't kick them out first. Dependency is a drug that libs dispense like a first free crack hit...

Winston Churchhill said it best. "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"

was winston a sports fan? he would have hated and envied the n.f.l. and the n.b.a. both socialist organizations, both ultra-successful.

 

[citygriz]

stubbins list of hates:

1 Kentucky basketball
2 SEC football
3 Obama
4 Talking about politics on an athletic message board
5 Green olives with the little red thing in it

reads like a recipe. for boredom.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

All I will say is that Obama and Bush Jr's policies are very similar and both have proven to be poor presidents. Unfortunatly, it looks like we will have a poor president the next 5 years as well (regardless of who wins in 2012). Where was all that "Change" that Obama promised? Lucky for him he'll be running against a flip-flopper or a homophobe.

 

[Silvertip]

All I will say is that Obama and Bush Jr's policies are very similar and both have proven to be poor presidents. Unfortunatly, it looks like we will have a poor president the next 5 years as well (regardless of who wins in 2012). Where was all that "Change" that Obama promised? Lucky for him he'll be running against a flip-flopper or a homophobe.

America would survive the worst GOP candidate you can possibly imagine. You can't say the same for the incumbent whose regime is dedicated to continuing the attack on our Constitution and the rights of individuals to prosper in a free society with minimal government intervention.

 

[mtgrizrule]

One of the few basketball threads ruined by politics. Please move or lock this.

 

[Silvertip]

Basketball vs. America's Future...probably just areflectio

One of the few basketball threads ruined by politics. Please move or lock this.

America's Future vs. a basketball postmortem...Guess it reflects our respective priorities. You being a self-annointed thread cop can't find one more to your pristine standards?

 

[BelierPeaux]

Basketball vs. America's Future...probably just areflectio

One of the few basketball threads ruined by politics. Please move or lock this.

America's Future vs. a basketball postmortem...Guess it reflects our respective priorities. You being a self-annointed thread cop can't find one more to your pristine standards?

I second MTGR's notion.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

America would survive the worst GOP candidate you can possibly imagine. You can't say the same for the incumbent whose regime is dedicated to continuing the attack on our Constitution and the rights of individuals to prosper in a free society with minimal government intervention.

LMFAO! I was completely wrong when I said you didn't have a sense of humor!

 

[Silvertip]

Bless you my son. Confession feeds the soul.

 

[Growler1]

All I will say is that Obama and Bush Jr's policies are very similar and both have proven to be poor presidents. Unfortunatly, it looks like we will have a poor president the next 5 years as well (regardless of who wins in 2012). Where was all that "Change" that Obama promised? Lucky for him he'll be running against a flip-flopper or a homophobe.

I thought Bush Dub-ya was a horrible president. But, Obama is the WORST PRESIDENT in the history of America. Period! I am not a Republican, or a Democrat, rather I am an independent. I have voted for both Bill Clinton, and Ronald Reagan. But, I will tell you unequivocally that ANYONE will be a better president that Obama.

You voted for Obama the first time to prove you were not a racist. Now, vote for the other guy this time to prove you are not an idiot!

 

[GrizWhiz]

All I will say is that Obama and Bush Jr's policies are very similar and both have proven to be poor presidents. Unfortunatly, it looks like we will have a poor president the next 5 years as well (regardless of who wins in 2012). Where was all that "Change" that Obama promised? Lucky for him he'll be running against a flip-flopper or a homophobe.

I thought Bush Dub-ya was a horrible president. But, Obama is the WORST PRESIDENT in the history of America. Period! I am not a Republican, or a Democrat, rather I am an independent. I have voted for both Bill Clinton, and Ronald Reagan. But, I will tell you unequivocally that ANYONE will be a better president that Obama.

You voted for Obama the first time to prove you were not a racist. Now, vote for the other guy this time to prove you are not an idiot!

And the nation,once again, gets a little weaker! :lol:

 

[GrizLA]

:lol: :thumb:

All I will say is that Obama and Bush Jr's policies are very similar and both have proven to be poor presidents. Unfortunatly, it looks like we will have a poor president the next 5 years as well (regardless of who wins in 2012). Where was all that "Change" that Obama promised? Lucky for him he'll be running against a flip-flopper or a homophobe.

I thought Bush Dub-ya was a horrible president. But, Obama is the WORST PRESIDENT in the history of America. Period! I am not a Republican, or a Democrat, rather I am an independent. I have voted for both Bill Clinton, and Ronald Reagan. But, I will tell you unequivocally that ANYONE will be a better president that Obama.

You voted for Obama the first time to prove you were not a racist. Now, vote for the other guy this time to prove you are not an idiot!

And the nation,once again, gets a little weaker! :lol: